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How long before you get a case of the TV being switched on showing adverts with no means to turning it off (the socket being inaccessible), with the hotel wanting an extra £5/£10 for the remote control to off the TV. Taking a leaf from the streaming services :lol:

Don't get me wrong, mostly for me a hotel room is just a bed for the night. I still miss those bargain-basement 2nd floor private rooms in the Euro Hostel in Glasgow, even if it was a shared bathroom.
 
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Wifi? Mobile phone with data plans are cheap in the UK. Fair enough somewhere where mobile signal is poor, but I don't find it that common. I can't remember when I last used hotel wifi.
For domestic travellers this may well be true - but anyone with roaming fees to consider will be very grateful for the WiFi.

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Sure there's a case for tourists, but they have for a long time had the choice of paying for wifi, getting a local SIM, using their roaming allowances. These days you can actually just get a dirt cheap e-SIM the minute you land in the country or even beforehand.
Not everywhere. Unless it has changed, Germany requires proof of a registered German address for PAYG SIM cards. There’s ways round it, of course, but not legally.
 

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Nope, no need for a registered Germany address for an e-SIM in Germany: https://travel.vodafone.com/our-destinations/germany
They're eSims sold by Vodafone UK for data access in Germany. Basically a Vodafone UK eSIM preloaded with the amount of data you require for that area. Once the data has gone (or 30 days, whatever comes first) the eSIM is deactivated. They all have a +44 number and you can't make phone calls or send text messages.

There are a number of eSIM data providers but they all use the same model.
 

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They're eSims sold by Vodafone UK for data access in Germany. Basically a Vodafone UK eSIM preloaded with the amount of data you require for that area. Once the data has gone (or 30 days, whatever comes first) the eSIM is deactivated. They all have a +44 number and you can't make phone calls or send text messages.

There are a number of eSIM data providers but they all use the same model.
WiFi wouldn't give you a German number either though - you'd still have to get a local SIM/eSIM if you want that.
 

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Charging for air conditioning seems like something to look at. Not everyone needs a cold room in the summer, and when people do start roasting then I'm sure they'll pay a decent amount for it.

I paid a bit extra for a so called 'SuperRoom' at a central London Travelodge last summer because it had air-conditioning - having had a quick look it seems this is only part of the offer at some Travelodges. It was during one of the heatwaves - the air con wasn't particularly impressive, though I think I'm glad I had it compared to not having it! The rest of the room wasn't notably 'super', it has to be said - but Travelodges do seem to vary in quality a fair bit, and this one was at the cheaper end of the scale.
 

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I paid a bit extra for a so called 'SuperRoom' at a central London Travelodge last summer because it had air-conditioning - having had a quick look it seems this is only part of the offer at some Travelodges. It was during one of the heatwaves - the air con wasn't particularly impressive, though I think I'm glad I had it compared to not having it! The rest of the room wasn't notably 'super', it has to be said - but Travelodges do seem to vary in quality a fair bit, and this one was at the cheaper end of the scale.

I find the Travelodge Super Rooms to be Premier Inn normal room standard, as an overall thing. Whereas Premier Inn's premium rooms are "good 4* business hotel" standard, I really do quite like them though I only sometimes book them as the uplift isn't always good value.
 

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Not sure I want hotels becoming more like hostels, but we can see it's happening gradually (boiled frogs).

By all means build more hostels and maybe even more capsule hotels for those who want the absolute cheapest - but let's stop the race to the bottom for regular rooms where people have (or had) certain expectations.

I was being somewhat hyperbolic with my examples but there really are people who would willingly give up loads of things to supposedly save money, when of course the prices don't come down - the things they used to get free are charged on top.

Nothing is free.

At/on full service locations/services you pay for things whether you want them or not.

I personally can live without a poor quality greasy breakfast if it means my room rate is cheaper.
 

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Nothing is free.

At/on full service locations/services you pay for things whether you want them or not.

I personally can live without a poor quality greasy breakfast if it means my room rate is cheaper.

Plus if you're paying for the thing it's often better quality. Free breakfasts are usually pretty basic, I think Holiday Inn Express does them free and it's only a few items.

For those who want it, the downside of it being chargeable is that you pay more as only those who want it pay, rather than it being split between everyone. See also e.g. first class food on trains.

Of course if there's a Spoons nearby you can pay less for a similar breakfast anyway. Interestingly I recently stayed at a suburban Premier Inn with a Spoons right next to it, I think they had taken over the pub from Whitbread. I bet that one sold very few breakfasts in their breakfast room, though I suppose to some the buffet will be a novelty worth paying for in itself.
 

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If you simply ask nicely at the desk on check in, you will probably find that requests are accomodated. Obviously, this is not always practical such as if the hotel is full or you are one of the last guests to arrive.
The premier inn here in Darlington is self check in. According to friends who have stayed there you would be lucky to see anytone apart from housekeeping as even the bar/restaurant has been closed most times when they visit
 

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The premier inn here in Darlington is self check in. According to friends who have stayed there you would be lucky to see anytone apart from housekeeping as even the bar/restaurant has been closed most times when they visit

You can always call for assistance, there's usually a bell to do so. There will always be staff on site, they are probably just doing something else. It's not sensible to use self check-in or online check-in if you are going to want to shift rooms in that situation.

Hopefully they will soon update their software so you can lengthen a budget rate stay prior to check-in even if you can't shorten one, assuming there would be availability to book the whole of the new stay in one room. It's an odd omission. Though I suppose you still may not want to if it would reprice the whole stay, which it probably would as changing the date of one does even if it includes nights from the original booking.

Most of the time I've had them able to line them up, but occasionally not, particularly not when checking in late and the second night being the one where it's full. If you check in bang on 3 they can pretty much always do it by swapping the room on the Friday of a weekend, as that is normally the quieter day whereas on Saturdays PIs are often full.
 

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I find the Travelodge Super Rooms to be Premier Inn normal room standard, as an overall thing. Whereas Premier Inn's premium rooms are "good 4* business hotel" standard, I really do quite like them though I only sometimes book them as the uplift isn't always good value.
Until recently I was a fan of these cheap hotel chains, but am getting less enthusiastic.

After reading https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...ge-turned-away-vulnerable-women-late-at-night (Travelodge turned away vulnerable women late at night. They were far from home but it refused to let them stay without specific ID to prove they were over 18)

and an unsatisfactory week in the Premier inn in St Peter Port (massively overheated, "a/c" kept defaulting back to 25 deg C, no opening window, no tomatoes and some other items available on buffet breakfast) I shall probably give both chains a miss in future.
 

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Until recently I was a fan of these cheap hotel chains, but am getting less enthusiastic.
After reading https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...ge-turned-away-vulnerable-women-late-at-night (Travelodge turned away vulnerable women late at night.

That sort of thing could happen in any hotel. It has always occurred to me that it's a bit lax that you can just walk up to the desk and ask for any room key by number in older hotels where it's a physical key they like you to leave when you go out, and if you sound confident enough you get it. Plus I've had someone walk in on me while undressing for the shower when they were given the wrong key once, though in traditional hotels you can mitigate that by ensuring you ask for both keys even if travelling alone - I went down to complain and while apologising profusely they said it happened because the second key was still on the board and they just picked up the wrong one as a result.

Really hotels should be asking for ID in such cases, and if unable to produce it (e.g. because they've been mugged of their key and wallet) they should have to do something like identify some items that will be in the room that aren't simply clothing and the member of staff go and both check and ask anyone present if they are OK with a key being given out before doing so. A bit like if I go to a gym reception and say I've lost my locker key I'd expect them to ask what is in the locker (to a decent level of description, e.g. "a blue size XL Berghaus coat" not just "a coat" as there will be a coat in all the lockers probably) and check before allowing me access, and indeed the one time I have actually done that that's exactly what they did.

They were far from home but it refused to let them stay without specific ID to prove they were over 18) and an unsatisfactory week in the Premier inn in St Peter Port (massively overheated, "a/c" kept defaulting back to 25 deg C, no opening window, no tomatoes and some other items available on buffet breakfast) I shall probably give both chains a miss in future.

PI doesn't ask for ID routinely for those who state their nationality as British. Increasingly other hotels do, though, and often without pointing it out on the booking confirmation. It's only YHA that seem to have decent messaging on it. When asked I've often said "what if I didn't have any" and got "erm" back - only non-UK citizens (/residents, I forget exactly) and cash payers are required to show ID at hotels per the law.

As for St Peter Port I've stayed there and found it perfectly acceptable, quite new and in good nick if I recall. Maybe an off week? I do find they have their heating/AC automatically reset after a period of time though and I agree that is annoying.
 

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Of course but its always nice to turn up at a hotel and see someone on reception

At least they have a reception, unlike Ibis's brief flirtation with staff wandering round with iPads. Not unusual for it to be on the end of the bar for one member of staff to be able to do both, though.
 

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The premier inn here in Darlington is self check in.
The Luton Premier Inn’s self service machine rejected my booked early check-in recently. I buzzed for assistance and got curtly told ‘check-in’s at 3’ then, after explaining, was grudgingly said they’d check ‘if’ my room was available. £15 extra for that bit of surliness.
 

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PI don't have specific reception staff and haven't for over 10 years.

Outside of peak check in times team members are expected to help with meal service and clean up, bar work, stock/linen counts, housekeeping etc.
 

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The Luton Premier Inn’s self service machine rejected my booked early check-in recently. I buzzed for assistance and got curtly told ‘check-in’s at 3’ then, after explaining, was grudgingly said they’d check ‘if’ my room was available. £15 extra for that bit of surliness.

I think I can see your problem there :)

I've stayed in Luton Travelodge (because I had to be at the hospital early in the morning for an operation). Now that was grim.
 

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PI don't have specific reception staff and haven't for over 10 years.

Outside of peak check in times team members are expected to help with meal service and clean up, bar work, stock/linen counts, housekeeping etc.

TBH I don't mind this as long as they are there if there is a problem. I'm quite happy with self check in machines. When I'm tired I don't necessarily want a chat anyway, I just want to get in my room.

To be honest I look forward to the day I can obtain an NFC* room key on my phone and not even need to go to reception at all.

* Near field communication, a la smart card.
 

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You can always call for assistance, there's usually a bell to do so. There will always be staff on site, they are probably just doing something else. It's not sensible to use self check-in or online check-in if you are going to want to shift rooms in that situation.

Hopefully they will soon update their software so you can lengthen a budget rate stay prior to check-in even if you can't shorten one, assuming there would be availability to book the whole of the new stay in one room. It's an odd omission. Though I suppose you still may not want to if it would reprice the whole stay, which it probably would as changing the date of one does even if it includes nights from the original booking.

Most of the time I've had them able to line them up, but occasionally not, particularly not when checking in late and the second night being the one where it's full. If you check in bang on 3 they can pretty much always do it by swapping the room on the Friday of a weekend, as that is normally the quieter day whereas on Saturdays PIs are often full.
Yeah, it's not like there's a shortage of places to get breakfast in town and city centres these days. Gregg's, McDonald's, various coffee shops and cafes, 'spoons and various other pub chains offering a good range of price/quality/value depending on what you're after.
 

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The Luton Premier Inn’s self service machine rejected my booked early check-in recently. I buzzed for assistance and got curtly told ‘check-in’s at 3’ then, after explaining, was grudgingly said they’d check ‘if’ my room was available. £15 extra for that bit of surliness.
Bet you were well chuffed for that
 

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TBH I don't mind this as long as they are there if there is a problem. I'm quite happy with self check in machines. When I'm tired I don't necessarily want a chat anyway, I just want to get in my room.

To be honest I look forward to the day I can obtain an NFC* room key on my phone and not even need to go to reception at all.

* Near field communication, a la smart card.
Some Hilton hotels have this via their app, but it uses Bluetooth rather than NFC and works sometimes other times not and they still give you a physical key for the room. I stayed at the Doubletree at Aberdeen Arena last year and it didn't work very well at all. You are meant to keep your phone in your pocket and it recognises your door and unlocks it on approach. Oddly it doesn't do the outside doors when they're locked though from 11pm so you still have to take your physical card with you.
 

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Some Hilton hotels have this via their app, but it uses Bluetooth rather than NFC and works sometimes other times not and they still give you a physical key for the room. I stayed at the Doubletree at Aberdeen Arena last year and it didn't work very well at all. You are meant to keep your phone in your pocket and it recognises your door and unlocks it on approach. Oddly it doesn't do the outside doors when they're locked though from 11pm so you still have to take your physical card with you.
Must admit that I've had this not work for me as well.

The Village Hotel chain do a self-check in where you take a blanked room key card, put it on a card reader/writer, check-in, then off to your room without needing to speak to staff. Invariably when I've checked in to these, a staff member has been there anywhere and nobody else has been checking in and they've offered to help which is nice of them, but it's worked seemlessly for me when I've used it.
 

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The Village Hotel chain do a self-check in where you take a blanked room key card, put it on a card reader/writer, check-in, then off to your room without needing to speak to staff.

That's how the Premier Inn ones work, but it's a bit unreliable - I think they must have cheaped out on the terminals.
 

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That's how the Premier Inn ones work, but it's a bit unreliable - I think they must have cheaped out on the terminals.
That's disappointing. Hopefully they replace them. I prefer to speak to a human don't get me wrong, but if a bus load of people are queueing to check-in, I'd prefer the convenience of self-service easily. Probably around 90% of my hotel check-ins are late at night and I just want to get to bed.
 

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