Class 31s on NXEA Local Services

[Z12XE]

This one has been kicking around a while so I'm surprised it hasn't made it here yet, but from May onwards a Top and Tail Class 31 set is due to work one of the local diagrams out of Norwich because of the shortage of units for local lines.

There's a 31 due to go to Norwich early next month for timing runs and staff training, but from May it is expected to work in place of NC624 which would see it do 1 service to Gt Yarmouth and Lowestoft in the morning, then again on the evening MFO.

Currently this diag has a trip to Sheringham in which will be removed, most likely to the NC702 diag as this is where the unit off Sheringham does one round trip to Yarmouth as 624 does Sheringham!

 

[djw1981]

With what carriages? Mk2?

 

[Aureol]

Sounds interesting.
Might have to go for a bashing trip if it gets pulled off 8)
I still need to do 86101

 

[Nym]

I'd guess Mk3 from the amount that NXEA have knocking about

 

[37402]

I'd guess Mk3 from the amount that NXEA have knocking about

With Peds?! What time do you want to get there, next year?
It'll be through wired Fragon-scrap Mk2s.

 

[Nym]

could always double head both ends

 

[87015]

It'll be through wired Fragon-scrap Mk2s.

Those nice ones at Barrow Hill with dead flies and a nice thick layer of grime on the tables inside ?!

Should crack the Hastings unit back out

 

[O L Leigh]

Goyles at Norwich again? Lovely. Perhaps we can pinch a Met-Camm Cl101 power-trailer combo from somewhere to complete the scene.

one TN

 

[Z12XE]

Should crack the Hastings unit back out

That was suggested, but aparently its found other work so had to be the 31s

 

[Nym]

what about all these milk trains in store? or getting a CR 47 and Mk3 Rake?

 

[Z12XE]

Cost, and available resources.

Dont forget the willingness to do things long term - if the DfT wanted to solve this properly they could put the idle 180s into use somewhere to allow an extra 156 or 170 to go to Norwich.

 

[37412]

With Peds?! What time do you want to get there, next year?
It'll be through wired Fragon-scrap Mk2s.

Beat me to saying something like that :razz:

Why not have a word with DRS with some of there stock, Top'n'Tail 37's, 194 and 229 all summer please

 

[Nym]

I wonder how many other companies that under ordered will be resorting to this sort of fun stock? TPE might be looking at HSTs again soon, Northern might be getting 321s (I think they should get the stock from London Midland at the same time they electrify and 90mph the Bolton line, then cascade the 321s onto the Stockport and Airport express routes, or say a preston - macclsfeild service, use the 323s on Bolton Stoppers because of their killer acceleration, and chuck in the Blackpool North electrification too then TPE can get some more 350s!

Maybe have something on the Woodhead route, such as electrify it and extend it all the way to sheffeild again! then run the 321s there

 

[alex57601]

I wonder how many other companies that under ordered will be resorting to this sort of fun stock? TPE might be looking at HSTs again soon, Northern might be getting 321s (I think they should get the stock from London Midland at the same time they electrify and 90mph the Bolton line, then cascade the 321s onto the Stockport and Airport express routes, or say a preston - macclsfeild service, use the 323s on Bolton Stoppers because of their killer acceleration, and chuck in the Blackpool North electrification too then TPE can get some more 350s!

Maybe have something on the Woodhead route, such as electrify it and extend it all the way to sheffeild again! then run the 321s there

If only all of that ever came true (doesn't stop us from dreaming!).

Last I heard was that Northern won't be getting any 321s. Seems that the DfT want Northern to get a new-build fleet of EMUs to allow the 323s to be transferred to Birmingham.

Anyway, good to see 31s being used on more main line passenger duties again. Thought we'd never see such things after the collapse of FM Rail.

 

[Nym]

Dessies, Bombers or Junipers?

Proberbly one of the first two, passenger femiliaraty in most of the northern areas with 185s or possibly 170s. But northern always get *88** over on stock, they where ment to be getting turbostars for Scarbrough - Sheffeild and York - Blackpool!

 

[djw1981]

They did get the 158's in exchange for the 14x though.......and the heaton depot has the best performing 14x fleet in the country - over 5000 mpc.

 

[Guinness]

macclsfeild service,

Where?

 

[Nym]

Where?

near stoke

 

[Techniquest]

I think he was pointing out the huge spelling error...

Macclesfield, I believe...:-P

 

[Nym]

Yeah well, I don't deal with English much, I tend to write more in greek and other letters with a lot of equals signs and sqiggley lines, they all make more sense...

 

[Techniquest]

Fair play if you're tackling Greek languages, I can't understand a word of it!

 

[Jordy]

I think that correction may be something to do with the location of Chaz

 

[Nym]

Fair play if you're tackling Greek languages, I can't understand a word of it!

only greek letters, they ran out of english ones for the maths of engineering

 

[Techniquest]

Nevertheless, a tough subject to tackle. Hate it with a fiery passion!

 

[Nym]

Nevertheless, a tough subject to tackle. Hate it with a fiery passion!

whats wrong with engineering?

 

[Techniquest]

Sorry, missed the 'engineering' bit of your post somehow...

Can't stand maths myself, so I could not become an engineer. Too much 'i a = 6 and b = a after being timed by Y when Y = ab, what is c?' kind of rubbish for me!

 

[Derek Riley]

Let's hope the situation with ECT/Mainline Rail doesn't scupper the use of 31s in East Anglia. Seems incredible how complicated a loco hauled train is these days, must be some short memories out there!

Derek

 

[Demps]

I wonder how many other companies that under ordered will be resorting to this sort of fun stock? TPE might be looking at HSTs again soon, Northern might be getting 321s (I think they should get the stock from London Midland at the same time they electrify and 90mph the Bolton line, then cascade the 321s onto the Stockport and Airport express routes, or say a preston - macclsfeild service, use the 323s on Bolton Stoppers because of their killer acceleration, and chuck in the Blackpool North electrification too then TPE can get some more 350s!

Maybe have something on the Woodhead route, such as electrify it and extend it all the way to sheffeild again! then run the 321s there

The only fun thing you have stated there is a HST

 

[Nym]

Whats wrong with 350s?

 

[Z12XE]

Let's hope the situation with ECT/Mainline Rail doesn't scupper the use of 31s in East Anglia.

The idea has moved on now, it'll most likely be 47s.

Should be time timing runs this weekend.....