Can I excess to a TOC specific ticket after completing the outbound journey?

[XmaX]

I commute Cambridge-London daily, normally with a a regular off-peak day return which costs me £18.85 with a railcard, and then walk to work near Euston. However, on days when I need to use tube in London for whatever reason, I instead get the GA-only off-peak day Z1-6 travelcard for £19 (recent price increase from £16.60).

Right now, I'm on a Thameslink train to STP and realised I might have to do some journeys within London and a thought occurred to me - can I potentially excess my ticket to the travelcard, after already completing my outbound journey? I'm assuming no, but wouldn't mind being surprised!

 

[Alex365Dash]

Right now, I'm on a Thameslink train to STP and realised I might have to do some journeys within London and a thought occurred to me - can I potentially excess my ticket to the travelcard, after already completing my outbound journey?

Might be worth mentioning that TOC and route restrictions only apply to outboundary Travelcards outside of the Travelcard area - you can use Thameslink services in Zones 1-6, just not between Hadley Wood and Cambridge.

I don’t believe you can excess from a TOC only restriction in any case.

 

[Haywain]

I commute Cambridge-London daily, normally with a a regular off-peak day return which costs me £18.85 with a railcard, and then walk to work near Euston. However, on days when I need to use tube in London for whatever reason, I instead get the GA-only off-peak day Z1-6 travelcard for £19 (recent price increase from £16.60).

Right now, I'm on a Thameslink train to STP and realised I might have to do some journeys within London and a thought occurred to me - can I potentially excess my ticket to the travelcard, after already completing my outbound journey? I'm assuming no, but wouldn't mind being surprised!

You cannot excess to a Travelcard, and you cannot excess to a GA only ticket after using another TOC to travel.

 

[XmaX]

You cannot excess to a Travelcard, and you cannot excess to a GA only ticket after using another TOC to travel.

Yeah, that's exactly what I assumed, thanks.

Is there any particular reason why you cannot excess to a day travelcard though?

 

[Watershed]

Yeah, that's exactly what I assumed, thanks.

Is there any particular reason why you cannot excess to a day travelcard though?

Because there are no procedures to do so, and there is no entitlement to do so under the NRCoT.

It's different to, for instance, travelling via London on a not via London ticket. In that case, the NRCoT give you the right to just pay the excess.

 

[Haywain]

Is there any particular reason why you cannot excess to a day travelcard though?

An excess fare cannot be issued in the correct format for a Travelcard.

 

[Wallsendmag]

It’s specifically mentioned in Internal NRE that point to point tickets cannot be X/Sd to Travelcards