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Caught using 60+ oyster

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helo123

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Hello, I was caught using my friends dads friends 60+ oyster, he had full knowledge that I had it. It was my only time using it as my oyster had been expired and the TFL website was down, I also had a normal oyster, but the credit finished and I had no cash on me to top it up in the station. A TFL officer approached me and asked me to hand over the oyster which I did and then proceeded to take down my details and told me that I would recieve a letter. This happened in St Pauls station. I am panicking a lot as I have not recieved a letter yet and dont know what will happen. Does anyone have any ideas or advice?
 
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You will have to wait for the letter from TfL to arrive.

Unfortunately, travelling on TfL when you cannot pay for it is an offence, and so is using a 60+ Oyster (and said over-60 may be in trouble too).

TfL policy is to prosecute, but they almost always charge you with not having a valid ticket, which is a minor offence and will result in a relatively small find and a conviction that is "spent" immediately. Sometimes they will let you off with a warning - whether their IT problems are leading them to be lenient I don't know.

For reference, you can also pay by debit/credit card on TfL.
 

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You will have to wait for the letter from TfL to arrive.

Unfortunately, travelling on TfL when you cannot pay for it is an offence, and so is using a 60+ Oyster (and said over-60 may be in trouble too).

TfL policy is to prosecute, but they almost always charge you with not having a valid ticket, which is a minor offence and will result in a relatively small find and a conviction that is "spent" immediately. Sometimes they will let you off with a warning - whether their IT problems are leading them to be lenient I don't know.

For reference, you can also pay by debit/credit card on TfL.
Would this offence show up on my DBS or affect employment in any way?
Is there any way to just pay the fine and not go to court?
 

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If they prosecute and they almost certainly will as TfL take misuse of 60+. Arms cery seriously then you will be found guilty and revives a fine from the court and yes you will have a Criminal Conviction and thus a Criminal record. they may choose to prosecute using a Single Justice Process where if you plead guilty then you won’t bpneed to attend court, however they could choose to summons you whereupon you must attend the court on the date and time of your case hearing
 

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Is there any way to just pay the fine and not go to court?

Sometimes a court will not require the defendant to appear in person if that person accepts the charge and is pleading guilty. You will be notified of the fine and associated charges & costs.

However, that still means that you will have a criminal record upon conviction. Whether that has to be declared depends on the actual charge and your own employer's policy.
 

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Would this offence show up on my DBS or affect employment in any way?
Most offences charged by TfL do not appear on a basic or standard DBS. An enhanced DBS check may show the information if the reviewing officer deems it material. As for your employment, it depends on your employer's policy. Some employers have ways of accessing criminal conviction information other than via DBS. If your terms of employment require you to declare criminal offences then you should do so. Failing to disclose something that ought to have been disclosed can often wind up a more serious matter than the thing you were meant to disclose.
Is there any way to just pay the fine and not go to court?
You may be able to plead guilty to the offence by post and they will then send you a fine to pay. You won't know whether this option is available until they send you the court paperwork. You'll still get a criminal conviction this way.
 

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Is there any way to just pay the fine and not go to court?
If you mean can you pay an out of court settlement and not be prosecuted and receive a conviction, the answer is no.

As @island has stated above if you are prosecuted using what is called the Single Justice Procedure Notice, which is what normally happens then everything can be dealt with by post if you plead guilty. The court will write to you to tell you how much the fine is but even though you don't have to attend in person it is still a criminal conviction.
 
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