Chiltern Railways

[rail-britain]

I need a little information about platform lengths on trains served by Chiltern Railways
What is the "typical" train length?
Are there any platforms with length restrictions?

As an aside
Does anyone have links to :
diagrams of operation of units

 

[andel]

Typically they'll manage an 8 car set but some are shorter (up Stratford way)

 

[rail-britain]

As an aside
Does anyone have links to :
diagrams of operation of units

http://www.prar.fsnet.co.uk/diagrams.html
Doesn't do Chiltern Raiwlays diagrams...
Still searching

 

[Mojo]

I believe the max length on the Aylesbury line is 6 car, but 6 cars don't fit in the platform at Rickmansworth. Also last time I checked Little Kimble & Monks Risborough were 4 car max.

 

[rail-britain]

Aylesbury line is 6 car
Rickmansworth (edit) possibly 4 car
Little Kimble 4 car
Monks Risborough 4 car

Excellent, now looking for info on Marylebone, Banbury, Leamington Spa, Stratfod-u-A, and Birmingham SH

 

[Ascot]

Best bet is to look at sectional appendixes, you work in the railway so you can easily get them .

All these are MD btw:
430
435
401
415
701
710
712
720
725

Those are the main ones excluding New St diversions, Oxford and Paddington stops...

Oh and rule of thumb, say car length is 23m or 20m, then it's platform length divided by car length = max car give or take a few for errors so again common sence it. Hope that helps. Do you want this in Office Word 2007 format or must it be from a particular web browser?

 

[DavyCrocket]

Im sure Rickmansworth is 5 cars maximum, they do run longer than 6 car ones in the peak or as diversions, but not stopping at the LU stations.
In leaf full there is a minumum limit of at least 3 cars, but that is due to signalling issues rather than platforms!

 

[rail-britain]

Best bet is to look at sectional appendixes, you work in the railway so you can easily get them

I used to work in the railway, between 1990 and 1994
I am now employed in the media centre, and don't have access to that info
I have to obtain everything through FOI and each request takes 28 days, and ironically most of it can be found on the internet within 72 hours!
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Do you want this in Office Word 2007 format or must it be from a particular web browser?

Any file format is acceptable

 

[djw1981]

We have only one media centre in the uk? wow

 

[me123]

I have a quick question: Can Chiltern ustilise Selective Door Opening so that, at the short platforms, they can operate longer trains whilst only opening some of the doors?

 

[rail-britain]

I have a quick question: Can Chiltern ustilise Selective Door Opening so that, at the short platforms, they can operate longer trains whilst only opening some of the doors?

If it is in their SA with the ORR then they are permitted to do so, otherwise they are not
I am going to be looking into this over the next few days

 

[Bonemaster]

Snow Hill services can be anything between 3 and 8 a few platform lenghts that I have

Leamington 12 & 15 coaches
Warwick 9
Warwick Parkway 10
Hatton, Claverdon, Wilmcote - 6
Bearley 3
Stratford 8
Moor Street 10
Snow Hill 13

From the Quail atlas, excellent purchase

 

[AlexS]

Type Rules of the Plan Network Rail into google and you shall find your answers for platform lengths, in metres anyway, you'll have to convert that into carriages by dividing by 23!

 

[rail-britain]

Type Rules of the Plan Network Rail into google and you shall find your answers for platform lengths, in metres anyway, you'll have to convert that into carriages by dividing by 23!

That method doesn't work for the number of permitted carriages that a TOC can have in a platform
A platform may be capable of holding 8 carriages, but it may only be permitted for 4 and 6 cars
It is the actual "stop boards" information I am looking for
Sadly, the ORR website doesn't contain this in the TOC Station Access Agreements

 

[AlexS]

Rules of the Plan has appended stop board distances next to actual platform lengths I believe?

 

[rail-britain]

I've searched the NR website, and there is nothing matching that

 

[Ascot]

Ring them up and ask, if they say you can't have that sort of information then the chances are none of us are.

 

[rail-britain]

An FOI (Freedom of Information) request has to be submitted in writing
This request costs £250 and includes all the stations in the UK
All I want are some route specific
It would be cheaper to buy a return and include an overnight stay in London!

 

[Bonemaster]

An FOI (Freedom of Information) request has to be submitted in writing
This request costs £250 and includes all the stations in the UK
All I want are some route specific
It would be cheaper to buy a return and include an overnight stay in London!

NR are not covered under the Freedom of Information act anyway. I have recently written to my MP to look into this matter, as I consider it to be a public enterprise rather than a private company.

 

[AlexS]

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse documents/Rules Of The Route/MENU/Roprmain.pdf

 

[rail-britain]

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse documents/Rules Of The Route/MENU/Roprmain.pdf

I've checked the route and there are only the platform lengths
I am looking for the positioning and use of the "stop boards"

Freedom of Information Act applies to both public and private companies, as well as government bodies
The DfT are even kind enough to publish all those received!

 

[Bonemaster]

I've checked the route and there are only the platform lengths
I am looking for the positioning and use of the "stop boards"

Freedom of Information Act applies to both public and private companies, as well as government bodies
The DfT are even kind enough to publish all those received!

The Information commisioner clarified the situation with regards the freedom of information act last year

"The Information Commissioner took the opportunity to clarify Network Rail’s status under both the EIR and the Freedom of Information Act. He has ruled that due to the public administration functions and the responsibilities of the company, Network Rail is considered to be a public authority under the EIR. However, it is not considered to be a public authority for the purpose of the Freedom of Information Act, and so will not have to respond to FOI requests." (where EIR is Environmental Information Request)

The act only applies to "Public Authorities", the data protection act handled by the same body applies to all organisations both public and private.

Details of the FOI act are here http://www.foi.gov.uk/yourRights/