Class 378 drag to Widnes?

[SEtrains]

I’ve just seen this on RTT and could this possibly be a class 378 drag or something else?

Realtime Trains | 5Q36 1046 New Cross Gate C.S.D to Widnes Transport Tech | 04/01/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Q36 1046 departure from New Cross Gate C.S.D to Widnes Transport Tech on 04/01/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[Class15]

I don’t think New Cross Gate depot is used for anything else. We’ll wait and see but I can’t think of any other purpose, assuming it runs of course.

 

[Covshire1]

Reportedly a cl37 + 5 car cl378...

 

[SEtrains]

Thanks for the info

 

[childwallblues]

A very interesting move.

 

[Snow1964]

Unusual move, and possibly a dual voltage unit being dragged for a completely electrified journey (although many of those operating East London line are third rail only)

 

[DanNCL]

Unusual move, and possibly a dual voltage unit being dragged for a completely electrified journey.

Presumably class 37s are easier to find that drivers with appropriate traction knowledge

Isn’t it mostly the third rail only 378/1s at New Cross Gate?

 

[Jturner98]

Isn’t it mostly the third rail only 378/1s at New Cross Gate?

Nope 378/2 are maintained there also.

 

[Class15]

Isn’t it mostly the third rail only 378/1s at New Cross Gate?

Although the /2s can be found at Willesden the entire class is based at New Cross Gate.

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Would a more direct route be via the East London line (ELL) and then the stock transfer line at Highbury? Or are locos not allowed onto the ELL? Also I’m aware the stock transfer line is blocked by a wooden block but could this be easily lifted or is it more-or-less permanently out of use?

 

[Jturner98]

Although the /2s can be found at Willesden the entire class is based at New Cross Gate.

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Would a more direct route be via the East London line (ELL) and then the stock transfer line at Highbury? Or are locos not allowed onto the ELL? Also I’m aware the stock transfer line is blocked by a wooden block but could this be easily lifted or is it more-or-less permanently out of use?

Class 73s made it down the ELL last year

Credit to the video owner (not mine)

 

[greatkingrat]

You wouldn't get a path through the ELL core in the middle of the day.

 

[Class15]

Class 73s made it down the ELL last year

Credit to the video owner (not mine)

Very interesting. Seems that runs every 4 weeks. So locos are allowed.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

Class 73s made it down the ELL last year

Credit to the video owner (not mine)

Whats with the ladder on the front of the loco?

 

[Class15]

Whats with the ladder on the front of the loco?

It says in the video description, it’s for evacuation purposes in the Thames Tunnel.

 

[warwickshire]

However does anyone kindly know why a 378 is going to Alstom Widnes for work?.

Does it have a contract for refurbishment of 378s for Arriva rail London, ie are they all being refurbished there, or is it something else, or is it a one off move??

Thank you
Warwickshire.

 

[Kite159]

Very interesting. Seems that runs every 4 weeks. So locos are allowed.

Although no doubt those 73s will be running on the 3rd rail, rather than on diesel.

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As for the 378 heading to Widnes, maybe a restart of the refurbishment program?

 

[1nvicible]

All change at Widnes now 458 has finished. 180 arrived before Xmas and now a 378. Probably paint and / or internal refresh.

 

[Class15]

37611 hauling 378225 AIUI.

 

[800001]

37611 hauling 378225 AIUI.

Confirmed as 378225.

 

[Class15]

For anyone interested here are some pictures at Shepherds Bush

(Pictures show 37611 leading 378225 past Shepherds Bush station)

 

[SEtrains]

Here are my images.

 

[Jturner98]

Still got the tread plates on it too by the looks of it.

 

[800001]

Does anyone know the reason for the 378 move to Widnes today?

 

[Class15]

Does anyone know the reason for the 378 move to Widnes today?

I understand it will come back in a different livery. Don’t know if anything else is going to happen.

 

[CR165022]

Did the other repainted 378s go to Widnes? Or were they done somewhere else?

 

[SEtrains]

Did the other repainted 378s go to Widnes? Or were they done somewhere else?

They were done somewhere else. I’m not sure where though unfortunately.

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However does anyone kindly know why a 378 is going to Alstom Widnes for work?.

Does it have a contract for refurbishment of 378s for Arriva rail London, ie are they all being refurbished there, or is it something else, or is it a one off move??

Thank you
Warwickshire

Nearly all of the fleet should be going to Widnes for an interior refresh and paint job.

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I understand it will come back in a different livery. Don’t know if anything else is going to happen.

New seats are to be fitted as well

 

[JRHurst]

The first to be refreshed, 378135 was done at Ilford.

 

[Electrojuniper]

All previous units were completed at ilford. The units will be going there for corrosion, repainting outstanding repairs and gangway overhaul. all seats are completed. other discussions are ongoing in regard to scope.

 

[SEtrains]

Any idea when the next drag will take place?

 

[Goldfish62]

New seats are to be fitted as well

If you mean new seat moquette most if not all have already been done.