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There is no first class on those trains. Though you are correct on a number of different trains with first class a yellow coupler does indicate the location of first class.
395s don't have a First Class.
(GatwickDepress
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Possibly to denote which end of the train the disabled facilities/access are? I presume the opposite end lacks them.
Manchester77
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Yep. Those.
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cyclebytrain
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I saw one recently with Orange around the appropriate door too.
Nym
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Something that would be needed in Japan and very appropriate, but are absolutely useless in the UK?
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They look likes part of the crash structure to me.
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The entire train is pretty much first class and quite nice at that. Remember services do feature a 'premium' fare.
I don't think the interior is anything special. It's only a premium fare if you buy a ticket between certain locations. For a journey I do regularly, it is cheaper to use the Highspeed service than to not.
I agree. There's nothing special about the 395s interior - most of that fake steel (cheap plastic that vibrates alot) irritates me! If the SETs are to have a similar interior and ride quality then they really will be a climb down compared to quality of a Mk3.
Nym
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Think you've just hit the nail on the head there as to the unpopularity of the Hitachi SET (Not nessesearally the IEP, but the train that will result from it.)
I'm Glad i'm not the only one to notice and say that then. They just don't impress me at all, the ride still isn't that perfect - especially in the tunnels, the interior feels cheap with the steel effect plastic panels - ones covering the PA screens are the worst for vibration, and rather the lighting seems rather dingy and shadowy in tunnels. Certainly not as good as the quality from Siemens, Alstom and to an extent dare i even say Bombardier.
If... if i was to suggest one thing to Hitachi, that is to do a similar idea that Siemens took on board when producing the Desiros. Take a Mk3 back top your factory, see what makes the Mk3 sooo good, and try to build on top of that. Not, praise the Mk3 for 5 seconds, and then say how good the japanese technology is, because at the end of the day, this isn't japan.
And if your wondering what the Siemens connection is, back when Siemens were awarded the contract to build the SWT Desiros, Siemens took a reliable every day old 4 VEP from Wimbledon - took it to it's Wildenrath test centre for assessment, fitted calibration equipment to it to see essentially what and how it was so reliable. Took the data resulting from those tests, learned and built upon this with the Desiros. Hence another part of the VEPs test life was to calibrate the 750V DC equipment installed by Siemens to test it out for the Desiros. Now that is clever forward thinking, and the result is a reliable quality product!
starrymarkb
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Probably the Override Protection - a set of ribs designed to prevent stock climbing over in an accident. I remember seeing a test around 1990 where BR Research was experimenting with Crash Protection Methods including Crumple Zones and the Override Ribs (I don't know their proper name)
Most Units that work in multiple since the Networkers have had them fitted.
Desiros show them well as Siemens didn't put a Fibreglass cover over the top.
Nym
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They are equally uncovered on the S8 and S7 stock...
And yes, I do tend to have a better feel of quality from the Seimens products I regularly use compaired with Hitachi, with Bombardier floating around in the middle (I don't like Southern or Southeastern's seating).
Especially coming back from the Olympics for example, from a Class 395, to a Class 350, the class 315, C Stock and 350 all felt much better built than the Class 395.
Similarly, but proberbly for another thread, the 2009TS doesn't feel as well built as the 1967/1972Mk1/1972Mk2 stock...
And yes, I do tend to have a better feel of quality from the Seimens products I regularly use compaired with Hitachi, with Bombardier floating around in the middle (I don't like Southern or Southeastern's seating).
Especially coming back from the Olympics for example, from a Class 395, to a Class 350, the class 315, C Stock and 350 all felt much better built than the Class 395.
Similarly, but proberbly for another thread, the 2009TS doesn't feel as well built as the 1967/1972Mk1/1972Mk2 stock...
starrymarkb
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I remember seeing pictures of the VEP parked with brand new ICE3 sets at Wildenwrath. It looked very out of place
I agree about the 395's - one of the last times I went on one the whole thing shook very violently at speed through the tunnels...it was horrifically uncomfortable!
Btw, which is the override protection on the Desiro above?
Btw, which is the override protection on the Desiro above?
starrymarkb
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The ribbed blocks either side of the coupler
bronzeonion
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The opposite I think, they are probably anti climbers.
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