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Cambridge to Kentish Town commuting

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AeroSpace

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Hi all,

I'm probably going to be commuting from Cambridge to the Kentish Town/Gospel Oak area for a couple of months this summer. What are my options?

I've been looking at a Cambridge to Z1-6 monthly season for £489.30. Will this also give me unlimited Underground travel during the day?

Thanks
 
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AeroSpace

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Great, thanks.

Does it let me use Thameslink from St. Pancras to Kentish Town rather than messing about on the Northern Line?
 

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Yes, you can get unlimited train (inside zone 1-6 and between Finsbury Park/Hadley Wood and Cambridge), bus, tube, DLR and tram travel :)

I WAS going to suggest the line2line link between Hatfield and St Albans - but that costs MORE than the price you quote for a Cambridge - Z1-6 season! Bit silly :P
 

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A Cambridge - London season is £384 a month. If your travel within London is to be mainly Kings X/St Pancras - Kentish Town/Gospel Oak, you may find this season plus Oyster pay-as-you-go is cheaper.
 

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If you will be requiring a train+bus combination (it depends on where exactly in that area you are going to), and/or making additional journeys around London, and/or also using the ticket at weekends, then a Travelcard may be cheaper.

If not, and it's just a basic 5 day a week requirement for simple journeys to Kentish Town, PAYG is £1.90 per single (same fare at any time according to TfL's single fare finder) to Kentish Town, assuming a 5-day week, that's 10 journeys per week, assuming 9 weeks then that would be a total of £171 for 9 weeks for your travel between St Pancras/King's Cross & Kentish Town, in addition to a Cambridge to London Terminals ticket for 9 weeks (1 month 30 days, assuming July/August which have 31 days in each month) priced at £768 would give your total travel for 9 weeks of £171+£768 =£939.

But a Travelcard for 9 weeks (1 month 30 days) is £978.50, so the potential saving is £39.50.

But that extra £39.50 does give you a lot of extra validity and you don't have to worry about PAYG balance etc.

(Note that the calculations above assume 9 weeks, but for a season to last 9 weeks, the price varies depending on the number of days in a month, so if you started in June you have to pay for an extra day on the season. I also assume you start work on a Monday and finish on a Friday).
 

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Thanks guys for your input. It looks like CBG-KGX + oyster payg will be the best option for me.

Anyone know how bad the crowding is on peak services? Which ones have been upgraded to 12 car? I'd probably be getting the 7:45am into London and the 5:45pm out of London.
 

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Thanks guys for your input. It looks like CBG-KGX + oyster payg will be the best option for me.

Anyone know how bad the crowding is on peak services? Which ones have been upgraded to 12 car? I'd probably be getting the 7:45am into London and the 5:45pm out of London.

Just your luck! The 7:45 service into London is 12 cars. And so is the 17:44 service (to Cambridge + Kings Lynn, not Peterborough!) :)

The timetable shows how many carriages each service should be above the timetable, next to the [1] denoting first class is available. Here's a screenshot or 2 of the relevant timetables...
http://vvcap.net/db/9FzRNL1CF_aBBuEXiqAs.htp
http://vvcap.net/db/u54dQa5M5-3mOmcnOswo.htp

I can only speak facts, not experience, however, so I have no idea how crowded those 12 carriages will be...
 

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I can only speak facts, not experience, however, so I have no idea how crowded those 12 carriages will be...
I have no experience of these specific trains, but similar experiences on other lines would make me unsurprised if the least busy carriage had about 10 people in it, while the busiest could well be like a sardine tin!

I recall getting off a 2x185 (6 coaches) at Leeds, and seeing huge queues surround the doors, hundreds of people trying to cram on at the front. I asked a passenger with a bike (who was standing back, not trying to get on) if he wished to travel on that train, he said yes but that he felt he had no chance. I said, go to the back and you'll get the bike on, AND a seat. I was right, he did. Yet the front had people packed in to the vestibules so densely that people trying to board at the last minute couldn't physically get on those doors.

365s don't have corridor connections and the fastest trains are non-stop to Cambridge (or at least to Letchworth at peak times) so if you can find a quiet carriage, people can't move down into it from the other units, only within that unit.

Someone may be able to advise on how busy each individual unit may be on a particular service.
 

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From getting the 0748 from the adjacent platform (NXEA service) I'd say that you're not guaranteed a seat on the 0745 FCC from Cambridge- there are people standing in all three units every morning. it isn't as bad as it was when it was 8 cars (and then it occasionally ran as only 4). It then must get busier- it has a stop at Royston.

Z1-6 travelcard exceptions: River services, HS1, Heathrow Express plus Connect between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow
 
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