• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Cascaded 80x

Status
Not open for further replies.

Fyldeboy

Member
Joined
29 Jan 2020
Messages
171
Location
Swansea
There seems to be a lot of talk elsewhere about the folly of GWR having so many 80x 5-car sets, suggesting 9 cars woud be preferable in so many cases.

How'bout the excess 5-cars are merged into 8/9 car sets. This would need construction of a small number of coaches BUT would release a large number of 'power cars' (DPTS or DPTF). Purely speculative but could they form the 'pointy bits' behind a new XC fleet? New coaches to XC standard would be required (ie not whole trains) and if this were to come to fruition then a common fleet along just about all their route (ECML/TPE/AWC/GWR) would simplify operations and maintainance.

Lets say there are 40 5-cars in GW that are not ideal for purpose, they could form 20 8-cars and transfer 40 DPTS/F to XC. XC probably need 30 proper length sets, but the biggest contributor to the cost would be the DPTS/F as their maintainance will form a key part of the contract.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

JonathanH

Veteran Member
Joined
29 May 2011
Messages
23,323
Ripping up the IET contracts to do what you suggest would be nigh on impossible. They tightly constrain what all parties do with the units over the 27.5 year period of the agreements.
 

Fyldeboy

Member
Joined
29 Jan 2020
Messages
171
Location
Swansea
I have heard the contracts are 'troublesome' but looking at non 800 rolling stock, do we really expect todays 195s to be operated by the same TOCs in 25 years time?

Maybe GBR would have an effect in interchangability
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top