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Bus types on Stagecoach X services in Fife

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cambsy

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I’m up in Fife on Weds 9th Nov, and thinking of doing the £9.50 East Scotland Stagecoach day rider, which has got to be a great bargain.

What type of buses or coaches operate the X express services, from Edinburgh to Perth, and Glasgow to Halbeath etc?. Is the fleet around there decent or rickety and old? Is it mainly double or single deck?
 
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Its usually a Plaxton Panther LE (fantastic vehicle) on the X56 between Perth and Edinburgh. I've only ever seen the Elites on Glasgow routes. But my experience if those is not as good as the Perth route.
 

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Stagecoach have got a good long distance fleet, much of it only being a few years old. The regulars on the X51, X55 and X56 are Plaxton Panther LEs, I believe Fife is the only location you'll find those type of buses. All other routes will usually be Plaxton Elites, though some routes such as the X57 and X58 see a mix of both Panther LEs and Elites, and a couple of Panther LEs work early morning runs to Glasgow. It's also not uncommon to see a Panther LE on the 23 north of Perth.

The X52, being a lower priority route that only has two return trips a day, will see pretty much any type of bus, from ALX400s to E200MMCs to E300s to E400s to Panther LEs to Elites, just depends on what is free at Dunfermline depot. The only thing you won't see on that route is a Solo/Solo SR as they don't have a high enough top speed or capacity for an Edinburgh express.

The X37 also doesn't tend to use coaches, it's typically E400s and/or E300s on that route.

You'll also see deckers on the express routes fairly often - early morning workings on the X24/X27 from Glasgow to Dunfermline will sometimes use deckers, usually E400MMCs, and it's pretty common for peak time workings from Dunfermline to Kirkcaldy to use deckers. They usually put deckers on the X55 on rail strike days as well.

Personally, I much prefer Panther LEs to Elites. They're more comfortable, have better aircon and being partially low floor, don't feel anywhere near as cramped as an Elite - and of course are much more friendly to passengers with mobility issues. Plus, they have USB sockets that actually work most of the time, unlike the Elites.
 

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Slightly off topic overall but with this weekends changes, will there be fleet moves to make coaches more regular. Seems to have been multiple use of E200s on X57 recently
 

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Personally, I much prefer Panther LEs to Elites. They're more comfortable, have better aircon and being partially low floor, don't feel anywhere near as cramped as an Elite - and of course are much more friendly to passengers with mobility issues. Plus, they have USB sockets that actually work most of the time, unlike the Elites.
Last time I took a Fife Elite I tried to charge my phone in the three-prong socket. Doesn't work. I try to take the charger out - the socket comes with!
 

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Usually, a Plaxton elite on the Glasgow to Fife services with two rear axles. Decent enough but not the most exciting of coaches. Occasionally see E400s and E300s on the Glasgow runs. There was some ex National Express levantes kicking around too.
 

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The Glasgow services should be coaches 99% of the time, but as others have said there are Enviro 400MMCs running up and down on the X27 to/from Kirkcaldy.

Sometimes you’ll get a regular bus on the X24 to St. Andrews (once seen an Enviro 300 on that, on a strike day!)
 

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Service changes are tomorrow: X4 and X37 are both gone.

* Panther LEs : X51, X55, X56 and X61
* B9: X60
* B11 and B13: Rest of the network.
* Enviro 400MMC could appear on X60 or X27

X52 has Rennies running stuff so you could get anything.
 

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Service changes are tomorrow: X4 and X37 are both gone.

* Panther LEs : X51, X55, X56 and X61
* B9: X60
* B11 and B13: Rest of the network.
* Enviro 400MMC could appear on X60 or X27

X52 has Rennies running stuff so you could get anything.
The X58 and X60 will now interwork so both will be operated by the two axle B11Rs. The only B9Rs at EScot are with Perth and Rennies.
 

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The X58 and X60 will now interwork so both will be operated by the two axle B11Rs. The only B9Rs at EScot are with Perth and Rennies.

Thats it, I keep on thinking of the old design numbers. Every thing new is now B11 - two axle, three axle.
 

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I used to really enjoy a ride on the tri-axel Scania OmniLink Stagecoach used on the Edinburgh - Dunfermline route, really nice buses.
 

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I used to really enjoy a ride on the tri-axel Scania OmniLink Stagecoach used on the Edinburgh - Dunfermline route, really nice buses.
There was always something going on with the air con/heating, some of them were like greenhouses in the summer!
 

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Just a quick question here. A comment on Facebook stated that it's getting common for E300s to operate journeys on the Dundee and St Andrews to Edinburgh journeys; is this due to Stagecoach not having enough coaches for all the journeys they're operating?
 

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I have seen this happen more often recently. Happens on Glasgow services too, though last few times its been a more comfortable E400MMC.

Outwith Fife, the X7 service is made up with E300s and Interdecks.
 
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