Class 175s to GWR

REVUpminster · Sunday at 13:13

spark001uk said:
Looks like it's going to do a fair few miles today, it's showing as currently running to time on 2C20, followed by 2E17 to Exeter SD.

Then 2P36 back to Plymouth, then to Laira. It must have the most passenger miles under it's belt.

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Amaranthe · Sunday at 13:19

Apologies if this is not the correct thread or if it's mentioned elsewhere in the 130+ pages of this thread...

I see GWR has a 2-car 150 running between Penzance and Exteter today and v.v, is this normal?

For example https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C50060/2026-08-23/detailed#allox_id=0

paultucker1012 · Sunday at 14:07

Amaranthe said:
Apologies if this is not the correct thread or if it's mentioned elsewhere in the 130+ pages of this thread...

I see GWR has a 2-car 150 running between Penzance and Exteter today and v.v, is this normal?

For example https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C50060/2026-08-23/detailed#allox_id=0

Sadly, yes.

With most of the 175s sitting on the naughty step at Laira, the 150s are just about all that is left.

spark001uk · Sunday at 15:46

paultucker1012 said:
Sadly, yes.

With most of the 175s sitting on the naughty step at Laira, the 150s are just about all that is left.

And that's proving to be hellish at best today due to cross country's meltdown.!!

Amaranthe · Sunday at 16:56

paultucker1012 said:
Sadly, yes.

With most of the 175s sitting on the naughty step at Laira, the 150s are just about all that is left.

spark001uk said:
And that's proving to be hellish at best today due to cross country's meltdown.!!

I hate to imagine what it was like aboard the 11:49 ex Penzance that I linked to in my previous post given the cancelled XC to Edinburgh that should have left 19 minutes earlier to it.

spark001uk · Sunday at 17:34

Amaranthe said:
I hate to imagine what it was like aboard the 11:49 ex Penzance that I linked to in my previous post given the cancelled XC to Edinburgh that should have left 19 minutes earlier to it.

I know.! I declined that at ply, due to the fact I've seen more comfortable tinned sardines, and opted for the slightly more bearable 1415 iet up

BillStampy · Sunday at 23:53

112 out tomorrow for the fault free milage runs. Fingers crossed.

REVUpminster · Monday at 07:42

BillStampy said:
112 out tomorrow for the fault free milage runs. Fingers crossed.

Seems to be running late.
115 doing Exeter- Paignton and back and then back and forth to Plymouth to come back with 175003 tonight.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:G15749/2026-08-24/detailed#allox_id=0

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Did 112 go back to Laira? It was running late.

Apedlar12 · Monday at 12:57

175009 and 113 have also been out today on 5Z77 09:31 Laira T&RSMD to Laira T&RSMD (via Newton Abbot).

First appearance for 113 since transferring down from Wolverton months ago.

Jrocks · Monday at 13:07

REVUpminster said:
Did 112 go back to Laira? It was running late.

Yes, it had a fault so back to Laira for a fix before it has to restart its fault free running from the start!

BillStampy · Monday at 13:19

Apedlar12 said:
First appearance for 113 since transferring down from Wolverton months ago.

Hopefully she makes her debut in service soon, might force my hand and make me travel down south to see it! :lol:

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Jrocks said:
Yes, it had a fault so back to Laira for a fix before it has to restart its fault free running from the start!

Well if you can identify what's causing the issue then it's just a matter of solving it and making sure it doesn't happen again, particularly once it enters service again.

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175115 seemingly had something go wrong as it lost a lot of time between Dawlish and Exeter and has been sent back to Laira as a result of it

Back to 0!

REVUpminster · Monday at 16:26

I thought 115 would do the mileage. Was halfway there.

XFeed · Monday at 21:30

REVUpminster said:
I thought 115 would do the mileage. Was halfway there.

If it was going to get a fault, prefer not to have had one during the 1k, better to have it midway as opposed to nearly at the 1k ?

REVUpminster · Monday at 21:33

XFeed said:
If it was going to get a fault, prefer not to have had one during the 1k, better to have it midway as opposed to nearly at the 1k ?

The diagram seems to be designed for 500 miles. If it had completed it today it would have done the 1000 miles.

XFeed · Monday at 21:38

REVUpminster said:
The diagram seems to be designed for 500 miles. If it had completed it today it would have done the 1000 miles.

Thanks for the clarification, that`s a shame that it had a problem today. Do we know what caused it to fail ?

Jrocks · Monday at 21:58

112 and 115 both had engine issues

BillStampy · Tuesday at 06:04

175113 (

) is out today with 175002 on the empty runs to Newton Abbot and Penzance and back.

Fingers crossed!

REVUpminster · Tuesday at 09:02

003 doing the only passenger run. I don't know if it's a knock on effect, six 3 car turbos yesterday and seven today at Exeter. Both days they worked Okehampton instead of 150s. Paignton still had two short-form 150s instead of the turbos. Maybe Oke hampton has seen an increase in traffic with the new station. Wasn't Okehampton going to get 3 car 175s from next week?

Still no ready to roll 175s from Wolverton.

TastyMaltesers · Tuesday at 09:32

REVUpminster said:
Wasn't Okehampton going to get 3 car 175s from next week?

I imagine that the plan has been pushed back, seeing as 003 appears to be the only 175 currently cleared for passenger use!

spark001uk · Tuesday at 12:24

I'm assuming this is linked to 2C11/2P16 and 2C21/2P26 being canned every day, guessing they simply don't have the stock to cover them?

TastyMaltesers · Tuesday at 12:47

spark001uk said:
I'm assuming this is linked to 2C11/2P16 and 2C21/2P26 being canned every day, guessing they simply don't have the stock to cover them?

It seems so - I guess it's all linked to the plan for 175s to be withheld from passenger service until they've done the 1000 miles empty without breaking down, and there being not enough other units to spread out to cover everything.

spark001uk · Tuesday at 13:03

Damn it, the one day I take 2E11 up from BOD, it gets canned at PLY - but on the plus side it doesn't appear to be unit trouble, rather they've no relief driver.!!

REVUpminster · Tuesday at 15:08

spark001uk said:
Damn it, the one day I take 2E11 up from BOD, it gets canned at PLY - but on the plus side it doesn't appear to be unit trouble, rather they've no relief driver.!!

It looks like the diagram will be reinstated as 2C32 at Plymouth. It's an important diagram as it has the last Penzance to Exeter to connect with the last Bristol train.

150249 · Tuesday at 16:14

REVUpminster said:
003 doing the only passenger run. I don't know if it's a knock on effect, six 3 car turbos yesterday and seven today at Exeter. Both days they worked Okehampton instead of 150s. Paignton still had two short-form 150s instead of the turbos. Maybe Oke hampton has seen an increase in traffic with the new station. Wasn't Okehampton going to get 3 car 175s from next week?

Still no ready to roll 175s from Wolverton.

Yeah these 2 car 150 workings are a big problem. On 150265 at the moment and people were turned away at Exeter St Thomas.

spark001uk · Tuesday at 16:36

150249 said:
Yeah these 2 car 150 workings are a big problem. On 150265 at the moment and people were turned away at Exeter St Thomas

Put some side ladders on, stick 'em on the roof, India style.! :lol:

Apedlar12 · Tuesday at 17:33

REVUpminster said:
It looks like the diagram will be reinstated as 2C32 at Plymouth.

802006 now doing 2C32 from Plymouth instead of 175003 which was originally planned.

spark001uk · Tuesday at 19:08

Apedlar12 said:
802006 now doing 2C32 from Plymouth instead of 175003 which was originally planned.

No 175 signing driver?

Emaharg · Tuesday at 19:27

spark001uk said:
No 175 signing driver?

The 2 car 175 on Exeter to Penzance mid afternoon was dangerously overcrowded on Monday. I boarded at Teignmouth and had to get off at Newton Abbot. Many refused to board there. Serious questions need answering Heidi!

Wyrleybart · Tuesday at 19:56

Emaharg said:
The 2 car 175 on Exeter to Penzance mid afternoon was dangerously overcrowded on Monday. I boarded at Teignmouth and had to get off at Newton Abbot. Many refused to board there. Serious questions need answering Heidi!

Yes. I suppose Heidi would have to be the mouthpiece but the fleet clearly were never going to be match fit, even if there was adequate and timely crew training. to introduce them. Running two car DMUs on the mainline in Devon and Cornwall in the height of the Summer season is plain crazy, but personally has not been a surprise to me. The 2+4 HSTs should have been retained until the 175s bedded in, but where are the 802s which replaced the HSTs ?

GoneSouth · Tuesday at 20:07

Emaharg said:
Serious questions need answering Heidi!

I’m sure they will be when a beefy rolling stock order is announced on the day of re nationalisation. How very cynical of me

Until then, and for 3 years after that date we’re stuck with 26 non functioning rust buckets.

Actually, on that note, have they had any splashes at Dawlish yet? I suspect that will be another to add to the collection of reasons they can’t run. I was really looking forward to using these instead of those deafeningly loud and uncomfortable 150s.

Such a shame, I really hope they can turn it around. Good luck.

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