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Cashing Buffer Puffer 12.0 ( WAS London Tomorrow - Help!)

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I have a day in London tomorrow from 9am and am looking for something to do. I dont want to travel to far and want to rely on my Oyster card. I would like to try and use my oyster like a capital rover card.

For instance i would like to cover the line to Heathrow and some other branches. I would like to cover both Windsor branches, maybe Greenford etc.

Any suggestions for where i can go or what of interest there may be to travel on or see?

thanks!
 
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Firstly I would suggest not using Oyster and buying a day travelcard, yes it is more expensive, until the Oyster system decides to link up journeys and charges you a max fare for breaching a time limit.

Greenford is included within the zones, Heathrow via the Piccy line is included, but Heathrow Connect is only upto Hayes, Heathrow Express is excluded. Option is to get a BZ6 to Heathrow stations if you want to do the tunnel from the GWML.

Windsor lines are harder as the two Windsor stations are not in the same group (so no BZ6 to Windsor Stations, where you can go out via Slough and back into London via Staines).

As for things to do, are you more into unit bashing or route coverage?
 

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I have a day in London tomorrow from 9am and am looking for something to do. I dont want to travel to far and want to rely on my Oyster card. I would like to trry and use my oyster like a capital rover card.

For instance i would like to cover the line to Heathrow and some other branches. I would like to cover both Windsor branches, maybe Greengord etc.

Any suggestions for where i can go or what of interest there may be to travel on or see?

thanks!

There is this with class 20s http://www.pathfindertours.co.uk/index.php/tour-calendar-reader/events/the-buffer-puffer-120.html

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There is 'daily price capping' on PAYG Oyster, so you should end up paying no more than a one day travelcard for the zones you travel in.

Having said that, I've seen others report that Oyster can get confused if you do the non-typical-passenger thing of travelling from A to B, not leaving the station, then back to A. If you have only touched in at A, and are then ticket checked while you're travelling back to A some time later, then questions might be asked, and it might be assumed you've not properly touched out / in at your remote destination.

Also, I may be stating the obvious here, but you mention going to Windsor - I trust you're aware that (with a few exceptions) Oyster is not valid, either in PAYG or Travelcard mode, at stations outside Greater London / the London fare zones (there are bits of the network that are in TfL zones that are outside administrative London)

The last stations within the London zones towards Windsor are Feltham (SWT) and West Drayton (FGW). I suspect if you turned up at Windsor (or had your ticket checked west of Feltham) and only had a PAYG Oyster - even if you had correctly touched in at Waterloo - then you may risk a penalty fare.

You can (before boarding, from a staffed ticket office) buy a "boundary zone 6" to anywhere you like ticket, but I'm not sure how this works in practice with PAYG Oyster - I suspect you might have to get off at Feltham and beep your Oyster card so it registers the journey from wherever to zone 6.

If you do it with a paper travelcard and a boundary zone 6 ticket, you don't need to get off the train at the boundary station and not sure you even need to travel on a train that stops there.
 

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Firstly I would suggest not using Oyster and buying a day travelcard, yes it is more expensive, until the Oyster system decides to link up journeys and charges you a max fare for breaching a time limit.

Greenford is included within the zones, Heathrow via the Piccy line is included, but Heathrow Connect is only upto Hayes, Heathrow Express is excluded. Option is to get a BZ6 to Heathrow stations if you want to do the tunnel from the GWML.

Windsor lines are harder as the two Windsor stations are not in the same group (so no BZ6 to Windsor Stations, where you can go out via Slough and back into London via Staines).

As for things to do, are you more into unit bashing or route coverage?

Pottering really. I would like to travel down some lines i haven't used and maybe travel on a few different types of units


is this the same tour we covered as a forum meet?
 

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Pottering really. I would like to travel down some lines i haven't used and maybe travel on a few different types of units



is this the same tour we covered as a forum meet?

I think Pathfinders do a different buffer puffer tour every year around London, so this year is around SWT land with some FGW thrown in.

If you do it with a paper travelcard and a boundary zone 6 ticket, you don't need to get off the train at the boundary station and not sure you even need to travel on a train that stops there.

The train doesn't have to stop at the boundary station if you have a paper ticket & BZ6 ticket, for example Gatwick Express branded services, if you fancy some 442 action
 
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Pottering really. I would like to travel down some lines i haven't used and maybe travel on a few different types of units



is this the same tour we covered as a forum meet?

Yeah it is a Buffer Puffer tour like last year although a different route.
 

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The 90 out of Liverpool Street to Stratford and back can be quite fun, if you like loco hauled stuff.
 

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Haven't you got a Network Railcard?

If so it will be cheaper to buy a paper travelcard as you can get a discount on that but not on Oyster PAYG.
 

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The 90 out of Liverpool Street to Stratford and back can be quite fun, if you like loco hauled stuff.
Would have suggested that but I don't believe they're running over weekends for a while due to engineering works. Was planning to be on one myself Sunday :(
 

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now to sort out some tickets and an itinerary! any ideas? ;)
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
I decided to follow the 20 tour - it turned into a 16 train/tube odyssey through London commuter land! Pictures will go on Flickr in Due course
 
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