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There’s some really stupid stuff happening at the moment, not least the money being spent on DRT schemes. Of course some will do I better than others but I can’t believe any will survive financially or provide value equivalent to a network of subsidised services.

The Derbyshire spending looks more targeted and hopefully they have identified some potential demand. I also think that sensible bus lane spending, like Reading, could be worthwhile as there is tangible benefit left after the money has been spent.

West Yorkshire looks plain daft- if there was a market here then First would fill it anyway- wouldn’t they?

As for Hertfordshire's 907 duplicating existing links......
 
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The DfT needs to get it through their thick skulls that what the bus industry needs is long term stability in funding, not constantly bidding for novelty pots of money which are shackled to very specific projects which will ultimately most likely be useless if they are successful in jumping through all the hoops to be awarded the funding in the first place (mentioning no Wests of England). With stability in funding, local authorities could then be periodically evaluated on how effectively they have spent their transport budgets and guided where they need to improve. The current situation of panic spending pots of money when they are available is ridiculous and wasteful.
 
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The BBC is reporting that BSIP funding can now be spent on subsidising existing services:

"The Department for Transport confirmed to the Local Democracy Reporting Service that it was willing to be flexible with how bus service improvement plan (BSIP) funding was used.
It also said that local government could decide if supporting bus services would provide best use for money and become sustainable long-term."
 
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An interesting story has been reported by the BBC in the West of England.

The buses Minister appears to be open to BSIP funds being used towards supported services.

The Department for Transport confirmed to the Local Democracy Reporting Service that it was willing to be flexible with how bus service improvement plan (BSIP) funding was used.

It also said that local government could decide if supporting bus services would provide best use for money and become sustainable long-term.

He said: "I would be happy to say to local councils, where they have got subsidised buses that they think are very important, to meet me halfway and we will see if we can go 50/50 to keep some of these routes going.

"But what I can't just do is give loads of money... over to just propping up a system that will stop when that money stops."

Like DRT schemes?

Edit: I see I was beaten to it.
 

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Still no news on Stoke-on-Trent BSIP (tried asking a First Potteries managing Facebook group, but replied basically comment)
 

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There’s some really stupid stuff happening at the moment, not least the money being spent on DRT schemes. Of course some will do I better than others but I can’t believe any will survive financially or provide value equivalent to a network of subsidised services.

DRT (demand responsive transport) is better for some areas in my opinion. If it's semi rural it's better to have a DRT than a twice a day bus service to a place no-one wants to go to in the first place.

The biggest problem with DRT, is the way they are marketed. They should be advertised as a cheaper taxi rather than a flexible bus. Personally I'd have no issue using one at 2am needing to get home after a night out, for say the third of the price of a taxi, rather than waiting an hour for a taxi and following the queue of taxis all heading to the same places. It's both quicker and cheaper so win/win.

It's a market they completely miss though. Same could be said for major employment sites where we have some shoehorned worker services, they could easily be replaced by DRT services for those employees taking them directly home since they know where they're going daily.

Instead they're used to only pick up people in villages with 30 people living there, which of course will never work.
 
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DRT (demand responsive transport) is better for some areas in my opinion. If it's semi rural it's better to have a DRT than a twice a day bus service to a place no-one wants to go to in the first place.
Bus services in places like this usually go to the nearest town. As do DRT services.

The biggest problem with DRT, is the way they are marketed. They should be advertised as a cheaper taxi rather than a flexible bus. Personally I'd have no issue using one at 2am needing to get home after a night out, for say the third of the price of a taxi, rather than waiting an hour for a taxi and following the queue of taxis all heading to the same places. It's both quicker and cheaper so win/win.
They're usually aiming them at people with few options, not at people who would otherwise pay for an unsubsidised service.

Hebden Bridge used to have 2 last buses from the railway station, meeting the last trains from Leeds and Manchester which would go anywhere the other half dozen local bus services did (which had all finished by then), but only if boarding at the station or at the next stop in the town centre. It appears not to have been well used and was withdrawn after about 5 years.

If all the taxis are going to the same places, normal bus services might be useful, but few companies seem willing to experiment with night services.
It's a market they completely miss though. Same could be said for major employment sites where we have some shoehorned worker services, they could easily be replaced by DRT services for those employees taking them directly home since they know where they're going daily.
They're usually not looking for extra markets as they're heavily subsided - they're trying to find a cost effective way to serve a small market. If too many people use them, there stops being sufficient capacity - few schemes are set up to provide extra capacity if they're very successful.
Instead they're used to only pick up people in villages with 30 people living there, which of course will never work.
Few other options seem to work well with them, either.
 

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Stoke-on-Trent area and Newcastle under Lyme has had reduced day/weekly tickets from 1st July. No update of service improvements yet
 

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In West Yorkshire there's a meeting this week to approve some of the BSIP improvements.

Agenda:

Briefing Paper:



The K3 is currently every half hour - I suspect the plan is to withdraw the similar half-hourly K2.

The K7 is currently every 20 minutes.
It's dropped over the last 20 years from every 12 to every 15 to every 20 minutes. There was a proposal from Transdev to link it to the Keighey-Skipton bus service about 5 years ago.

The Keighley Zone area was renamed to Keighley Local last weekend and the day tickets increased by 16% from £2.60/day when bought in packs of 10.

Mayor's Fares are the maximum £2 fare and £4.50 Day ticket within West Yorkshire.



The Aireline (60) is currently every 30 minutes Keighley - Shipley - Leeds - if it's not going to be every 20 minutes along the whole route, it'll worsen to 20/40 between Keighley and Shipley.



The 503 currently runs every 15 minutes during the day. The 501 runs less than half of the 2 journeys a hour in the evening and runs via Huddersfield Infirmary (they both pass the main Halifax Hospital). At the moment the only normal bus service between the two hospitals during the day is the hourly 343 which takes a much longer route.

I suspect they're planning to introduce 501s during the day. Hopefully they'll have enough drivers - the 503 was every 8 minutes during the day and every 20 minutes on a Sunday but the frequency was dropped due to shortage of drivers with other local routes having been dropped entirely.
The improvements in and around Keighley came in yesterday (though most of the timetable improvements started today).

The improvements around Elland are delayed.

The £1 in Keighley includes the Keighley local zone and further out to Airedale hospital. The map Transdev have provided omits the 502, though it's not clear if this is deliberate. It's also not clear if the only Keighley non school route not run by Transdev (the 903) will have lower fares.

Service 60 between Keighley and Shipley has gone to 40/20 during most of the day, so that's worse.

I've started a separate thread with more details.
 

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DRT (demand responsive transport) is better for some areas in my opinion. If it's semi rural it's better to have a DRT than a twice a day bus service to a place no-one wants to go to in the first place.
That rather depends on how many buses are in use on the DRT service, and what the chances are of each individual passengers request for transport is likely to be fulfilled. If the twice a day bus service uses one bus, using any more buses to fulfil the (probably geographically much wider) DRT requests is going to start racking up the costs but not necessarily gaining sufficient additional revenue to cover the additional costs.

The biggest problem with DRT, is the way they are marketed. They should be advertised as a cheaper taxi rather than a flexible bus. Personally I'd have no issue using one at 2am needing to get home after a night out, for say the third of the price of a taxi, rather than waiting an hour for a taxi and following the queue of taxis all heading to the same places. It's both quicker and cheaper so win/win.

It's a market they completely miss though.
I would suggest that using public subsidy to compete with the taxi industry in the nighttime is asking for trouble from that industry. DRT providers are going to steer well clear from that hornet's nest. With DRT services costing up to 3 times (or more) to provide per passenger journey than fixed route buses (albeit providing a better service for some), it is unlikely there is any win/win in this scenario.

If all the taxis are going to the same places, normal bus services might be useful, but few companies seem willing to experiment with night services.
It is not difficult to see why though. Great swathes of the country have no (or only specific case) evening/night bus services at all. The provision of any always takes at least one extra driver shift per bus (an evening/night driver cannot do a morning peak period trip that day or the next day). With passenger behavioural , taxi industry and driver recruitment issues, why would any except the most urban bother?
 

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If all the taxis are going to the same places, normal bus services might be useful, but few companies seem willing to experiment with night services.
Newport Transport and Transport for Wales did experiment for a year, replacing scheduled services with DRT after 1900 and on Sundays. It was under-resourced with just four buses and only one after 2200 Monday -Saturday. Five on Sundays I think.

I got to know the drivers as I was usually the only passenger when I was lucky enough to get a ride. I'm told the only time they had near a full load of 16 was at shift change times at a factory.

It was declared a 'successful pilot' after a year when it was withdrawn and scheduled services reinstated.
 

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There is a separate thread for discussing DRT schemes:


This one is for discussing Bus Service Improvement Plans.
 

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The Luton BSIP (£19.1 million) has been all about affordability of travel thus far. At least as far as I can tell.

* ENCTS passes now valid all day (for journeys within the borough)
* Prices of weekly HipHop adult and child tickets reduced
* HipHop tickets now valid on Stagecoach, Uno and Luton-serving Red Eagle services (already valid on Arriva, Centrebus and Grant Palmer; not sure if Green Line 755/757 is included)

I sent a FOI request to Luton Borough Council to find out exactly what other measures (new buses / frequency boosts / infrastructure etc) the money will be spent on. EVs probably aren't among them (which they wanted for the busway), but I expect they'll apply for ZEBRA 2 funds in that respect.
 

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I've been trying to find a map of the Luton HipHop validity zone, but it seems to be a state secret. The discounts don't seem to be particularly generous for £19m of funding.
 

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Reading Buses are to introduce a tap on tap off system from 1 November 2023. This is part of their BSIP.
Daily capping will be available, based on zones.
The cap for the Reading zone will be a reduced rate of £3 until 31 December 2023.
The FAQs cover a number of eventualities, including what to do if the bus breaks down!
"What happens if the bus breaks down and I am asked to transfer to a new vehicle?
In the rare event that this happens the driver of the bus will tell you what to do; you should tap off when leaving the bus that you are changing from, but do not tap on or off on the one that you are transferred to. You can then continue tapping on and off as normal for any other trips you make that day."
 

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Reading Buses are to introduce a tap on tap off system from 1 November 2023. This is part of their BSIP.
Daily capping will be available, based on zones.
The cap for the Reading zone will be a reduced rate of £3 until 31 December 2023.
The FAQs cover a number of eventualities, including what to do if the bus breaks down!
"What happens if the bus breaks down and I am asked to transfer to a new vehicle?
In the rare event that this happens the driver of the bus will tell you what to do; you should tap off when leaving the bus that you are changing from, but do not tap on or off on the one that you are transferred to. You can then continue tapping on and off as normal for any other trips you make that day."
Given how ahead of the game Reading are normally, I was shocked recently to see that they hadn't got TOTO yet. Other areas have had this for years and yet Reading hasn't got it and is only getting it now due to bsip funding. Very odd given the past record.
 

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Given how ahead of the game Reading are normally, I was shocked recently to see that they hadn't got TOTO yet. Other areas have had this for years and yet Reading hasn't got it and is only getting it now due to bsip funding. Very odd given the past record.
I wonder if Reading were waiting in case a better system (from the point of view of their operations) was developed, I'm sure it won't have been a case of mere lassitude.
 

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Torbay Council have published a BSIP funded tender for non-commercial bus services to "at least retain the existing bus service network" in their area.

Services included are:
15 / 16 (M-S, Country Bus); 17/17A (Sun/BH, Stagecoach); 25 (M-S, Torbay Minibuses); 60/62/64 (M-F, Torbay Minibuses); 61 (MWF, Torbay Community Development Trust); 65 (TuTh, Torbay Community Development Trust); 108/109 (M-S, Torbay Minibuses).

Bids close 20th November.
 

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The latest round of BSIP spending in Lancashire will improve or restore evening services on several routes around Burnley and a couple from Preston, as well as changes to subsidised services in West Lancashire. https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/roads-parking-and-travel/public-transport/bus-service-changes/ (November changes)

There are also plans I believe funded from BSIP to change the road layout in Colne town centre, as part of which the current "bus station" would close, with new bus gates allowing buses to use the same route in both directions. This plan is strongly opposed by the Town Council, who believe the bus gates would destroy trade in the town centre.
 

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Pretty positive news in Oxfordshire: BSIP funding restoring numerous rural links that were withdrawn when the council stopped subsidising buses in 2016, returning buses (mostly under slightly different number routes than before) to numerous villages that have not had any public transport connections since then. I can't imagine that any of these will be particularly frequent, but they do put some places back on the bus map at least. And at least they aren't demand-responsive services...



Red Rose Travel 122/123: Watlington - Reading via Nettlebed (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Red Rose Travel 126/127: Watlington - Thame via Lewknor (Tue, Thur)
Pulhams (Go-Ahead) 68: Faringdon - Wantage via Uffington (Mon to Sat)
Oxford Bus Co (Go-Ahead) 108: Oxford - Bicester via Stanton St John (Mon to Sat)

Also the 64 (Pulhams) between Swindon and Carterton via Filkins is being restored, but isn't mentioned as part of this scheme, possibly as there may be funding/support from the other LAs it passes through (Gloucestershire, Swindon)
 

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Pretty positive news in Oxfordshire: BSIP funding restoring numerous rural links that were withdrawn when the council stopped subsidising buses in 2016, returning buses (mostly under slightly different number routes than before) to numerous villages that have not had any public transport connections since then. I can't imagine that any of these will be particularly frequent, but they do put some places back on the bus map at least. And at least they aren't demand-responsive services...



Red Rose Travel 122/123: Watlington - Reading via Nettlebed (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Red Rose Travel 126/127: Watlington - Thame via Lewknor (Tue, Thur)
Pulhams (Go-Ahead) 68: Faringdon - Wantage via Uffington (Mon to Sat)
Oxford Bus Co (Go-Ahead) 108: Oxford - Bicester via Stanton St John (Mon to Sat)

Also the 64 (Pulhams) between Swindon and Carterton via Filkins is being restored, but isn't mentioned as part of this scheme, possibly as there may be funding/support from the other LAs it passes through (Gloucestershire, Swindon)
This actually isn't BSIP funding! It's restoration of the regular 'socially-necessary' style subsidies that Oxfordshire ditched in 2016. The 64, on the other hand, is BSIP - I suspect not mentioned as the start date is still uncertain. Of the routes you mentioned, 68 and 108 are 4/day each, the Watlington ones are 1 or 2 per day.
 

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Three of Berkshire's unitary authorities are using BSIP funds to provide free bus travel on select Saturdays (and in Wokingham's case, a brace of route-specific Sundays as well) in the run-up to Christmas.

West Berkshire (18 Nov, 16/23 Dec)

Wokingham Borough (18/25 Nov, 2/9/16/23 Dec; plus 26 Nov / 3 Dec on certain routes)

Bracknell Forest (2/9/16/23 Dec)
 

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Another free bus travel weekend (9/10 December, provided you board before 8pm), this time in Medway borough. This includes cross-boundary journeys from Medway, so with the cap in place a round trip to Bluewater on the 700 will cost just £2.


Hard to see anything topping the BSIP/S106-funded scheme in Leighton Buzzard & Linslade though - free travel on Arriva buses since May 2023, up to the last pre-Christmas weekend.


Thanks to funding received from the Department for Transport (DfT) to improve bus services across Central Bedfordshire, all passengers will also be able to travel for free on the Arriva routes 150, F70 and F77 within the Leighton town zone, and to all points on routes L1 to L6, until Christmas 2023.

Fares to and from destinations outside the Leighton town tone will continue to be charged as normal, although these are currently capped at £2 under the fare cap promotion funded by the government as part of its Help for Households campaign.
 
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Reading Buses are introducing a new Sunday bus service as part of Reading's BSIP.


They have also started a trial of a park and ride service from Winnersh Triangle, using Wokingham's BSIP funding.


Pre Covid, Winnersh Triangle had a popular park and ride service. So popular that it was decided to build a decked car park to increase parking capacity. The top deck is closed off and has never been used, the lower deck is open for use by rail passengers at Winnersh Triangle station, and for users of the new trial P & R service.
 

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Northumberland appear to be funding a new X74 running three times a day between Jedburgh and Newcastle, replacing the once daily 131 and the 808. It starts this weekend and will be run by Peter Hogg, as was the 131. Not very well publicised but the timetable is in the Nexus website and BusTimes.

Discovered thanks to a mention on the thread about reaching 66 and bus pass validity over the border.

Very welcome, opens up possibilities to explore this area in ways not previously achievable. I hope this succeeds.
 

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Northumberland appear to be funding a new X74 running three times a day between Jedburgh and Newcastle, replacing the once daily 131 and the 808. It starts this weekend and will be run by Peter Hogg, as was the 131. Not very well publicised but the timetable is in the Nexus website and BusTimes.

Discovered thanks to a mention on the thread about reaching 66 and bus pass validity over the border.

Very welcome, opens up possibilities to explore this area in ways not previously achievable. I hope this succeeds.
The X74 is indeed a Northumberland County Council contract. It is a three year gross cost contract from 28 January (the service starts Mon 29th), with an option to extend for two more years.
 

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Leicestershire are funding free child travel for 16 days using BSIP funding.


WHAT – Types of journey included: Single journeys (and return journeys where applicable) where a passenger boards in Leicestershire. ‘Tap on, tap off’ will be excluded.
WHEN – From Saturday 23rd March – Sunday 7th April 2024 inclusive children and young people can travel for free Mon – Fri 09:30am – 11pm and all day at weekends and bank holidays.
WHO – Age eligibility: children and young people under 16 can travel by bus for free with participating operators. Operators apply their prevailing young person age criteria, please check local bus operators for age restrictions. Users will be expected to show ID (school/college card, passport, Post Office PASS card) to demonstrate eligibility if asked.
HOW – Proof of eligibility: Users will be expected to travel with their school or college ID to demonstrate eligibility if asked
Check confirmed participating bus operators below for further details on your specific journey
 

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Plans for a Park & Ride facility at Butterfield Business Park (part of the Luton BSIP) received planning permission last week.


A park and ride facility at Butterfield Green in Luton would be “an utter waste of time” and is unlikely to prevent local roads being gridlocked, a meeting heard.

Branding the borough council’s plans “a white elephant”, a feasibility report “defies logic”, warned Liberal Democrat Stopsley councillor David Wynn.

The local authority wants to build the park and ride on two-and-a-half acres of land at Great Marlings, with an office, parking bays, access and landscaping, according to a report to its development management committee. Of the 338 spaces, 285 accommodate standard car parking, 32 are for electric vehicle charging, with 17 disabled parking bays, and four parent and child spaces, said the report. Two bus stop areas with shelters would be built, while shelters will also cover motorbike and cycle spaces. The facility was permitted under the original outline planning application for the Butterfield Business Park. This land is one of its remaining undeveloped plots, accessed via the A505 Hitchin Road.

LBC’s planning team leader Clive Inwards said: “It’s been agreed with the applicant the park and ride would only operate from 7am to 10pm to avoid any adverse impact on the Hilton Garden Inn Luton North or nearby business uses. The size of the facility would be financially self-sufficient and suitably cater for demand. Jobs would be provided during construction and operation to support sustainable economic growth.”

Councillor Wynn described the report as “defying logic”, saying: “It’s alleging to get vehicles off the road heading to central Luton. These buses don’t visit the airport. They travel into the central terminus, which isn’t where most people want to be. Who’s going to use this park and ride?” he asked. “Nobody is going to wait for a bus at Butterfield Green wanting to get into Luton. It won’t be used by football crowds or by the extent that’s suggested in the report. What an enormous and utter waste of time, pushing coaches every 20 minutes down roads which are already gridlocked. That won’t be eased by a few cars going into the park and ride. It’s a route to a complete white elephant, which will only be to the detriment of the local community.”

Asked if the site would be used for airport parking, LBC’s highways and transport projects service manager Steve Lain replied: “It’s only intended for daily parking, not for holiday use. We’ll have a penalty charge for someone stopping excessively long there. Three shuttle buses will run, initially on a demand basis. We’ll increase that as needs be. It’s not our intention to have a 20-minute wait. As part of the Department for Transport funding, we’ll be buying three buses for one of the local operators to provide the drivers and the service we require.”

Labour Farley councillor Dave Taylor, who chairs the committee, said: “There’ll be some difficulties and I do have my doubts about it, as I can’t see any dedicated bus lanes around the town to serve this.”

Councillors approved the plans, with six votes in favour and three against.
 
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