Class 142 Cardan Shafts

[DesiroDom]

Why has Health and Safety not stepped in when 142's are dropping cardan shafts too often seems stupid. Especially as someone was injured by flying ballast on April of this year. They need to be replaced.

 

[starrymarkb]

Why has Health and Safety not stepped in when 142's are dropping cardan shafts too often seems stupid. Especially as someone was injured by flying ballast on April of this year. They need to be replaced.

Maybe the shafts have been?

 

[ainsworth74]

Dropping too often? The last time I heard that a 142 dropped its cardan shaft was a couple of months ago. It's not as if they're falling off every day!

Though I won't argue that they need replacing, but I think there are better reasons for it than this

 

[driver9000]

That issue only affected around 16 units, H&S and RAIB were involved. Measures were put in place to deal with it (the affected units restricted to 60mph and increased monitoring). Some have since been fitted with monitoring equipment but in the main the problem has been dealt with and most of the 60mph sets have come out of the monitoring programme and are back to 75mph with no problems. From memory the problem lay with a poor batch of bearings rather than tthe Pacer.

 

[DesiroDom]

That issue only affected around 16 units, H&S and RAIB were involved. Measures were put in place to deal with it (the affected units restricted to 60mph and increased monitoring). Some have since been fitted with monitoring equipment but in the main the problem has been dealt with and most of the 60mph sets have come out of the monitoring programme and are back to 75mph with no problems.

I still say they are a hazard and when you travel on them a lot you can't help but wonder how they passed health and safety inspections, its mainly northerns which are doing it

 

[Darandio]

I still say they are a hazard and when you travel on them a lot you can't help but wonder how they passed health and safety inspections, its mainly northerns which are doing it

But they are not "doing it". You are talking as if they are falling off left, right and centre. It was looked at, it's over and done with.

 

[DesiroDom]

But they are not "doing it". You are talking as if they are falling off left, right and centre. It was looked at, it's over and done with.

I suppose so guess I worry too much

 

[northwichcat]

When is the RAIB report going to be ready following the Durham incident?

 

[Nym]

If you want to worry, then worry about the state of wiring that gets passed out of Central Rivers Depot

 

[Hydro]

That issue only affected around 16 units, H&S and RAIB were involved. Measures were put in place to deal with it (the affected units restricted to 60mph and increased monitoring). Some have since been fitted with monitoring equipment but in the main the problem has been dealt with and most of the 60mph sets have come out of the monitoring programme and are back to 75mph with no problems.

I still say they are a hazard

So someone in the know has confirmed the problem existed, has been monitored and since rectified and you still say they are a hazard? How long have you been a 14x fitter?

 

[Peter Sarf]

To sum up. They identified the cause was a bad batch of bearings. They restricted the units they knew had that dodgey batch to a lower speed. They appear to have now replaced all the dogey batch as a precaution. End of problem.

To put it into context. Dont get distracted by something at the risk of ignoring a worse risk. I would worry about all the level crossings that humans can use. I suspect Ufton Bervert level crossing killed more people than have died on/near any pacers. But that probably wont happen there again.

 

[142094]

I still say they are a hazard and when you travel on them a lot you can't help but wonder how they passed health and safety inspections, its mainly northerns which are doing it

Quick question:

Do you own/drive or travel in a car often?

 

[Peter Sarf]

Good point. Or perhaps rides a bike or motorbike.

 

[RichmondCommu]

If you want to worry, then worry about the state of wiring that gets passed out of Central Rivers Depot

If there is a problem with the wiring why isn't something done about it?

 

[Nym]

I remember when 170306 came to TPE and I saw a load of wiring going through domestic IP65 boxes that had been smashed by impact damage and then put back together with electrical tape, that kinda makes it not IP65 compliant any more!

 

[junglejames]

I still say they are a hazard and when you travel on them a lot you can't help but wonder how they passed health and safety inspections, its mainly northerns which are doing it

They passed inspections, because they are safe. End of. You have nothing to worry about.
Every train is affected by problems at some time or another. A couple of pacers dropped their shafts, and precautions put in place on all pacers that could be affected. Problem was fixed, as has been mentioned, and this situation is now over. Its old news.