Caught Using My Son's Oyster

[shell07]

Just as you were told, you'll get a letter in the post with instructions on how to pay the fine. Usually you'll be able to pay over the phone with a debit card, online, or in cash at a convenience store with "paypoint".

Once you've paid the full amount, the case is closed. There won't be any more "papers".

Remember to declare your criminal conviction when you renew any insurance you have over the next year.

If this will be spent after a year, i will renew my visa on january 2026, do i still need to declare even if 1 year is done?

 

[island]

If this will be spent after a year, i will renew my visa on january 2026, do i still need to declare even if 1 year is done?

The law (and the rules of this forum) says that we cannot give you immigration advice. You will have to speak to a solicitor or a licensed immigration advisor.

 

[shell07]

The law (and the rules of this forum) says that we cannot give you immigration advice. You will have to speak to a solicitor or a licensed immigration advisor.

Thank you so much for patiently answering all mu question. I will pay the fine now so it will be done today.

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The law (and the rules of this forum) says that we cannot give you immigration advice. You will have to speak to a solicitor or a licensed immigration advisor.

When declaring it should i say convicted of farr evasion?

 

[island]

Thank you so much for patiently answering all mu question. I will pay the fine now so it will be done today.

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When declaring it should i say convicted of farr evasion?

Again, we cannot advise on immigration matters.

If declaring to someone else, then yes, fare evasion is one way to say it.

 

[shell07]

Again, we cannot advise on immigration matters.

If declaring to someone else, then yes, fare evasion is one way to say it.

I made a payment now via telephone call, and I also confirm it in my bank. Is that all I need to do?

 

[island]

I made a payment now via telephone call, and I also confirm it in my bank. Is that all I need to do?

You need to make payment in accordance with the instructions given on the letter from the court.

I do not have the letter, so I don't know what those instructions are.

 

[tskir]

Regarding immigration matters, it's important to note that the law only prohibits unlicensed people from issuing specific advice tailored to a particular person's situation. So the posters above are correct, neither I nor anyone else can reply to questions from @shell07 about anything regarding the effects of this conviction on her visa status and extension.

However, what the law explicitly allows (see guidance, page 7/8, “Signposting and non-technical assistance”) to do for anyone is to signpost a person asking to official published guidance, including specifically guidance published on gov.uk.

So, I am well within the law to post this official guidance link for @shell07 to study on her own: UKVI — Guidance — Grounds for refusal: criminality.

 

[Hadders]

I think we're done with what we can and can't say on immigration matters.

 

[shell07]

You need to make payment in accordance with the instructions given on the letter from the court.

I do not have the letter, so I don't know what those instructions are.

I followed the instructions given by the court my only concern is how can I know if they have already received the payment?

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I think we're done with what we can and can't say on immigration matters.

Inunderstand this thank you..

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I followed the instructions given by the court my only concern is how can I know if they have already received the payment?

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Inunderstand this thank you..

They have given mo a flyers stating the ways of payment and I chose the pay via phonecall, I followed all the instructions and the payment went thru, my only concern is how can i know if theyve received the payment? I didnt get any email of confirmation but in the phone call they gave me a reference number.

 

[Puffing Devil]

Keep the reference number and save a copy of your bank statement showing that the payment has gone through. Also, keep the instructions you received regarding the payment.

If you've followed the instructions you were given, there should be no problems. In case of issues, you have everything to show that you have paid.

 

[shell07]

Keep the reference number and save a copy of your bank statement showing that the payment has gone through. Also, keep the instructions you received regarding the payment.

If you've followed the instructions you were given, there should be no problems. In case of issues, you have everything to show that you have paid.

I received a message from HMCTS tiday saying the payment is received but they cant allocate it to a specific fine account. This is so frustrating.

 

[Puffing Devil]

You need to make payment in accordance with the instructions given on the letter from the court.

I do not have the letter, so I don't know what those instructions are.

I received a message from HMCTS tiday saying the payment is received but they cant allocate it to a specific fine account. This is so frustrating.

The advice from Island is key here. Have you had a letter or other document from the court telling you how to make payment for your fine, with your own reference number on it?

From what I've read you are an outlier in the court process seeking to pay up immediately and the court system just isn't geared up for that level of compliance.

Now that you've received a message from HMCTS, you must work with them on the contact number and details provided to get your payment allocated to your account.

 

[shell07]

The advice from Island is key here. Have you had a letter or other document from the court telling you how to make payment for your fine, with your own reference number on it?

From what I've read you are an outlier in the court process seeking to pay up immediately and the court system just isn't geared up for that level of compliance.

Now that you've received a message from HMCTS, you must work with them on the contact number and details provided to get your payment allocated to your account.

Yes I have received a flyers from court telling me where to pay as they have ordered me to pay right away. Ive emailed and called the court already and they said to call them back again next week as my account was not yet ready. I just cant understand the point of ordering to pay right away when the money will not be allocated directly to my account, I hope the money will not get lost and be credited to my account.

 

[island]

I told you to follow the instructions in a letter from the court. You should have waited for that letter which would have a reference number to ensure the payment was allocated properly. You now need to wait until it arrives. Stop ringing, stop emailing. The courts have hundreds of people to deal with. They'll get to you in turn.

 

[dh297]

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[SuspectUsual]

Hello can someone help me with my situation,

Last Friday 8th Nov , I was stopped by the railway police at Ilford station using my son's zip card.

If you need advice, please create a thread of your own in this sub-forum. It keeps things nice and clear that way

 

[shell07]

I told you to follow the instructions in a letter from the court. You should have waited for that letter which would have a reference number to ensure the payment was allocated properly. You now need to wait until it arrives. Stop ringing, stop emailing. The courts have hundreds of people to deal with. They'll get to you in turn.

Hi one last question. After a year do i still need to declare this

 

[island]

Hi one last question. After a year do i still need to declare this

After a year the conviction will be spent and you will not need to declare it for most purposes.

 

[Pushpit]

Hi one last question. After a year do i still need to declare this

Usually you don't need to declare this one year after paying the fine and it's usually illegal to discriminate against someone on this basis. The exceptions will be very clearly laid out in say a job application, where there are some jobs in healthcare, law enforcement, security services, finance, public transport, working with animals, where you will be asked to declare all criminal convictions and cautions. In this scenario they will often quote "Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974" since that is the legislation that guides this area, so if that legislation is mentioned, then there is usually a clear statement that spent convictions must be disclosed.

Now about 30% of males have a conviction, which I find bonkers in itself, and actually that legislation was intended to help people with convictions, so I wouldn't get too worried. There was, not that long ago, an attorney general with quite an eye-popping amount of speeding convictions. Employers - good ones at any rate - can and should take on people with relatively minor convictions without too much concern.

 

[shell07]

Usually you don't need to declare this one year after paying the fine and it's usually illegal to discriminate against someone on this basis. The exceptions will be very clearly laid out in say a job application, where there are some jobs in healthcare, law enforcement, security services, finance, public transport, working with animals, where you will be asked to declare all criminal convictions and cautions. In this scenario they will often quote "Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974" since that is the legislation that guides this area, so if that legislation is mentioned, then there is usually a clear statement that spent convictions must be disclosed.

Now about 30% of males have a conviction, which I find bonkers in itself, and actually that legislation was intended to help people with convictions, so I wouldn't get too worried. There was, not that long ago, an attorney general with quite an eye-popping amount of speeding convictions. Employers - good ones at any rate - can and should take on people with relatively minor convictions without too much concern.

Hi? Do you know the difference of railway act 1989? Im not sure if my case fall under this act or the byelaws im really confused

 

[island]

Hi? Do you know the difference of railway act 1989? Im not sure if my case fall under this act or the byelaws im really confused

It's on the letters you've received from the court. You posted these in post 65, which said it was a byelaw case.

 

[shell07]

This is the letter I received, should I just write that whenever i need to declare it?

 

[AlterEgo]

This is the letter I received, should I just write that whenever i need to declare it?

Yes.

 

[Pushpit]

This is the letter I received, should I just write that whenever i need to declare it?

If you have paid the fine, after 12 months from the sentence you no longer need to declare it, so in 11 months time now. It will be Spent, to use the terminology and for most jobs (etc) you no longer need to mention it, and the employer could be in trouble if they ask you about it. The exception will be if the form of employment, education or voluntary work requires disclosure even of Spent convictions. In these circumstances this should be carefully explained, with reference made to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 as amended.

 

[tonycockram]

This is the letter I received, should I just write that whenever i need to declare it?

Cover your address please!!!