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Class 395 at Southampton Docks

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If I remember correctly was Southampton the port where 395s were delivered? If so if sort of makes sense on it going back to Japan
 
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Can anyone advise if this is still there/moved to Eastleigh/on its merry way to Japan?
Just interested in who was right/wrong/wibbling….
 

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According to various Facebook groups, it is definitely not heading for Japan. Consensus seems to be Eastleigh (eventually)
 

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I did think Japan was unlikely but crazier things have happened hah!
 

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I did think Japan was unlikely but crazier things have happened hah!
Well, I can confirm it is still in the docks as I drove past it whilst working down there last week. I’m sure Eastleigh will take it when Hitachi are ready for it.
 

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I suppose the main chassis might be bent or something. Thinking of it from a car point of view.
 

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I guess it depends on the damage, if and how it is bent, or any crash absorbing zigzag-zag style metal deformed or crumpled.

Sometimes it is easier to fabricate brand new body shells using original jigs than trying to straighten crumpled metal, or try and splice in multiple replacements.

It doesn't take any more work to transfer components across, if they all need to be removed to do the work anyway, before being reinstalled.
 

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Apologies to spoil anyone's fun but I'm now in a position to say anyone expecting this to go to Japan will be very disappointed, nor was that ever the plan.

Next week is likely (subject to the usual caveats) for these to move to Eastleigh by rail. If I remember / have time I will provide gen as and when, once I'm in a position to. I understand there will of course be plenty of interest in this move, but there are lots of people involved behind the scenes.

Eastleigh Works is impossible for many rail vehicles to arrive by road as previously mentioned, so I believe Sohthampton Docks was seen as an ideal handover point, where some initial checks and remedial work could be carried out before moving the fairly short distance by rail for repair.
 

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Apologies to spoil anyone's fun but I'm now in a position to say anyone expecting this to go to Japan will be very disappointed, nor was that ever the plan.

Next week is likely (subject to the usual caveats) for these to move to Eastleigh by rail. If I remember / have time I will provide gen as and when, once I'm in a position to. I understand there will of course be plenty of interest in this move, but there are lots of people involved behind the scenes.

Eastleigh Works is impossible for many rail vehicles to arrive by road as previously mentioned, so I believe Sohthampton Docks was seen as an ideal handover point, where some initial checks and remedial work could be carried out before moving the fairly short distance by rail for repair.
It will be very interesting to see how this is acheived, is there something to couple to at the trailer end of the two cars ? From the photo earlier in this thread, the cab end couplings appear to be pretty well demolished so there is nothing to couple to after a run-round at Eastleigh station/yard, unless there are special instructions to allow a propelling movement (which is rather unlikely).
 

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It will be very interesting to see how this is acheived, is there something to couple to at the trailer end of the two cars ? From the photo earlier in this thread, the cab end couplings appear to be pretty well demolished so there is nothing to couple to after a run-round at Eastleigh station/yard, unless there are special instructions to allow a propelling movement (which is rather unlikely).
Rolling stock can be and has been propelled into Eastleigh Works from Platform 3 so that shouldn’t be too much of an issue. I didn’t have the opportunity to look close up at the cab end last week though, I only went past it to and from site and unsurprisingly ABP aren’t particularly keen on people wandering around the docks. It is however with the cab end facing southwards so the loco and or barrier can couple to the passenger end for the drag up to Eastleigh.
 

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It will be very interesting to see how this is acheived, is there something to couple to at the trailer end of the two cars ? From the photo earlier in this thread, the cab end couplings appear to be pretty well demolished so there is nothing to couple to after a run-round at Eastleigh station/yard, unless there are special instructions to allow a propelling movement (which is rather unlikely).

A very good question, and yes there was substantial damage to the coupler. I believe this would have been part of the initial works carried out at the Docks to allow movement by rail.

No propelling movements will be required into Eastleigh either, all accounted for in the plan ;)
 

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Apologies to spoil anyone's fun but I'm now in a position to say anyone expecting this to go to Japan will be very disappointed, nor was that ever the plan.

Next week is likely (subject to the usual caveats) for these to move to Eastleigh by rail. If I remember / have time I will provide gen as and when, once I'm in a position to. I understand there will of course be plenty of interest in this move, but there are lots of people involved behind the scenes.

Eastleigh Works is impossible for many rail vehicles to arrive by road as previously mentioned, so I believe Sohthampton Docks was seen as an ideal handover point, where some initial checks and remedial work could be carried out before moving the fairly short distance by rail for repair.
I don't think anyone wanted the unit to go to Japan, it was more puzzlement why it was sat gathering dust in the docks for so long. Especially as 395s are in such high demand.
 

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I don't think anyone wanted the unit to go to Japan, it was more puzzlement why it was sat gathering dust in the docks for so long. Especially as 395s are in such high demand.
Many, usually reliable sources mentioned Japan was its destination.

But glad to hear it will finally reach its repair destination next week.
 

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Thursday and Friday this week are the ones to look out for, schedules should appear soon.

5O27 on Thursday into the Docks, followed by 7Q28 on Friday for the 'proper' move.

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7Q28 schedule in for Friday.
 
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RailAdventure are scheduled to work 1030 7Q28 Southampton Eastern Docks to Eastleigh Arlington on Friday, possibly for 395008?

It seems a rather long move as the locos will start from Worksop Down Yard tomorrow then via Burton OT Wetmore Sidings to collect barriers and Wembley Receptions arriving Southampton on Thursday


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There's an unrelated move on Friday thats happening elsewhere on the Southern that I've combined (saves fuel etc) hence the ex Worksop move as well.

Result is 5A26 from Burton will be with 4x Class 20 and 2 barrier vehicles, of which only two of them (and barriers) will work 5O27 to Southampton.
 

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Pictures from Rail Adventure, 395008 is almost finally at the Hitachi roads at Eastleigh works.

 

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A You Tube video of the locos and barrier wagons at Canute Road, and later with the two 395 vehicles passing St Denys on way to Eastleigh

 

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A You Tube video of the locos and barrier wagons at Canute Road, and later with the two 395 vehicles passing St Denys on way to Eastleigh

And the stupid idiot on his eScooter dashing in front of the 20 just as it reaches the crossing.
Image below shows same.
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And the stupid idiot on his eScooter dashing in front of the 20 just as it reaches the crossing.
Image below shows same.
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Not unusual there. I worked that crossing for several years and never ceased to be amazed at the stupidity of Homo sapiens! Another bit of fun was the parking of cars in front of the gates.
When the track across the road was relaid around 10 years ago the box junction markings weren't repainted, which doesn't help, although getting BTP interested was always a mission.
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