Class 185 Alarms

[TheGarner]

Hi all,

Got a bit of a question as this morning I was travelling on the 6:45 Warrington Central to Scarborough. Operated by TransPennine Express with a Class 185.

Today we came to an immediate stop by Trafford Park station and the staff announced that someone pulled/activated an alarm by mistake and the train had to come to a stop.

I was just wondering, are the alarms on this specific Class (or maybe most trains) that easy to activate by mistake?

 

[sd0733]

Hi all,

Got a bit of a question as this morning I was travelling on the 6:45 Warrington Central to Scarborough. Operated by TransPennine Express with a Class 185.

Today we came to an immediate stop by Trafford Park station and the staff announced that someone pulled/activated an alarm by mistake and the train had to come to a stop.

I was just wondering, are the alarms on this specific Class (or maybe most trains) that easy to activate by mistake?

Presumably they are the same as 350s which can and do get pushed a lot.
The call for aids also go off a lot but those don't stop the train and the red alarm handles by the doors are easily lent on as they are roughly shoulder height. Those passenger alarms will cause the driver to stop the train

 

[gimmea50anyday]

The alarm button in the toilet is often mistaken for the hand dryer button despite it being a big red button with ALARM written next to it in distinctively large and red letters!

The CFA butons in the ballroom are often pressed by inquisitive children


The alarm handles by the door are often triggered by people standing in the doorway. The handles are actually on a pivot and it is possible to pop them by leaning on them and in doing so push the bottom of the handle triggering it.

Normally the driver can override the alarm, giving the guard time to establish what the problem is while bringing the train to a stand at a position of safety if necessary. However there are a few units with passcom faults at the mo which can affect the destination screen displays and the auto announcements. This also affects comms between driver and guard or from the PAUs. The passcom will still sound but the driver can't override or talk to the PAU that has been triggered and therefore the train stops. Looks like you were one of those units.

 

[sd0733]

You obviously suffer the same confusion the 185s as we get on the 350s, with the flush and alarm buttons. I can really see how they are so terribly confusing, a button which says ''alarm" on it is clearly going to flush the toilet or open the door

 

[GW43125]

You obviously suffer the same confusion the 185s as we get on the 350s, with the flush and alarm buttons. I can really see how they are so terribly confusing, a button which says ''alarm" on it is clearly going to flush the toilet or open the door

 

[TheGarner]

The alarm button in the toilet is often mistaken for the hand dryer button despite it being a big red button with ALARM written next to it in distinctively large and red letters!

The CFA butons in the ballroom are often pressed by inquisitive children


The alarm handles by the door are often triggered by people standing in the doorway. The handles are actually on a pivot and it is possible to pop them by leaning on them and in doing so push the bottom of the handle triggering it.

Normally the driver can override the alarm, giving the guard time to establish what the problem is while bringing the train to a stand at a position of safety if necessary. However there are a few units with passcom faults at the mo which can affect the destination screen displays and the auto announcements. This also affects comms between driver and guard or from the PAUs. The passcom will still sound but the driver can't override or talk to the PAU that has been triggered and therefore the train stops. Looks like you were one of those units.

Makes sense - I haven't heard automated announcements for a while actually. All been done manually. Thanks for posting, much appreciated!

 

[cool110]

The CFA butons in the ballroom are often pressed by inquisitive children

I would love to see an episode of Strictly filmed on one.

 

[gimmea50anyday]

I would love to see an episode of Strictly filmed on one.

I want to set up one of my discos in one!!!

 

[47271]

The alarm button in the toilet is often mistaken for the hand dryer button

If only the hand dryers kicked in as quickly and effectively as the train brought screeching to a standstill.

 

[Roast Veg]

They would do if the hand dryers were declared a safety critical system - can we suggest that passengers with wet hands are a major hazard?

 

[xc170]

Just curious, what is the ballroom?

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Just curious, what is the ballroom?

The open area where the wheelchair space and tip-up seats are located between 1st class and the universal toilet

It is an internal nickname. IIRC VTEC/EC/GNER refer to the space in the centre of 1st class where the gangway switches sides as the ballroom too

 

[Spartacus]

They would do if the hand dryers were declared a safety critical system - can we suggest that passengers with wet hands are a major hazard?

The water tap's usually quick enough, usually just as you're getting your hands 'sort of' dry!