Burnley v Chelsea footex

[Wandering pete]

07.48 Euston to Burnley Manchester Rd..out via Stoke to Stockport with electric haulage thence diesel via Todmorden curve..ecs to Blackburn .Return via Crewe for loco change...brings back memories of the League Liner with its disco coach??????

 

[copernicium112]

Just seen it at Stockport, how do you actually get yourself on one of these? Is any old ticket valid or do you have to pay extra.

 

[Class 170101]

Run through the football club I expect.

 

[billh]

Does anyone know what the 67 hauled special was about today? Apparently Euston to Burnley Manchester Road and return. Silver 67 and very smart grey and blue coaches. Thanks
Bill

 

[Darandio]

Footex, Chelsea supporters to Burnley and back.

I believe it was 90's for Euston to Stockport and 67's from there.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Saw it pass here both in the morning and on the return this evening, 67014 was the locomotive, as billh said those InterCity blue/grey mk2e/f coaches do look really nice.

 

[JonathanH]

Does that mean that 67014 and these coaches are favourite to work with Tornado on Tuesday?

 

[billh]

Saw it pass here both in the morning and on the return this evening, 67014 was the locomotive, as billh said those InterCity blue/grey mk2e/f coaches do look really nice.

Thanks all for the prompt replies
Mr Bridge, you are just down the line from me- I was near Ashton Moss (not North or South) Junction as was.
Bill

 

[Ash Bridge]

Thanks all for the prompt replies
Mr Bridge, you are just down the line from me- I was near Ashton Moss (not North or South) Junction as was.
Bill

It's nice to know it's not just myself that's located alongside this route Bill, you'll know aswell as I that in the past it was always known for unusual workings, seems that even in these less interesting times it can still provide a surprise from time to time.

 

[DarloRich]

Just seen it at Stockport, how do you actually get yourself on one of these? Is any old ticket valid or do you have to pay extra.

Most often open to club season ticket / club members / travel club members and often run by Thomas Cook

 

[DarloRich]

There was a footer yesterday for Liverpool v spurs

 

[lejog]

Just seen it at Stockport, how do you actually get yourself on one of these? Is any old ticket valid or do you have to pay extra.

Cache of Thomas Cooke website

Train travel is only available to Chelsea members and season ticket holders in possession of an official match ticket purchased from the Chelsea ticket office.

Price of travel is a bargain £10, match tickets are rather more and the cost of season tickets up to £1200. Plus IIRC (a work colleague is a season ticket holder) there is a ballot at the start of the season for away tickets, although I don't suppose Burnley away is one of the popular matches.

 

[Bevan Price]

Most often open to club season ticket / club members / travel club members and often run by Thomas Cook

I can't imagine many sensible enthusiasts, etc., would wish to travel on a train full of football supporters, especially on the return trip when many supporters are likely to have consumed quite a lot of ethanol..

 

[lejog]

I can't imagine many sensible enthusiasts, etc., would wish to travel on a train full of football supporters, especially on the return trip when many supporters are likely to have consumed quite a lot of ethanol..

Not much chance of a beer, dry train, 45mins to get to the ground (1mile) and not much time after. Plus pubs en-route will probably have security on the door. And frankly I don't think your average rather well off Chelsea season ticket holder would want to mix with train enthusiasts either!

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

Some sweeping generalisations here.

I can't imagine many sensible enthusiasts, etc., would wish to travel on a train full of football supporters, especially on the return trip when many supporters are likely to have consumed quite a lot of ethanol..

Why this ongoing obsession on this site with the idea that football fans are all heavy drinkers on match days? IME the sort of railfan who finds ways to be on unusual workings is far more likely to insist on drinking along the way.

Not much chance of a beer, dry train, 45mins to get to the ground (1mile) and not much time after. Plus pubs en-route will probably have security on the door. And frankly I don't think your average rather well off Chelsea season ticket holder would want to mix with train enthusiasts either!

Chelsea is well known for having expensive tickets. But that is not the same as Chelsea season-ticket holders having to be well off to afford them. Just a matter of spending priorities. How many railfans think that £492 for a 7-day standard class All Line Rover is good value? Yet there are regular posts on this site by people planning and using them.

 

[Baxenden Bank]

Some sweeping generalisations here.

Why this ongoing obsession on this site with the idea that football fans are all heavy drinkers on match days? IME the sort of railfan who finds ways to be on unusual workings is far more likely to insist on drinking along the way.

Because, unless you are right by the ground, you do not notice the sober football fans, (they are dispersed and quietly go about their business) but you do notice the drunken ones. So, in the memory, football fan = drunk. The same can be said for any easily identifiable tribe - sports fans, music concerts, railfans. Who wants to be on a train full of (horse)racegoers on their way home? :cry:

 

[Kite159]

Because, unless you are right by the ground, you do not notice the sober football fans, (they are dispersed and quietly go about their business) but you do notice the drunken ones. So, in the memory, football fan = drunk. The same can be said for any easily identifiable tribe - sports fans, music concerts, railfans. Who wants to be on a train full of (horse)racegoers on their way home? :cry:

The worst are Tennis fans when Wimbledon is on. Mainly the "Pimms O'clock" crowd (i.e. the ones who can't really handle the drink).

Although I'm sure horse-racegoers can also be as bad for drunken behaviour after York/Chester races

 

[FenMan]

The worst are Tennis fans when Wimbledon is on. Mainly the "Pimms O'clock" crowd (i.e. the ones who can't really handle the drink).

Although I'm sure horse-racegoers can also be as bad for drunken behaviour after York/Chester races

Not to mention Royal Ascot!

 

[Kite159]

Not to mention Royal Ascot!

You could say the same about most sports, as you will have people attending who drink too much and can't handle it.

Similar to Christmas party season for non-sporting events.

 

[Dr_Intoxicated]

Cache of Thomas Cooke website



Price of travel is a bargain £10, match tickets are rather more and the cost of season tickets up to £1200. Plus IIRC (a work colleague is a season ticket holder) there is a ballot at the start of the season for away tickets, although I don't suppose Burnley away is one of the popular matches.

I am a Chelsea season ticket holder and the club from time to time does run subsidised trains to away games organised by Thomas Cook.

There is an away season ticket scheme whereby you can get a ticket to all the away games. However those not on the away season ticket scheme can buy (subject to arability) around 3 to 4 weeks in advance of the game. The games normally sell out very quickly.

I have been on specials from Kings Cross to Newcastle and also from Kensington Olympia to Cardiff.

 

[DarloRich]

I can't imagine many sensible enthusiasts, etc., would wish to travel on a train full of football supporters, especially on the return trip when many supporters are likely to have consumed quite a lot of ethanol..

because everyone going to the match will be drunk????????????? :roll: ( which of course would never happen on a spotter tour) TBH most football fans wouldn't want to share their trains with hygienically challenged, relationship stunted, wibbling super spotters prattling on about the form of traction.

I think your understanding of who is on these trains is somewhat limited frankly. When they stop at MK i see quite mixed crowd getting on from lads and dads to grandparents.

Because, unless you are right by the ground, you do not notice the sober football fans, (they are dispersed and quietly go about their business) but you do notice the drunken ones. So, in the memory, football fan = drunk. The same can be said for any easily identifiable tribe - sports fans, music concerts, railfans.

:roll: Some of you really need to get out a bit more. :roll:

Who wants to be on a train full of (horse)racegoers on their way home? :cry:

Depends if i have won or not!

I am a Chelsea season ticket holder and the club from time to time does run subsidised trains to away games organised by Thomas Cook.

There is an away season ticket scheme whereby you can get a ticket to all the away games. However those not on the away season ticket scheme can buy (subject to arability) around 3 to 4 weeks in advance of the game. The games normally sell out very quickly.

I have been on specials from Kings Cross to Newcastle and also from Kensington Olympia to Cardiff.

God forbid you might have had a couple of cans on the train

Some sweeping generalisations here.



Why this ongoing obsession on this site with the idea that football fans are all heavy drinkers on match days? IME the sort of railfan who finds ways to be on unusual workings is far more likely to insist on drinking along the way.



Chelsea is well known for having expensive tickets. But that is not the same as Chelsea season-ticket holders having to be well off to afford them. Just a matter of spending priorities. How many railfans think that £492 for a 7-day standard class All Line Rover is good value? Yet there are regular posts on this site by people planning and using them.

An island of sanity.......................................

 

[bradders1983]

Not much chance of a beer, dry train, 45mins to get to the ground (1mile) and not much time after. Plus pubs en-route will probably have security on the door. And frankly I don't think your average rather well off Chelsea season ticket holder would want to mix with train enthusiasts either!

How slow do you walk?!?!

 

[Jordeh]

because everyone going to the match will be drunk????????????? :roll: ( which of course would never happen on a spotter tour) TBH most football fans wouldn't want to share their trains with hygienically challenged, relationship stunted, wibbling super spotters prattling on about the form of traction.

Is name-calling back the most mature way to respond to criticism of football fans? It's also interesting you respond with your own generalisation and speak on behalf of "most football fans". My only conclusion is I definitely wouldn't want to share a train with yourself.

 

[roversfan2001]

Some of my best experiences on a train have been with football fans. Granted, if standing up on a Pacer for 20 minutes with people jumping around and beer flying everywhere isn't your thing then you'll disagree, but I enjoyed it.

Most football fans don't get drunk at all. However, of the ones that get the train you'll find they have drunk a few, and that is why they got the train. To everyone expressing their distaste at drunk football fans on a train: would you rather they drove home, potentially causing a nasty accident?

 

[Baxenden Bank]

Some of my best experiences on a train have been with football fans. Granted, if standing up on a Pacer for 20 minutes with people jumping around and beer flying everywhere isn't your thing then you'll disagree, but I enjoyed it.

Most football fans don't get drunk at all. However, of the ones that get the train you'll find they have drunk a few, and that is why they got the train. To everyone expressing their distaste at drunk football fans on a train: would you rather they drove home, potentially causing a nasty accident?

I'd prefer it if: a) they didn't get drunk, and b) didn't assume everyone else on the train is remotely interested in their particular hobby - particularly their inane chants. Who are we? Who cares.

 

[Bevan Price]

because everyone going to the match will be drunk????????????? :roll: ( which of course would never happen on a spotter tour) TBH most football fans wouldn't want to share their trains with hygienically challenged, relationship stunted, wibbling super spotters prattling on about the form of traction.

I think your understanding of who is on these trains is somewhat limited frankly. When they stop at MK i see quite mixed crowd getting on from lads and dads to grandparents.

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One of the reasons that I stopped enjoying railtours was because a small minority of p**sheads was enough to make the trip unpleasant. And whilst many football supporters are sober, sensible people, I have encountered rather too many rowdy half-drunk loudmouths on service trains . None were actually violent, but I often found their behaviour / attitude a bit intinidating.

And as others comment, components crowds going home from other sporting events can be unpleasantly over-intoxicated.

 

[Darandio]

Is name-calling back the most mature way to respond to criticism of football fans? It's also interesting you respond with your own generalisation and speak on behalf of "most football fans". My only conclusion is I definitely wouldn't want to share a train with yourself.

And i'm sure he will be very pleased you don't want to!!

In all seriousness though, any thread about football charters/footex/whatever always seems to attract the 'all football fans are drunken louts' brigade. It's getting really tiresome.

 

[MCR247]

Is name-calling back the most mature way to respond to criticism of football fans? It's also interesting you respond with your own generalisation and speak on behalf of "most football fans". My only conclusion is I definitely wouldn't want to share a train with yourself.

I personally thought it was a clever way of making his point. Posters on here seem to be going with (widely held and inaccurate) stereotypes of football fans, so he countered with how others may inaccurately perceive all spotters/enthusiasts to be

 

[roversfan2001]

I'd prefer it if: a) they didn't get drunk, and b) didn't assume everyone else on the train is remotely interested in their particular hobby - particularly their inane chants. Who are we? Who cares.

That's a very accommodating way of things - "how dare you drink alcohol; I don't like football - how dare you talk about it". :roll: I'm sure people think the same when on a train and spotters are talking about trains loudly (as some do).

 

[DarloRich]

I personally thought it was a clever way of making his point. Posters on here seem to be going with (widely held and inaccurate) stereotypes of football fans, so he countered with how others may inaccurately perceive all spotters/enthusiasts to be

its no fun when you have to explain it!

Is name-calling back the most mature way to respond to criticism of football fans? It's also interesting you respond with your own generalisation and speak on behalf of "most football fans". My only conclusion is I definitely wouldn't want to share a train with yourself.

Just so you are aware - I will be heading from Bedford to Boston and back on Saturday. There will be about 6 or 7 of us in my group. We might have a drink. We may talk. Make sure you lock your doors or the nasty men might get you :roll:

And i'm sure he will be very pleased you don't want to!!

Happy to share with anyone. It is good to talk to people about different things. Even narrow minded spotters. Sometimes.