Bus Operator Nominee Pass Validity and Renewal Inquiry

[LeroySerma9021]

Hello everyone,

I have a question about the Bus Operator Nominee Pass that I've been using since early 2021 for my daily commute and occasional leisure trips. This pass was initially provided through my father, who worked for TFL for over 21 years. Unfortunately, my father passed away seven months ago.

I vaguely recall my father mentioning that if he had worked for TFL for over 20 years, the bus operator nominee pass would remain valid even after he was no longer employed with TFL. I'm wondering if this rule still applies, as I'm currently still using my pass, and it's working. If, for some reason, I were to lose the pass and needed to apply for a new one, would I be eligible for a replacement?

Thank you for your assistance.

 

[Deerfold]

Hello everyone,

I have a question about the Bus Operator Nominee Pass that I've been using since early 2021 for my daily commute and occasional leisure trips. This pass was initially provided through my father, who worked for TFL for over 21 years. Unfortunately, my father passed away seven months ago.

I vaguely recall my father mentioning that if he had worked for TFL for over 20 years, the bus operator nominee pass would remain valid even after he was no longer employed with TFL. I'm wondering if this rule still applies, as I'm currently still using my pass, and it's working. If, for some reason, I were to lose the pass and needed to apply for a new one, would I be eligible for a replacement?

Thank you for your assistance.

This is a little confusing. A Bus Operator Nominee Pass would suggest your father worked for a Bus Operator who ran services for TfL, rather than working for TfL?

Usually you have to live at the same address as the person who nominated you - that doesn't seem to be the case for you, though I'm surprised no-one has been in touch with you from his employer or TfL Staff Travel.

 

[GusB]

The first Google search result that came up is a Conditions of Use document dated 2015, so I'm not sure how up to date it is. Section 5 of the document says:

5. Your Bus Operator Nominee Oyster card is a discretionary benefit and does not form part of
the associated employee’s contract of employment. The Bus Operator Nominee Oyster card
remains the property of Transport for London (TfL) and may be cancelled, suspended or
withdrawn at any time TfL thinks fit. You must surrender it when it expires, is cancelled or if you
are no longer eligible under any applicable terms of issue; this includes not living at the same
address as the associated employee.

(My bolding)

This suggests to me that the pass is no longer valid, although someone with more knowledge on the subject may be able to explain further. I've attached the document here:

 

[richw]

There might be a clause that protects the benefit after retirement for the member of staff and their nominee if they’ve been employed for over a set number of years. The nominee may retain after death if the minimum time period is reached.

Both bus operators I’ve worked at (non tfl), it is stated in the terms and conditions that after x number of years, myself and nominated spouse would be eligible to retain our passes for the rest of our lives after retirement, or my spouse would retain eligibility if I suffer death before her as long as I’ve met minimum service.

I have seen examples of these passes and they state “retired staff pass” or similar rather than “staff pass”

 

[Busaholic]

There might be a clause that protects the benefit after retirement for the member of staff and their nominee if they’ve been employed for over a set number of years. The nominee may retain after death if the minimum time period is reached.

Both bus operators I’ve worked at (non tfl), it is stated in the terms and conditions that after x number of years, myself and nominated spouse would be eligible to retain our passes for the rest of our lives after retirement, or my spouse would retain eligibility if I suffer death before her as long as I’ve met minimum service.

I have seen examples of these passes and they state “retired staff pass” or similar rather than “staff pass”

My late father-in-law started work with Scout Motor Services of Preston in 1936 and worked there and with successors Ribble and Stagecoach until the early 1990s. He then had a Stagecoach Retired Staff Pass which he used almost daily until well into his 80s.

 

[LeroySerma9021]

This is a little confusing. A Bus Operator Nominee Pass would suggest your father worked for a Bus Operator who ran services for TfL, rather than working for TfL?

Usually you have to live at the same address as the person who nominated you - that doesn't seem to be the case for you, though I'm surprised no-one has been in touch with you from his employer or TfL Staff Travel.

Yes that’s correct.

And yes, I also lived with him until his time of passing

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There might be a clause that protects the benefit after retirement for the member of staff and their nominee if they’ve been employed for over a set number of years. The nominee may retain after death if the minimum time period is reached.

Both bus operators I’ve worked at (non tfl), it is stated in the terms and conditions that after x number of years, myself and nominated spouse would be eligible to retain our passes for the rest of our lives after retirement, or my spouse would retain eligibility if I suffer death before her as long as I’ve met minimum service.

I have seen examples of these passes and they state “retired staff pass” or similar rather than “staff pass”

That’s what I’m thinking. He mentioned it was after 20 years of service of which he had done. It’s just confusing as I can’t find anymore details past the terms of conditions which is quite vague