Cancelled Trains

[jamesst]

Not sure if this is posted in the correct part but here goes...
When a train is cancelled mid journey how are the platform information boards/ announcements at stations further along the trains intended route updated to reflect this? Or is this done in conjunction with the signalling?
Also if the train was due to pass from one signal boxes control to another is it just updated automatically or as simple as a phone call?
Hope this makes sense!

 

[rail-britain]

The expected time simply shows cancelled
Once the departure time has passed the train no longer shows

 

[ainsworth74]

The expected time simply shows cancelled
Once the departure time has passed the train no longer shows

I think they meant what method is used to update the boards to show cancelled not how the information is conveyed to passengers

 

[Cherry_Picker]

For the second part of your question, usually a phonecall or a pager message in my experience. I would presume that some kind of priority email gets used these days too, though I havent seen that myself.

 

[mallard]

The expected time simply shows cancelled
Once the departure time has passed the train no longer shows

Or in some cases, it simply disappears with no announcement or acknowledgement.

 

[Lampshade]

Or in some cases, it simply disappears with no announcement or acknowledgement.

Or at Wakefield Kirkgate, it's announced anyway and a completely different service turns up

 

[tirphil]

Alterations to services, capes (cancellations), pines (service terminating mid journey) used to be 'wired out' with the instruction 'walnut rede' (inform all concerned) at the bottom. As someone else has said, probably email now, and possibily not with the old railway terminology either.

And wires weren't always issued by control. A yardmaster could issue a wire stating 'byrag' (booked traffic only) and a 'gosling' (all traffic by prior arrangement only) depending on freight traffic flows. A flurry of telephone calls between yards affected, control and TOPS usually followed!

 

[causton]

Alterations to services, capes (cancellations), pines (service terminating mid journey) used to be 'wired out' with the instruction 'walnut rede' (inform all concerned) at the bottom. As someone else has said, probably email now, and possibily not with the old railway terminology either.

I believe 'capes' and 'pines' are still used today - seen it in railway documents recently - but never heard of the 'walnut rede'! :P

 

[Cherry_Picker]

"Caped" is a term which is definitely still in everyday use, as is "cape it" when somebody is giving the instruction to cancel a train. I doubt very much it gets used in email or on pager messages, but in radio and and face to face.

 

[mailbyrail]

A great conversation overheard recently between two traincrew in a public coach saying they had been delayed the previous day having to stop to knock a cripple out.
I don't think some of the other passengers realised that customer relations could sink to such a low level, they certainly didn't understand the actual meaning!!

 

[Marton]

Or at Wakefield Kirkgate, it's announced anyway and a completely different service turns up

Just like at Middlesbrough where trains are usually announced after they have left and the next one arrived.

Always sad to see someone on the Esk Valley/Nunthorpe services who wants to go to Hartlepool, Darlo or Saltburn.

 

[es373]

And for LUL, the dot matrix systems are set up via the signalling computer with appropriate diagram.

 

[CliveJones]

Not sure if this is posted in the correct part but here goes...
When a train is cancelled mid journey how are the platform information boards/ announcements at stations further along the trains intended route updated to reflect this? Or is this done in conjunction with the signalling?

It probably varies from area to area. In the case of London Midland stations in the Birmingham area for example, alterations are fed into the CIS system (which controls the announcements and screens) via a computer interface in the Control Room. Control also send an email to relevant stations to inform the staff. They will also set the display to "Delayed" if a train is stuck to avoid the problem of incremental delays.