Clapham Junction Spotting Advice

[N Scorah]

Could someone tell me what classes of units i can see through here please? Thanks.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Could someone tell me what classes of units i can see through here please? Thanks.

158, 159, 377, 378, 387/1, 387/2, 444, 450, 455, 458/4, 458/5, 701 and whatever freight may pass.

In case you're interested in variety of liveries or something, I've coloured the class numbers in accordance to the liveries/colour schemes each are currently in.

 

[fgwrich]

Could someone tell me what classes of units i can see through here please? Thanks.

London Overground : 378 (EMU)
South Western Railway : 158, 159 (DMU), 444, 450, 455, 458, 701 (EMU)
Southern : 377 - in many different versions (EMU)
Gatwick Express : 387 (EMU).

You’ll often get freight passing by along with rail tours or the Bellmond British Pullman.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

London Overground : 378 (EMU)
South Western Railway : 158, 159 (DMU), 444, 450, 455, 458, 701 (EMU)
Southern : 377 - in many different versions (EMU)
Gatwick Express : 387 (EMU).

You’ll often get freight passing by along with rail tours or the Bellmond British Pullman.

Southern 387s too, the four or five ex GN units are often seen now as they have booked work to Eastbourne several times per day.

 

[N Scorah]

158, 159, 377, 378, 387/1, 387/2, 444, 450, 455, 458/4, 458/5, 701 and whatever freight may pass.

In case you're interested in variety of liveries or something, I've coloured the class numbers in accordance to the liveries/colour schemes each are currentl

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Southern 387s too, the four or five ex GN units are often seen now as they have booked work to Eastbourne several times per day.

Excellent, thanks!

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London Overground : 378 (EMU)
South Western Railway : 158, 159 (DMU), 444, 450, 455, 458, 701 (EMU)
Southern : 377 - in many different versions (EMU)
Gatwick Express : 387 (EMU).

You’ll often get freight passing by along with rail tours or the Bellmond British Pullman.

Think i'll need to buy a dictaphone! Thanks.

 

[wls1]

Overground may also send a 710 down to Clapham occasionally on a Stratford service but that's about it

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Overground may also send a 710 down to Clapham occasionally on a Stratford service but that's about it

Ah yes, usually a couple on the Mildmay line although when this happens I tend to see them primarily on Richmonds for some reason rather than Claphams.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Sometimes a SE 377 too!

 

[Flange Squeal]

158, 159, 377, 378, 387/1, 387/2, 444, 450, 455, 458/4, 458/5, 701 and whatever freight may pass.

In case you're interested in variety of liveries or something, I've coloured the class numbers in accordance to the liveries/colour schemes each are currently in.

Just to expand on this helpful list, some of South Western Railway’s diesel units still wear the old South West Trains white/red/orange/blue livery, adding a bit of further colour.

 

[Class15]

Ah yes, usually a couple on the Mildmay line although when this happens I tend to see them primarily on Richmonds for some reason rather than Claphams.

I agree. When I take them they are always going to Richmond. Maybe an issue changing power on the move?

 

[87015]

I agree. When I take them they are always going to Richmond. Maybe an issue changing power on the move?

Nope, just most of the Clapham diagrams come on/off Wembley as it has direct access, which is tricky as the units box in and you don't want a 710 being stuck so it has to come out on a diagram which joins/splits during the day as they can't do that with 378s. The Richmond diagrams are a touch more 710 friendly.

 

[Class15]

Nope, just most of the Clapham diagrams come on/off Wembley as it has direct access, which is tricky as the units box in and you don't want a 710 being stuck so it has to come out on a diagram which joins/splits during the day as they can't do that with 378s. The Richmond diagrams are a touch more 710 friendly.

Ahh, and what is the issue with 710s at Wembley C Sidings exactly? Do they need Willesden for a particular reason?

 

[87015]

Ahh, and what is the issue with 710s at Wembley C Sidings exactly? Do they need Willesden for a particular reason?

No, its simply operationally single ended sidings with units stacked up on top of each other so lacks flexibility in what arrivals can form what departures. Say your 710 is the first arrival but you need it on first departure the next morning, doesn't work.

 

[Class15]

No, its simply operationally single ended sidings with units stacked up on top of each other so lacks flexibility in what arrivals can form what departures. Say your 710 is the first arrival but you need it on first departure the next morning, doesn't work.

Surprised there’s no connection at the north end. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Dfatcontroller]

No, its simply operationally single ended sidings with units stacked up on top of each other so lacks flexibility in what arrivals can form what departures. Say your 710 is the first arrival but you need it on first departure the next morning, doesn't work.

The TOC train planning unit wouldn't plan for that to happen anyway.

 

[StephenHunter]

There are also two classes of trams that call there.

 

[Class15]

There are also two classes of trams that call there.

Hmm… are you sure about that?

 

[Shimbleshanks]

There are also two classes of trams that call there.

Getting mixed up with East Croydon or Wimbledon, I think...

 

[Deepgreen]

701s - hmm. There will be a yard full of them gently gathering cobwebs, but actually running - not so much!

 

[StephenHunter]

Getting mixed up with East Croydon or Wimbledon, I think...

Sorry, you're right, that is Wimbledon.