Class 376 to London Overground?

[A60stock]

I've seen on a number of threads speculating regarding the 376s on Southeastern and a good possibility they may be replaced alongside the networkers well before their intended life span.

This got me thinking, why not transfer these to london overground? They are 5 cars already and a very similar train entirely. All that would be needed is the change in seating arrangement and the addition of aircon (and anything else which can be carried out during a refurb). I appreciate they dont have gangways so cannot operate on the East London Line, but can operate on all other non Anglia lines?

I also appreciate they are not walkthrough but I am sure this wouldn't be a massive loss.

Thoughts?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Honestly I’d think it easier to just buy more 710s for Stratford and Willesden services

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I had mooted this elsewhere, in previous threads by using the carriages to lengthen to 6 cars; however, I think the core section of the ELL can only take 5 cars

The 376's are becoming a bit of an isolated class now in SE land and I wonder if they will be all eventually ousted by SWR 707s

They do have through inter-unit gangways BTW

 

[ComUtoR]

I had mooted this elsewhere, in previous threads by using the carriages to lengthen to 6 cars; however, I think the core section of the ELL can only take 5 cars

The 376's are becoming a bit of an isolated class now in SE land and I wonder if they will be all eventually ousted by SWR 707s

They do have through inter-unit gangways BTW

Apologies but what does "inter-unit gangways" mean ?

Neither 376s or 707s have a gangway between units

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Apologies but what does "inter-unit gangways" mean ?

Neither 376s or 707s have a gangway between units

I assume it is some pernickerty comment about how there are gangways between coaches, but it is obvious that the OP is refering to the lack of end gangways.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Yes sorry, I meant gangways within set but I thought you'd know what I mean...

 

[JonathanH]

This got me thinking, why not transfer these to london overground?

London Overground already has 710274-710279 due to enter service which provide the additional capacity they needed prior to March 2020. They have no need of 376s as well.

Moreover, the only place where DC only units can be used is on the East London Line and, as someone points out above, the 376s don't have end-on emergency egress.

I doubt the intermediate cars could even be put in 378s due to incompatible gangways.

 

[D365]

I doubt the intermediate cars could even be put in 378s due to incompatible gangways.

They’re completely different specifications. Gangways are the least of your worries.

 

[JonathanH]

They’re completely different specifications. Gangways are the least of your worries.

To be fair, I wasn't advocating it in any way. We can probably agree that London Overground has absolutely no use for 376s, either directly or "as spare parts" in any sensible scenario.

 

[221101 Voyager]

To be fair, I wasn't advocating it in any way. We can probably agree that London Overground has absolutely no use for 376s, either directly or "as spare parts" in any sensible scenario.

Just had a thought could southern use 376s to replace 313s?

 

[JonathanH]

Just had a thought could southern use 376s to replace 313s?

That isn't a new thought - not directly is the answer - and it would be off topic for this thread which is rather tightly defined and has no as its answer. There are plenty of threads which envisage 376s going to Southern, either as battery units for the Uckfield line which doesn't appear to be happening or displacing 377s, which also doesn't appear to be happening. To complete the picture, you will recall from other threads that Southern's 455s need to be replaced by 4-car trains because of platform lengths.

 

[Kite159]

More chance of them heading to Southern to allow 377s to replace some 455s/313s than heading to London Overground and even that is a very low chance.

They are a small class, 5 coaches with no loos and a 75mph top speed, maybe if they had loos & a higher top speed they could have a new interior (with AC fitted) and used for outer suburban routes (ie Tunbridge Wells)

 

[D365]

To be fair, I wasn't advocating it in any way. We can probably agree that London Overground has absolutely no use for 376s, either directly or "as spare parts" in any sensible scenario.

Sorry, I wasn’t aiming at you specifically! Just that there’s absolutely no reason for them to end up at LO.