Check signal aspect before proceeding.

[quarella]

Travelling from Victoria to Crystal Palace this sign is on a couple of platforms. Some reminders such as "Check AWS" I am quite comfortable with but a sign to check the signal aspect as a passenger does not fill me with confidence.

 

[142094]

Travelling from Victoria to Crystal Palace this sign is on a couple of platforms. Some reminders such as "Check AWS" I am quite comfortable with but a sign to check the signal aspect as a passenger does not fill me with confidence.

Simply a reminder - I'd rather have a sign saying something like that rather than a delay due to a SPaD. Some 158s have them on the door panel for conductors, to remind them to only give the ding-ding on the buzzer if the signal was off.

 

[Cherry_Picker]

The sign was probably erected as the result of a SPAD happening there previously. The TOC needs to be seen to be doing something to reduce the number of SPADs, and a sign at a high risk or multi SPAD signal is often a recommendation of an investigation following an incident. I wouldnt lose any sleep over it, it doesnt mean drivers are idiots.

 

[strange6]

Signal Platform Signal Action

 

[matchmaker]

I think it is to prevent "ding ding and away" incidents.

 

[spacehopper]

It is mainly in DOO areas.

As driver has more to do(o), busy looking at station DOO monitors. Often see this sticker posted on or next to DOO monitors to "re-check signal aspect".

Noticed on Scottish Region that they have something like "warning remote platform starting signal E307".

Yes on some non DOO TOCs on the inside of door control panel is a remind to the guard to check signal is showing a proceed aspect.

All about doing everything they can to mitigate the chance of a SPAD.

 

[66526]

We get signs like these on the Underground. One of them was 'Congestion ahead' with a picture of a 'queue' of trains in a road style warning sign.

 

[causton]

You see them on tills in shops - reminders for the staff to ask for a loyalty card, remember laws of selling stuff to under 18s etc, doesn't mean the staff aren't very good (although sometimes they aren't ) - it's just doing something to go towards preventing a horrible accident, or at the worse preventing the driver from ruining their day (and much longer as well!)

Although some LU platforms have too many staff notices at the end. "Busy interchange ahead?" - no interchange due to xx on xx/xx/11 (usually about a week old) etc, drivers will start ignoring them if they put too many out!

 

[BestWestern]

"Check Signal Aspect" signs are fairly common on some areas, they can be found on many Southern stations along the Coastway route, and I believe SWT also use them in places. They are simply an additional safeguard, the same as having a DRA in the cab. Of course, no Driver should accelerate past a red aspect, but as we all know it isn't a perfect world and we can all mess it up once in a while. In reality, these signs probably do relatively little, as it's beens shown many times that routine breeds complacency and doesn't do a great deal to help raise awarenes, but every little thing helps.

 

[455driver]

I find these signs rather condescending, if you dont check the signal before pulling away then you shouldnt be driving and a poxy sign wont make any difference.

I have noticed a few "signal Wxxx 300 yards ahead" signs springing up as well, well thanks but I know that because I learnt (and signed for) the route.

 

[ANorthernGuard]

even the most experienced Guard/Driver can make a mistake, no harm in anything that can minimise it

 

[wensley]

GC 180s have them inside the door control panels at each door as well, it seems to becoming more SOP than something to be worried about

 

[island]

I thought that this was what the DRA was for.

 

[TDK]

I find these signs rather condescending, if you dont check the signal before pulling away then you shouldnt be driving and a poxy sign wont make any difference.

I have noticed a few "signal Wxxx 300 yards ahead" signs springing up as well, well thanks but I know that because I learnt (and signed for) the route.

Everyone makes mistakes from time to time, don't be so patronising

 

[notadriver]

I thought that this was what the DRA was for.

What's does DRA stand for and what does it do?

 

[Pacerpilot]

I find these signs rather condescending, if you dont check the signal before pulling away then you shouldnt be driving and a poxy sign wont make any difference.

I have noticed a few "signal Wxxx 300 yards ahead" signs springing up as well, well thanks but I know that because I learnt (and signed for) the route.

That's a pretty poor attitude and I sincerely hope that you dont eat those words.

 

[Cherry_Picker]

I thought that this was what the DRA was for.

What's does DRA stand for and what does it do?

Driver Reminder Appliance (or something similar) and it's a large button or switch on the desk. When they are pressed they glow bright red and stop the train from taking power, either by cutting off the fuel pump or applying the brakes. The ones that cut of the fuel are better as they can be applied as you coast along the platform.

 

[TDK]

What's does DRA stand for and what does it do?

DRA is a Driver reminder appliance. There is a button/switch in the drivers cab when activated in conjunction with rules and regulations will illuminate red and prevent the train from taking traction power when power is applied by the driver, it is operated by the driver as a reminder of a danger signal or a previous caution signal before a station without the station starter signal in view, it will also be applied when leaving the cab.
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That's a pretty poor attitude and I sincerely hope that you dont eat those words.

Seen this before and it usually ends up in tears.

 

[pendolino]

I like the DRA reminder signs that remind us to use the reminder.

 

[Pacerpilot]

Seen this before and it usually ends up in tears.

Ditto, A new-ish Driver who proclaimed everything to be a "Piece of ****".
This job is a "Piece of ****", driving trains is a "Piece of ****"... "I dont understand how anyone could have a SPAD" etc...
Then, not long into his driving career, went and passed a signal on a stretch with a low linespeed, and decent visibility. He is still human and still prone to same mistakes as the rest of us.

 

[Tracky]

Best reminder sign ive seen is

!
Station
Ahead​

 

[wessex]

Sometimes you can be tight up against a signal and have to lean out to see it, the signaller may put it back to red due to an incident ahead, so you need to check it first and last before you set off.

 

[DavidBusDriver]

Surely can't be thinking Tulse Hill there :P

 

[wessex]

Surely can't be thinking Tulse Hill there :P

might be if an 8 car mucker

there are others though

 

[Minilad]

Ditto, A new-ish Driver who proclaimed everything to be a "Piece of ****".
This job is a "Piece of ****", driving trains is a "Piece of ****"... "I dont understand how anyone could have a SPAD" etc...
Then, not long into his driving career, went and passed a signal on a stretch with a low linespeed, and decent visibility. He is still human and still prone to same mistakes as the rest of us.

Yep we had one of those too. Knew everything. Thought it was an easy job. Not driving trains anymore funnily enough

 

[ChrisCooper]

It's not just new people who can have these attitudes either, older staff can have a similar thing too. Fairly recently where I work I overheard one of the senior staff moaning about some new proceedures brought in to improve safety, and how he'd got on for years without an accident without all this, and a dig about people with degrees who think they know better than the people doing the job. After that I made sure he was checked out, and surprise surprise not only was he not following the proceedures but he made a mistake that would have been prevented had he followed the proceedure. Don't know exactly what happened as I wasn't involved beyond reporting it, but he's still working and now following proceedures properly.

 

[66526]

Yep we had one of those too. Knew everything. Thought it was an easy job. Not driving trains anymore funnily enough

A lot of people underestimate the hazards of arrogance!