Cambridge v Oxford

[William3000]

Cambridge and Oxford are broadly similar sized cities yet Cambridge station is much busier than Oxford station. What could account for the significant discrepancies between passenger numbers at the two stations? Oxford being under 7 million and Cambridge approximately 11 million.

Cambridge is electrified and has more platforms but Oxford station is more centrally located and has a wider range of long distance destinations. Both have two routes into London and are a similar distance from the capital.

 

[aron2smith]

Oxford is a bit of a bottleneck on the network and tickets are considerably more expensive when comparing London to Oxford versus London to Cambridge despite being similar journey times. I think the other thing is trains to Cambridge are really frequent, Thameslink, slow and fast services out of King's Cross and Liverpool Street, both really busy stations. Oxford until 2016 only got trains from Paddington, while Marylebone can be quite a quiet station for a London Terminus. Also, don't underestimate the low quality of Crosscountry with it's ridiculously short but overcrowded trains making trains to Oxford from other regional towns and cities, less popular. Literally supressed demand.

By contrast, Cambridge has limited interaction with Crosscountry and regional trains on Greater Anglia to Norwich, Ipswich, Ely and King's Lynn are decent for the demand they get. For somewhere not on a mainline, it seems like everything meets in Cambridge, so that may be why too.

 

[Benjwri]

I would argue the location of Oxford Station and the high traffic levels making getting to it by bus a bit of a nightmare is a big contributor.

 

[cle]

Their economies. Oxford still has a very healthy economy - with plenty of activity in the tech, bio, education and publishing spaces, it's very enviable to almost anywhere else and growing well. BUT - Cambridge has just been a crazy exponential success and boom town.

Oxford is larger (population-wise) - but less wealthy as a whole, and has more of a blue collar / auto / industrial heritage. Which will impact the population vs rail demand proportion.

Cambridge was definitely sleepier previous (I would wager Oxford has more tourism) - especially until when the Cruisers were launched. Liverpool St services are slow.

Cambridge is a hub for the region, with plenty of terminating services and interchange. Oxford has some of this, but also Reading is nearby and a larger hub. Didcot is a railhead for going west, so takes some use.

Oxford's hinterland has more direct London services (Parkway + Cotswolds line) have London directs. Notably, Newmarket and Bury don't.

plus:
Oxford Tube -> big factor historically. And a far better drive to London, esp West/LHR/M25. Also to Birmingham.
Stansted access by rail may be a factor.

 

[Magdalia]

This is definitely one for looking at the numbers!

Top 5 destination pairs are not much different (these are one way flows from raildata):

Oxford: Paddington 1193k, Bicester Village 314k, Banbury 230k, Reading 208k, Didcot 172k.
Cambridge: Kings Cross 1420k, Ely 502k, St Pancras 322k, Stansted Airport 201k, Royston 150k.

But for destinations with flows 50-150k Oxford has just 3: Birmingham New Street (58k), Hanborough and Marylebone (55k).

On the other hand Cambridge has 17, including places like Waterbeach (92k), Newmarket (87k), Meldreth (67k), Audley End (67k), Shelford (61k) and Whittlesford (54k).

A lot more local commuters come to Cambridge on the train than Oxford.

 

[Trainbike46]

This is definitely one for looking at the numbers!

Top 5 destination pairs are not much different (these are one way flows from raildata):

Oxford: Paddington 1193k, Bicester Village 314k, Banbury 230k, Reading 208k, Didcot 172k.
Cambridge: Kings Cross 1420k, Ely 502k, St Pancras 322k, Stansted Airport 201k, Royston 150k.

But for destinations with flows 50-150k Oxford has just 3: Birmingham New Street (58k), Hanborough and Marylebone (55k).

On the other hand Cambridge has 17, including places like Waterbeach (92k), Newmarket (87k), Meldreth (67k), Audley End (67k), Shelford (61k) and Whittlesford (54k).

A lot more local commuters come to Cambridge on the train than Oxford.

I'm surprised Liverpool Street didn't make it into the top 5 destinations.

EWR will further improve the railconnections from both, but will do so sooner from Oxford than from Cambridge

 

[Benjwri]

I'm surprised Liverpool Street didn't make it into the top 5 destinations.

EWR will further improve the railconnections from both, but will do so sooner from Oxford than from Cambridge

I think this might be one of those Methodology things. According to the data Liverpool Street recovered at after covid in 21/22, then suddenly dropped to nearly Covid levels. Meanwhile St Pancras suddenly jumped to nearly 20x pre Covid levels. I wonder if something is being misattributed between the 3 terminals.

 

[Magdalia]

I'm surprised Liverpool Street didn't make it into the top 5 destinations.

I think this might be one of those Methodology things. According to the data Liverpool Street recovered at after covid in 21/22, then suddenly dropped to nearly Covid levels. Meanwhile St Pancras suddenly jumped to nearly 20x pre Covid levels.

Liverpool Street is shown as 53k, less than City Thameslink at 63k and only just ahead of Farringdon at 42k.

There has definitely been a methodology change since 2019.

On the Liverpool Street line Audley End is 184k and Whittlesford is 89k. My experience is that they generate more traffic on the Liverpool Street line than Cambridge.

 

[Falcon1200]

Cambridge needs a better train service so that people can leave the place more easily......

 

[dk1]

Cambridge has a booming economy with some excellently well paid jobs in the biomedical campus around Addenbrooke’s and Papworth hence Cambridge South station. Add that to the never ending tourist industry and the easy commuting to London and it’s not difficult to see why it’s so successful.

 

[higthomas]

A lot more local commuters come to Cambridge on the train than Oxford.

This seems to be a large part of it. I think part of that is that the buses to Oxford are much better, even from towns with a train service; take Bicester or Didcot for example, whereas coming into Cambridge all the places with a train line have a fairly pitiful bus service.

The other part is just that more of Cambridges major commuter areas have train lines it feels.

 

[Bald Rick]

The M40.

 

[dk1]

Having driven trains into Cambridge since 2004 it’s phenomenal the growth that I’ve seen. My mate was brought up in Shelford and even 10 years ago was amazed at the growth and difference from his days there in the 80s & 90s. It just goes from strength to strength. The retail around the station is also on another level to even the 2010s these days.

 

[aron2smith]

I'm surprised Liverpool Street didn't make it into the top 5 destinations.

EWR will further improve the railconnections from both, but will do so sooner from Oxford than from Cambridge

I guess because Cambridge to King's Cross has regular services that run non-stop whereas to Liverpool Street it stops at literally everything. It's quite a bit quicker to King's Cross than Liverpool Street, about half hour faster! and the cost is the same regardless of which terminus people go to. I live in Cheshunt, so on the West Anglia Main Line, I've noticed the train tends to pick a sizable number of people at most stops so by the time it reaches me, the train is almost full if at certain times of day if I take that service.

 

[Zomboid]

Cambridge has a booming economy with some excellently well paid jobs in the biomedical campus around Addenbrooke’s and Papworth hence Cambridge South station. Add that to the never ending tourist industry and the easy commuting to London and it’s not difficult to see why it’s so successful.

I think a fair amount of that could be said to apply to Oxford, too.

There's not a whole lot of that kind of industry especially close to either station, though.

 

[Brubulus]

I guess because Cambridge to King's Cross has regular services that run non-stop whereas to Liverpool Street it stops at literally everything. It's quite a bit quicker to King's Cross than Liverpool Street, about half hour faster! and the cost is the same regardless of which terminus people go to. I live in Cheshunt, so on the West Anglia Main Line, I've noticed the train tends to pick a sizable number of people at most stops so by the time it reaches me, the train is almost full if at certain times of day if I take that service.

Fares are usually lower for Liverpool street, Advances aren't available on the Kings Cross route and there are specific GA only tickets.

 

[dk1]

I think a fair amount of that could be said to apply to Oxford, too.

There's not a whole lot of that kind of industry especially close to either station, though.

Both Addenbrooke’s and Papworth are directly beside Cambridge South station.

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Tourism for Cambridge which seems further away for historical reasons isn’t so important now that so much leisure and retail is located around the station.

 

[Benjwri]

Advances aren't available on the Kings Cross route and there are specific GA only tickets.

Advances are available on the Kings Cross route.

 

[Zomboid]

Tourism for Cambridge which seems further away for historical reasons isn’t so important now that so much leisure and retail is located around the station

Whereas Oxford station is in a pretty tatty part of the city. And Parkway is great for the A34 and Kidlington (and not bad for Woodstock/ Blenheim if you fancy the local bus service), but not adjacent to any of the major draws for employment or tourism. If/when the Cowley branch is opened, Littlemore station will be at the Oxford Technology Park, which sounds like it might appeal...

Some of the high tech industry stuff is a bit more spread out - there's the nuclear fusion place at Culham, and Harwell campus is near Didcot. Plus F1 teams at Grove (Williams), Enstone (Alpine) and Banbury (Haas) but that's all Oxfordshire, rather than Oxford itself. I have the impression that Cambridge is a bit more centralised.

 

[dk1]

Whereas Oxford station is in a pretty tatty part of the city. And Parkway is great for the A34 and Kidlington (and not bad for Woodstock/ Blenheim if you fancy the local bus service), but not adjacent to any of the major draws for employment or tourism. If/when the Cowley branch is opened, Littlemore station will be at the Oxford Technology Park, which sounds like it might appeal...

Some of the high tech industry stuff is a bit more spread out - there's the nuclear fusion place at Culham, and Harwell campus is near Didcot. Plus F1 teams at Grove (Williams), Enstone (Alpine) and Banbury (Haas) but that's all Oxfordshire, rather than Oxford itself. I have the impression that Cambridge is a bit more centralised.

See I was never that impressed with Oxford. Was to the point of disappointing if I’m honest.

Cambridge seems to ooze prosperity.

 

[Brubulus]

Whereas Oxford station is in a pretty tatty part of the city. And Parkway is great for the A34 and Kidlington (and not bad for Woodstock/ Blenheim if you fancy the local bus service), but not adjacent to any of the major draws for employment or tourism. If/when the Cowley branch is opened, Littlemore station will be at the Oxford Technology Park, which sounds like it might appeal...

Some of the high tech industry stuff is a bit more spread out - there's the nuclear fusion place at Culham, and Harwell campus is near Didcot. Plus F1 teams at Grove (Williams), Enstone (Alpine) and Banbury (Haas) but that's all Oxfordshire, rather than Oxford itself. I have the impression that Cambridge is a bit more centralised.

Cambridge has ended up with a ring of science parks on the edge of the green belt, though the original one is on the edge of the city and near Cambridge North station. Cambridge station also sees substantial school and college traffic.

 

[Zomboid]

See I was never that impressed with Oxford. Was to the point of disappointing if I’m honest.

Cambridge seems to ooze prosperity.

A colleague of mine from Cambridge tells me that it doesn't have the same Town & Gown thing that Oxford does (there's the high tech and academia stuff, but there's also a long history of building cars that continues with the mini factory).

So bits of Oxford (especially the north) are very wealthy, but other parts are decidedly less affluent.

 

[A S Leib]

I think Reading is a relatively close, large alternative to Oxford for companies (especially in the technology sector, I think?), beyond the scale of anywhere between Cambridge and London despite e.g. Airbus in Stevenage, so there might be less of an incentive to be based in Oxford itself rather than in other large towns compared to Cambridge.

 

[William3000]

Very interesting replies - thanks everyone for their thought-provoking and informed opinions.

 

[magpiespy]

Cambridge needs a better train service so that people can leave the place more easily......

Having lived in both cities (albeit at the end of the last century), I am inclined to agree with this assessment!
I will also put a word in for the bus services from Oxford, which I used exclusively to travel to London when I lived there.
In more modern times, the overcrowded CrossCountry services at Oxford must surely put people off from travelling.

 

[181]

The M40.

Is that better than the M11?

Oxford station is more centrally located

It's nearer the city centre (where inbound passengers are likely to want to go), but very much towards one side of the built-up area, on the side which mean that from much of the city people going to London have to travel some distance in the wrong direction to get to it, whereas the bus passes through eastern Oxford. Presumably Oxford Parkway takes some London passengers away from the main station too (I think my friend in Barton tends to drive there to go to London).

I've sometimes thought that somewhere just east of Magdalen Bridge would be the ideal location for Oxford station, apart form the fact that the railway doesn't go there.

 

[JamesT]

Is that better than the M11?

It takes you North as well as to London.

It's nearer the city centre (where inbound passengers are likely to want to go), but very much towards one side of the built-up area, on the side which mean that from much of the city people going to London have to travel some distance in the wrong direction to get to it, whereas the bus passes through eastern Oxford. Presumably Oxford Parkway takes some London passengers away from the main station too (I think my friend in Barton tends to drive there to go to London).

I've sometimes thought that somewhere just east of Magfdalen Bridge would be the ideal location for Oxford station, apart form the fact that the railway doesn't go there.

If you get a Time Machine and take yourself back to the 19th century: https://southoxfordhistory.org.uk/i...s-history/the-coming-of-the-railway-to-oxford

The first Bill in 1837 proposed that the railway should run into the city approximately parallel with the Cowley Road, terminating in a field adjacent to Magdalen Bridge, near where the junction between Cowley Road and Marston Street is now.

 

[artemic]

The Oxford Tube provides some serious competition to rail on the Oxford - London corridor too, which I suspect has an impact on rail ridership - a brief search suggested ~13,000 seats per day, 24/7/365.
Coaches every 15-20 minutes to Victoria which are also considerably cheaper than GWR - plus, much more frequent than Cambridge's National Express every few hours.

Edit: while I'm sure 20 million passengers a year would be impressive, that was definitely a mis-copy

 

[bspahh]

In 1996, I got a job on the Oxford Science Park at the South of the city. My girlfriend had just moved to Stratford upon Avon, so I tried commuting from there by train and Brompton. I could get trains that would get me to work at 8am or 10am. I lasted a fortnight and bought a car. After a year, I bought a house in Abingdon which was a couple of miles from Radley station at one and and work was a couple of miles from Oxford station at the other end. Cycling was just as quick. Buses were OK, but had a load of speed bumps.

After a couple of years, I got relocated to Cambridge, and bought a house in Ely. Commuting by train would have been possible for a couple of years. Then my employer moved to Granta Park, where the selling point was it was close enough to Cambridge to have a CB1 post code, an 01223 telephone number, and was far from Cambridge itself. Commuting by public transport would have taken just under 2 hours each way by public transport, or 30-40 minutes by car. After a few years, I changed job to the North of Cambridge, at the midpoint between Waterbeach and Cambridge stations. Commuting by train was possible with a Brompton, but not really with a full size bike. I had a year where I walked to and from the stations, which was good for my waistline, but meant walking for 80 minutes each way on top of 20 minutes for the train. When Cambridge North opened, that came down to 45 minutes to walk each way, so it was still slower than driving, but nicer. Then Covid happened, and now I can work from home 98% of the time, which is a much nicer commute.

Commuting from Ely into Cambridge is a realistic proposition to a number of the main employment areas, where you have a choice of 8 car electric trains, or Greater Anglia ones where the off peak tickets are quite a bit cheaper. When I moved to Cambridge in the late 90s, the service to Newmarket was really poor. The frequency has improved, but not enough to attract me to rely on it. House prices near the railway to the South of Cambridge are quite a bit higher than to the North and East.

If I was moving to work in Cambridge now in my 30s, then I would be priced out of Ely, and would need to be looking in Littleport and Downham Market. When things work well, that doesn't take that much more time, but there is much more chance of long delays when the trains are delayed.

The train services have improved around Oxford since I tried using them in the 90s, but not by much, and certainly not from Stratford upon Avon, where you would now need to change trains to get to Oxford.

 

[JamesT]

The Oxford Tube provides some serious competition to rail on the Oxford - London corridor too, which I suspect has an impact on rail ridership - a brief search suggested ~13,000 seats per day.
Coaches every 15-20 minutes to Victoria which are also considerably cheaper than GWR - plus, much more frequent than Cambridge's National Express every few hours.

There also used to be a competing coach service run by Oxford Bus Company called the X90. But that was withdrawn in 2020 after the Marylebone route opened. They cited a 35% drop in numbers since 2015. Stagecoach’s Oxford Tube may have picked up some of those passengers, but I’m not sure where that would put the numbers now. Relatively recently they added an extended route starting in West Oxfordshire. I don’t know if that’s a sign of a successful growing operation, or trying to pick up more passengers to fill empty seats.