A station without a car park ? How many stations, particularly newly opened ones on "out of town" brownfield sites, have no car park ? I am saying it is authoritarian because they are deliberately making it awkward to use a car to catch a train, i.e. they are being anti car.
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Fine, use Voi if you have to (not that I've had massively good experiences with the Voi or Bolt services I used elsewhere), just make sure there's a high number of hire bikes very obvious to people parking at the P&R, and at the stations.
The station is not in central Cambridge it is in an out of town location
The station is in an out of town location, thus the "valuable narrow street space" argument is not relevant.
What you are basically saying is they are trying to force people onto public transport to get to and from the station, in my view that is authoritarian (and unnecessary in an out of town location) and why the station deserves to fail.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/authoritarian (I thought it the most appropriate dictionary to use
)In what way is not providing a parking space "demanding that people obey completely". And if that fits your interpretation of "refusing to allow them freedom to act as they wish" you must suffer terribly under the yoke of anybody who ever says 'no' to you.
I will avoid diverting this thread into the political area of what is authoritarian and confine myself to saying I think it is authoritarian.https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/authoritarian (I thought it the most appropriate dictionary to use
Meaning of authoritarian in English
In what way is not providing a parking space "demanding that people obey completely". And if that fits your interpretation of "refusing to allow them freedom to act as they wish" you must suffer terribly under the yoke of anybody who ever says 'no' to you.
It's been noted upthread that you can still drive to Cambridge South to drop off or pickup, and that alternative parking options are available.
What you are actually doing is giving people options to get to the station without a car, not just public transport but also foot and bicycle. You are ignoring the simple fact that one can get picked up / dropped off by car anyway.
The car park occupies space that would otherwise be taken up by the places those people are walking to/from.
I won't get into the continued misinformation about what authoritarianism is because I think that has been covered amply by others. But I will address your comment about them making it awkward.
Good!
Cambridge doesn't have one centre any more, it is a multi-nodal city. It is only shoppers and tourists that want to get to and from the old town centre. The Biomedical Campus, with more than 20k employees, plus lots of hospital visitors, is one of those nodes.
The narrow street space is relevant because the main routes in and out of Cambridge are also narrow street space. For the Biomedical Campus that's Hills Road/Babraham Road and Trumpington Road/Shelford Road. If you want to see how congested they get, then look at the Stagecoach bus timetables and see how long they take to cover very short distances.
The Biomedical Campus is not a brown field site, it is a green belt site. This statement demonstrates your ignorance and prejudice regarding the Biomedical Campus.
It isn't authoritarian, it is democratic. I grew up in Cambridge, compared with when I was a child, the City is 50% bigger, but with almost no increase in road space since our bypasses were constructed in the 1970s. Most of that growth has been in the last 20 years, when Cambridge has had increased traffic congestion and sacrificed lots of green belt land, including what is now the Biomedical Campus. Until now, local democracy has decided, mainly through the planning system, that cars will be discouraged and cycles encouraged, in order to deliver economic growth without sacrificing the essence of what Cambridge is.
If you don't put any car parking in then it's clear to everyone – don't drive to this station, there's nowhere to park. If you put some car parking in then you need to put enough car parking in, or else you cause problems for people who drive to the station expecting to be able to park but then find the parking is full. And providing enough parking to meet the potential demand of a new parkway station with fast trains to London would require a lot of parking, and would generate a large volume of additional traffic on the approach roads, which they are not set up to accommodate.
Cambridge North illustrates this point perfectly. It is at a point where consistently people park outside defined spaces on the verge in the car park or on the traffic routes because it no longer has sufficient capacity. Norths location probably means it can better handle car traffic to it than South could - and I say that as someone who lives south of Cambridge but would say North is more convenient.
Cambridge North is close to the Milton junction on the A14. It is particularly good for villages out towards Newmarket.
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You misspelt pro human. I pity you genuinely believing that driving is freedom rather than slavery, but alas, that is what the most effective propaganda campaign in human history will do.
Cambridge South is many things, but "out of town, brownfield site" it absolutely is not! There are three hospitals (soon to be five!), and a multitude of other pharmaceutical and healthcare research facilities, including AstraZeneca, and a large NHS blood and transplant research facility, among others.
The local residents were not very happy either, especially the initial proposals that had the road access on the Hobsons Park side.
There is compensation land added to Hobsons Park at the south end, though a lot of the good work done in creating it may get wrecked by East West Rail!
It's not. There's no space for car parking for rail users. This has already been explained quite a few times in the messages above yours.
The station itself is a inanimate object which is already in a finished state and open to the public. It cannot "fail" or "succeed", because it already exists, although the aims of its proponents can. Contrary to your opinion, the initial evidence suggests that its planning aims will succeed perfectly.
Nobody is charging you extra or trying to "force" you out if you would like to take a taxi or have a friend or relative give you a lift to or from the station, so this is also completely hyperbolic.
In this case, what they are wanting to do is reduce car traffic in the area around Cambridge South (by enabling inbound travel by rail). The last thing they want to do is to encourage people to drive to the new station.
The main roads to get to the Biomedical Campus - Trumpington Road (and Trumpington Street, which you can see the end of in the video which I posted, looking down towards the route to the Biomedical Campus, which is the second main road through Cambridge), leading into Long Road, Hills Road, which leads into the main road through Cambridge, which takes ages to get to the Biomedical Campus on by bus/car, Queen Edith’s Way, and the roads to the North and South of Mowbray Road, are still not that big, and are congested.
I assume there is some sarcasm here as the video seems to show almost all the cyclists riding on the carriageway and waiting at the traffic lights when required!
You’d probably hate to know that students at the University of Cambridge are forbidden from having a motor vehicle, unless they can get a licence from the University’s Motor Proctor for exceptional circumstances, those being medical reasons, or rarely being a member of a sports or other society which needs to travel far from Cambridge for training or matches, etc.. They’re also forbidden from living from more than 3 miles from the spire of Great St. Mary’s church in the centre of Cambridge (with the exception of Girton College), and they have to live in Cambridge a certain number of nights during term in order to be allowed to graduate - you have to fill out an Exeat form to apply for permission from your Tutor to stay overnight further than that from Cambridge. So they don’t need a motor vehicle anyway, because they aren’t allowed to live far away, or travel or stay far away, in any case. But this reduces the number of motor vehicles, and hence congestion, in Cambridge, since students make up a fairly large proportion of the people living there - around 20%, I believe.
It does happen amongst some of the cycling fraternity (I'm saying that as a local). It's why at green traffic lights I look around before setting off...
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