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After seeing a class 317/7 earlier it got me thinking about their future. Although this subclass or in fact any 317 isnt prm compliant at the moment how easy would it be to make the /7 subclass 2020 ready. They already have a uwc the other modifications needed are quite small. Such as a hustle alarm, New grabrails, maybe new flooring in vesturble and possibly a modified tread plate. How easy would it be to achieve this?
 
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Angel Trains aren't likely to spend any money when Porterbrook or Eversholt can offer a better deal with the 319s or 321s respectively.
 

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Angel Trains aren't likely to spend any money when Porterbrook or Eversholt can offer a better deal with the 319s or 321s respectively.
But out of the 321 fleet only the Renatus units will be 2020 compliant I believe.
 

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But out of the 321 fleet only the Renatus units will be 2020 compliant I believe.

The plan was to upgrade 30 units to Renatus spec? That'll be more than enough bearing in mind how electrification has stalled.
 

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The published franchise agreement for GA had a requirement to modify 26 of the 317 fleet for 2020 compliance and SDO. This would presumably not be the 317/7s though. Anyone any idea how that programme is going? Presumably gaining the GN fleet was to help with this?
 

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Anyone know whats happened to 317 722 the demonstrator last I hear it was in storage at Ilford and is only kept on standby correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Oh true, I'd completely forgotten about that. I guess that won't be AT money as such.
 

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I don't think there's much point in converting any more than a few 317/7s to 2020 spec; they're due to be withdrawn on London Overground and with the 320/321 'Renatus' programme, potential operators would probably go for them instead. Which is a shame as I really do like the /7 subclass.
 

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The 317/7s probably won't find use in their current layout as they are intercity-spec, but without many of the things intercity routes now demand, such as aircon.
 

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The published franchise agreement for GA had a requirement to modify 26 of the 317 fleet for 2020 compliance and SDO. This would presumably not be the 317/7s though. Anyone any idea how that programme is going? Presumably gaining the GN fleet was to help with this?

There is a bit of a mish mash collection of 317s being chosen as part of this 26. They're the ones with the longest left until overhaul hence why it's not in any numerical order. Nothing's been started yet but the designs are well underway.

Anyone know whats happened to 317 722 the demonstrator last I hear it was in storage at Ilford and is only kept on standby correct me if I'm wrong.

It became a christmas tree and got robbed of basically everything. It doesn't actually run and needs loads of work to bring it back. It's pretty much been written off for use in traffic.

Something to keep in mind is that the 317s have no future. Angel plans on scrapping them when they come off lease from GA/ARL.

The fact that they're the rosco for the 720s means scrapping the 317s won't leave them with a hole in their revenue stream and, as such, there's no need to keep them. Not least because they are, in reality, past it.
 
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