Class 321 storage/scrapping

[The_Train]

Met this while en route to Gascoigne Wood to phot 37418 a short while ago. (78300 11/2/23)

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Anyone know where it went please?

 

[Poyntz]

Anyone know where it went please?

Very likely Booths; they tried twice to move them there by rail,

 

[warwickshire]

Realtime Trains | 5H72 1148 Clacton C.S.D. to Db Cargo Fan A And B Sdgs | 24/02/2023

Real-time train running information for 5H72 1148 departure from Clacton C.S.D. to Db Cargo Fan A And B Sdgs on 24/02/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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5H72 dep 12E

321313 with 321323.
However leaving 321316 and possibly 321327 the next in line for Storage at Wembley.

 

[Sleepy]

Have it on good authority that GA expect to stop operating all 321s by May timetable change.

 

[lumitumey12345]

Have they ceased all workings out of Liverpool Street now?

 

[warwickshire]

Have they ceased all workings out of Liverpool Street now?

Yes.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Have it on good authority that GA expect to stop operating all 321s by May timetable change.

I’m honestly surprised they think they need them until then

 

[Purple Train]

Is there a plan for how long they're going to be operating on the Walton-on-the-Naze branch?

 

[Class15]

Is there a plan for how long they're going to be operating on the Walton-on-the-Naze branch?

May timetable change I believe.

 

[Purple Train]

May timetable change I believe.

Thank you

 

[306024]

Have they ceased all workings out of Liverpool Street now?

17.35 Colchester Town to Liverpool St is 321309 this evening, standing in for an earlier failure. Forms 19.18 Liverpool St to Clacton.

 

[Alfie1014]

17.35 Colchester Town to Liverpool St is 321309 this evening, standing in for an earlier failure. Forms 19.18 Liverpool St to Clacton.

Bugger I’m in the 18:42 down!

 

[cl365]

08.11 Clacton - Liverpool St & 10.18 return is a pair of 321's this morning 06/03

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[Trains66779]

Good Afternoon, with todays storage move how many 321s are left in operation please?

 

[The_Train]

Good Afternoon, with todays storage move how many 321s are left in operation please?

What storage move is that please?

 

[warwickshire]

What storage move is that please?

What storage move is that please?

5H72 1147 Clacton C.S.D to Wembley.
However doesn't appear to have ran.
Also 321s have done the odd Southminster and Clacton to London Liverpool Street substitute this week.
So maybe more 321 are being kept then withdrawn at the momment.

 

[The_Train]

5H72 1147 Clacton C.S.D to Wembley.
However doesn't appear to have ran.
Also 321s have done the odd Southminster and Clacton to London Liverpool Street substitute this week.
So maybe more 321 are being kept then withdrawn at the momment.

Thanks @warwickshire

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

5H72 1147 Clacton C.S.D to Wembley.
However doesn't appear to have ran.
Also 321s have done the odd Southminster and Clacton to London Liverpool Street substitute this week.
So maybe more 321 are being kept then withdrawn at the momment.

Getting ridiculous at this point. I personally just want rid of them. This new fleet replacement is taking years.

 

[306024]

Getting ridiculous at this point. I personally just want rid of them. This new fleet replacement is taking years.

It’s only ridiculous if you don’t know or understand what is actually happening. Not sure why this is causing such great personal angst but I’d rather have a 321 to travel in than stand in a five car 720 when it should have been 10 cars.

 

[43096]

Getting ridiculous at this point. I personally just want rid of them. This new fleet replacement is taking years.

It’s only ridiculous if you don’t know or understand what is actually happening. Not sure why this is causing such great personal angst but I’d rather have a 321 to travel in than stand in a five car 720 when it should have been 10 cars.

I'm understanding even less why they're getting so worked up about it given @TT-ONR-NRN is about 10,000 miles away!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I'm understanding even less why they're getting so worked up about it given @TT-ONR-NRN is about 10,000 miles away!

I'm not necessarily thinking for myself, more the patrons of the route promised an entire fleet replacement a very long time ago that still is not complete.
Probably Bombardier/Alstom more at fault rather than GA.

 

[bramling]

I'm not necessarily thinking for myself, more the patrons of the route promised an entire fleet replacement a very long time ago that still is not complete.
Probably Bombardier/Alstom more at fault rather than GA.

With the 321s still being well below 40 years and in good condition, it’s hardly the end of the world. Is it?

 

[HamworthyGoods]

I'm not necessarily thinking for myself, more the patrons of the route promised an entire fleet replacement a very long time ago that still is not complete.
Probably Bombardier/Alstom more at fault rather than GA.

Bearing in mind it is the heavily refurbed 321s with new interiors and air conditioning that are left in service I doubt many of the patrons are that fussed, for them the key thing is having a train with the right number of carriages.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

With the 321s still being well below 40 years and in good condition, it’s hardly the end of the world. Is it?

Seems unnecessarily defensive, but alright. I do wonder if some of these disgruntled replies stem from personal like of the 321s and annoyance that I've stated I'd like them to be withdrawn.

Bearing in mind it is the heavily refurbed 321s with new interiors and air conditioning that are left in service I doubt many of the patrons are that fussed, for them the key thing is having a train with the right number of carriages.

Yes, but perhaps questions should be asked as to why not enough 720s are available to provide the right number of carriages?
That said, they've done far, far better than the 701s, so I'll leave it for now.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Seems unnecessarily defensive, but alright. I do wonder if some of these disgruntled replies stem from personal like of the 321s and annoyance that I've stated I'd like them to be withdrawn.

Indeed, we’ve enough trains being withdrawn before replacements are ready/being funded without suggesting more to go!

 

[bramling]

Seems unnecessarily defensive, but alright. I do wonder if some of these disgruntled replies stem from personal like of the 321s and annoyance that I've stated I'd like them to be withdrawn.

I’m merely curious as to why you seem so keen to see them withdrawn ASAP. I have no vested interest apart from having used 321s in the past, and found them perfectly satisfactory from a user’s perspective. I can’t really claim to find their replacements on GA anything particularly special.

 

[ls2270]

321316 and 327 running this evening as 5H72 1649 Clacton Depot - Wembley Sidings.

 

[DustyBin]

Seems unnecessarily defensive, but alright. I do wonder if some of these disgruntled replies stem from personal like of the 321s and annoyance that I've stated I'd like them to be withdrawn.

I’m a 321 fan (obviously!), however looking at this objectively they’re not particularly old trains and they’ve been heavily refurbished, nor are they unreliable, uncomfortable, poorly kept etc. Furthermore, it’s not as if their replacements represent a step change (you could argue quite the opposite in fact!).

Your original post implies that they’re causing some kind of problem; I think that’s what people are disputing as they aren’t.

 

[306024]

I do wonder if some of these disgruntled replies stem from personal like of the 321s and annoyance that I've stated I'd like them to be withdrawn.

Or perhaps a professional view as to just how practical your opinion is.

Amusingly someone got on a 321 last week and said how posh it was for the Harwich branch.

 

[The_Train]

321316 and 327 running this evening as 5H72 1649 Clacton Depot - Wembley Sidings.

Do you have the RTT link for this please? Or if not, is it Clacton CSD or somewhere different it departs from?