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221101 Voyager said:
What's the status of 405, 408, 430, 431, 439, 443, 444 & 445 please?

I have all the above 321s noted as in Warm Storage.



Also, what's going on with 322482 as it never seems to be out whenever I go. :rolleyes:


Thanks. :D
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have 408/431/439/443/444 and 445 is store at Gascoigne wood sidings

321430 was in use on 24/05/2021

321405 not sure off i'm afraid
 
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Islineclear3_1 said:
Have non-PRM Class 321's been given official dispensation to continue in service and if so, do we know roughly how long, e.g. end 2021?

Obviously this depends upon further Class 720 introduction...
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321337 on rear of 1448 Liverpool street to Braintree today
coupled to an refurbished 321/3
 
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Class 170101 said:
This is the standard requirement now otherwise the service will be cancelled.
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Thanks. I also believe the pis system at the station has to say there are a reduced accesssble toilet facilities when a non prm is coupled to a compliant unit
 
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306024 said:
Yes should have mentioned that, it seems Manningtree bay is more by luck than judgement though.
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Of allied interest, 4-car 755s used over Harwich Town branch this week, early on Tues (406) then all day Weds & Thursday (405) to release PRM-321. And, yes, they do fit the bay platform at Manningtree.
 
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47584Suffolk said:
Of allied interest, 4-car 755s used over Harwich Town branch this week, early on Tues (406) then all day Weds & Thursday (405) to release PRM-321. And, yes, they do fit the bay platform at Manningtree.
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Class 755/4 fitting in the bay Platform at Manningtree would be no surprise given that a Class 720 (5 cars) fits behind the starter signal from the bay.
 
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47584Suffolk said:
Of allied interest, 4-car 755s used over Harwich Town branch this week, early on Tues (406) then all day Weds & Thursday (405) to release PRM-321. And, yes, they do fit the bay platform at Manningtree.
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And a 755 today too, although apparently it had to be swapped with one at Ipswich during the day as the original 755 developed a fault.
 
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class321 said:
Wonder which units they are taking. Aren't all the units left are the ones in service?
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428 429 and 432 haven't ran a little while though.
Thursday the 27th may 2021. There was a move from southend Victoria to clacton csd with 429 and 432. And 429 and 432 ended up at clacton that day behind 402 and 405. Which as we know last Thursday the 03rd June 2021 went to gascoigne wood.
 
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Islineclear3_1 said:
Have non-PRM Class 321's been given official dispensation to continue in service and if so, do we know roughly how long, e.g. end 2021?

Obviously this depends upon further Class 720 introduction...
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Speaking to one of the managers yesterday they haven’t been given dispensation as such as that would mean they could run on their own. They are only allowed to run if attached to a PRM unit so there is no end date as technically no dispensation exists.

Hopefully the 720’s will be in service quickly and we can get rid of all the 321’s
 
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Shunter_69 said:
Speaking to one of the managers yesterday they haven’t been given dispensation as such as that would mean they could run on their own. They are only allowed to run if attached to a PRM unit so there is no end date as technically no dispensation exists.

Hopefully the 720’s will be in service quickly and we can get rid of all the 321’s
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Lets hope it never ends :D :D :lol:
 
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They will go eventually.
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I suppose so :frown:.

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428 429 and 432 haven't ran a little while though.
Thursday the 27th may 2021. There was a move from southend Victoria to clacton csd with 429 and 432. And 429 and 432 ended up at clacton that day behind 402 and 405. Which as we know last Thursday the 03rd June 2021 went to gascoigne wood.
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Thanks, any idea when they were last used?
 
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I suppose so :frown:.

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Thanks, any idea when they were last used?
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428 was approximately early to mid may.
However 321432 and 321429. Was last used as far as I am aware haven't seen since or have heard reports off running was on Thursday the 27th may 2021. Arrived shenfield platform one around 1120.
No sooner than 321431 and 321445 sad exit being towed to gascoigne wood.
321432 then lead 321429 ecs to clacton csd at shenfield around 1135 after changing ends ie direction off travel .
Move concerned was 5n98 1040 very short term planning from southend Victoria Carriage sidings to clacton csd.
However on that date around 1900 hours.
321402 was on top off 321405 which we know as gone last week.
With 321428 321429 and 321432 on the very rear. Also in the station sidings was 321332. And also 321419 was also near to 321402 but with its pan up and light inside but parked up at the buffers.
 
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warwickshire said:
428 was approximately early to mid may.
However 321432 and 321429. Was last used as far as I am aware haven't seen since or have heard reports off running was on Thursday the 27th may 2021. Arrived shenfield platform one around 1120.
No sooner than 321431 and 321445 sad exit being towed to gascoigne wood.
321432 then lead 321429 ecs to clacton csd at shenfield around 1135 after changing ends ie direction off travel .
Move concerned was 5n98 1040 very short term planning from southend Victoria Carriage sidings to clacton csd.
However on that date around 1900 hours.
321402 was on top off 321405 which we know as gone last week.
With 321428 321429 and 321432 on the very rear. Also in the station sidings was 321332. And also 321419 was also near to 321402 but with its pan up and light inside but parked up at the buffers.
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Thanks for the information. I have been on 321332, 405, 419, 428, 429, 431, 432. I think 429 might be off next week.
 
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Bit of 321 gen for anyone out and about today. There’s one circuit running as 8 x Renatus today, 12:18 LIV St to Clacton and 14:05 return then 16:02 Ipswich I think. It is 321320+312 however 312 is running on only 2 traction motors so it was loosing time on the 12:18 down not getting above 85mph anywhere between LIV St and Colch. Also the diagram that covers 13:00 Walton on the Naze to Colchester and 13:56 return is 8 x 321 again today too, a Northern unit plus 430 which was heavily graffitied on one side of one of the driving cars.
 
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