British Rail Class 153 Cost

[BigJon93]

Hello

I was just wondering how much it would cost to buy a Class 153? I was just simply curious how much trains can be sold on for when the operators are finished with them.

Regards

 

[Doomotron]

Hello

I was just wondering how much it would cost to buy a Class 153? I was just simply curious how much trains can be sold on for when the operators are finished with them.

Regards

Depends on the context. When a train is done with a particular TOC, it is sent back to the ROSCO. Few modern fleets are owned by TOCs, almost every single train in use in the country is owned by a ROSCO. If you want to lease a Class 153 that'll cost a different amount than buying it outright, which itself has different variables. If they're selling it as a useable train it'll cost more than if they're selling it at scrap value because it has no further use.

 

[BigJon93]

Depends on the context. When a train is done with a particular TOC, it is sent back to the ROSCO. Few modern fleets are owned by TOCs, almost every single train in use in the country is owned by a ROSCO. If you want to lease a Class 153 that'll cost a different amount than buying it outright, which itself has different variables. If they're selling it as a useable train it'll cost more than if they're selling it at scrap value because it has no further use.

Thanks for your reply. Well I wasn't to sure how the trains are owned these days. I assumed they were rented by the operators from another company which I think is what you are basically said above.

I was more thinking when a train has reached it's commercial use, instead of scrapping it the owners might sell it to a preserved railway for example. I was just wondering what that cost will be, a working one. I was more thinking if like a research group needed a train for test equipment, how much it would cost them to buy one. It's ok if you don't know, it more my interest and curiosity making me wonder.

I was sort of interested as I noticed the pacers being sold off, and preserved railways buying them, but it's all POA.

 

[adc82140]

I have absolutely no knowledge of this really, but at a guess I'd say £1 more than the scrap yard will pay, plus the cost of getting it from wherever it happens to be to wherever you want it to go.

 

[The Lad]

I believe that pacers were pretty much sold for the cost of postage.

 

[43096]

I was more thinking when a train has reached it's commercial use, instead of scrapping it the owners might sell it to a preserved railway for example. I was just wondering what that cost will be, a working one. I was more thinking if like a research group needed a train for test equipment, how much it would cost them to buy one. It's ok if you don't know, it more my interest and curiosity making me wonder.

There's so many factors that go into that it isn't possible to give a figure. In any case the agreements are normally commercially confidential.

I believe that pacers were pretty much sold for the cost of postage.

You must have some very expensive postage costs, then!

 

[Trackman]

I have absolutely no knowledge of this really, but at a guess I'd say £1 more than the scrap yard will pay, plus the cost of getting it from wherever it happens to be to wherever you want it to go.

I guess the latter would cost more...

 

[Maude673]

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Shed no.2 are selling this 483 car for £8000 - amusingly you can pay with Apple Pay. I’m not sure if this is a representative price for other scrap value stock.

 

[D365]

Is that the car that showed up briefly on eBay?

 

[Bletchleyite]

You must have some very expensive postage costs, then!

I bet Hermes would still manage to lose a 153...

 

[43096]

I bet Hermes would still manage to lose a 153...

 

[Ribbleman]

…….or leave it behind the bins if you were out when they called.

 

[L401CJF]

From how I understand it generally it would be scrap value there abouts. I believe it costs considerably more to transport it to a new home than it does to purchase.

In days gone by it wasn't uncommon for bus operators to "donate" a bus to preservation groups for the price of the tyres, however due to people taking the mick and messing them around these days it seems to be no more.

I'm not sure if ROSCOs have been known to donate old stock for next to nothing as its generally commercially sensitive information and won't be shared with the public unfortunately.

Of course regarding 153s, I believe Transport for Wales own a number of them outright while some of them are still leased from ROSCOs so unsure if it would be different trying to obtain one of the owned ones!

 

[43096]

I'm not sure if ROSCOs have been known to donate old stock for next to nothing as its generally commercially sensitive information and won't be shared with the public unfortunately.

Donated vehicles are often known as part of the reason the ROSCOs donate is the PR benefit. As an example, the donations of 43048/089/159 to 125 Group by Porterbrook were announced as such by both parties.

 

[Towers]

Is that the car that showed up briefly on eBay?

Weren’t they asking something ridiculous like £30k for it originally? They seem desperate not to scrap it!