China Clay silver bullets - different brandings

[cjs11]

Apologies if this is the wrong location, and I'm not sure it merits an entire thread, as it's only one simple question...

China Clay silver bullet wagons

Are there / were there ever mixed trains of the Nacco livery or Nacco/ECC livery and the Ermewa livery? Or were these two distinct flows and liveries never seen together?

Winding the clock back to as early as 1997, which ones could be seen on the northern WCML above Preston? My memory has the Burngullow-Irvine trains passing through Penrith, and I think these were Nacco and Nacco/ECC mixed.

Were the Ermewa ones for the Chunnel flow Belgium-Scotland from 2007? What was their route?

They were always so mucky, any branding doesn't really stick in the memory banks and they could easily have been obscured. Just want the prototypical ones for Penrith circa 1997-present.

MTIA

 

[Ashley Hill]

I only remember a NACCO branding on these wagons when passing through the west of England. I've never heard of Ermewa.

 

[fgwrich]

I only remember a NACCO branding on these wagons when passing through the west of England. I've never heard of Ermewa.

Ermewa are a French based Wagon lessor, in the same vein as NACCO, T

Railcars Leasing — Ermewa Group | Transport Asset Leasing

www.ermewa-group.com

For Penrith circa 1997 though I’m sure you would have only seen the NACCO branded ones though, could the others have been a later build given how weathered and non Silver the “Silver Bullets” became?