Breaking journey, cheapest fare?

[wearytraveller]

Hi all

I'm travelling from Preston park to harpenden on Sunday afternoon, but I want to stop in London to watch some cricket.

As far as I can tell my best option is 16.23 Preston park to West Hampstead Thameslink, tube from west Hampstead to st John's wood and back. Then back on the train to harpenden

If I get a super off-peak single, will it let me exit at West Hampstead Thameslink then re-enter four hours later?

Is there a better option?

Thanks in advance

 

[miklcct]

Absolutely no problem here, however you will need to pay for the tube both ways if you want to do what you have proposed.

A better idea may be to use your ticket to get onto the tube at London Bridge, and break your cross-London transfer at St John's Wood (it will not be accepted by the barrier but it is explicitly allowed - it will likely be accepted by the barrier if you exit at Baker Street). You will need to pay for your onward journey to West Hampstead.

You are allowed to break your transfer journey once and leave the Underground, Elizabeth line or DLR at any intermediate station. For example, if you are travelling on the Underground between Victoria and Euston, you can exit at Oxford Circus. However, if you subsequently wish to continue your journey by Underground you will have to purchase another ticket or use pay as you go to travel to Euston.

 

[30907]

Hi all

I'm travelling from Preston park to harpenden on Sunday afternoon, but I want to stop in London to watch some cricket.

As far as I can tell my best option is 16.23 Preston park to West Hampstead Thameslink, tube from west Hampstead to st John's wood and back. Then back on the train to harpenden

If I get a super off-peak single, will it let me exit at West Hampstead Thameslink then re-enter four hours later?

Is there a better option?

Thanks in advance

It's certainly permitted, even if the barriers don't like it.

 

[wearytraveller]

Absolutely no problem here, however you will need to pay for the tube both ways if you want to do what you have proposed.

A better idea may be to use your ticket to get onto the tube at London Bridge, and break your cross-London transfer at St John's Wood (it will not be accepted by the barrier but it is explicitly allowed - it will likely be accepted by the barrier if you exit at Baker Street). You will need to pay for your onward journey to West Hampstead.

Thanks. Yes, that was my original plan but the trains aren't stopping at London bridge this Sunday

 

[Haywain]

Thanks. Yes, that was my original plan but the trains aren't stopping at London bridge this Sunday

In which case you could break at Blackfriars and use the underground from there, changing to the Jubilee line at Westminster.

 

[redreni]

Or change at Farringdon and Bond Street - no need to pass through any gatelines before St Johns Wood, then. (You shouldn't have any problems passing through both gatelines at Blackfriars, but just to flag there is a choice between gatelines at Blackfriars or no gatelines at Farringdon.).

I think I'm right in saying the most recent edition of the regular ticketing bulletin that goes out to London Underground gateline staff contained a reminder about passengers with a cross-London 'Maltese Cross' tickets. When I last exited with a Maltese Cross ticket at Tottenham Court Road (a station where forum members had previously reported problems ending a cross-London transfer), it was no problem. So hopefully the good people at St Johns Wood will have read their bulletin! If they have they'll advise you that you can't use your ticket again on London Underground and then let you out.

 

[wearytraveller]

Or change at Farringdon and Bond Street - no need to pass through any gatelines before St Johns Wood, then. (You shouldn't have any problems passing through both gatelines at Blackfriars, but just to flag there is a choice between gatelines at Blackfriars or no gatelines at Farringdon.).

I think I'm right in saying the most recent edition of the regular ticketing bulletin that goes out to London Underground gateline staff contained a reminder about passengers with a cross-London 'Maltese Cross' tickets. When I last exited with a Maltese Cross ticket at Tottenham Court Road (a station where forum members had previously reported problems ending a cross-London transfer), it was no problem. So hopefully the good people at St Johns Wood will have read their bulletin! If they have they'll advise you that you can't use your ticket again on London Underground and then let you out.

I wonder which would be quicker.

It's only a 2-minute walk to the Elizabeth line at farringdon - it's 4 minutes longer on the Thameslink but the jubilee line ride is probably 4 minutes less from bond Street.

It's five or six minutes interchange at Westminster from District/Circle to jubilee.

 

[miklcct]

I wonder which would be quicker.

It's only a 2-minute walk to the Elizabeth line at farringdon - it's 4 minutes longer on the Thameslink but the jubilee line ride is probably 4 minutes less from bond Street.

It's five or six minutes interchange at Westminster from District/Circle to jubilee.

It's also a similar long interchange from Elizabeth line to Jubilee at Bond Street. Another alternative is to use the tube at Farringdon and change (or even exit) at Baker Street.

 

[redreni]

I wonder which would be quicker.

It's only a 2-minute walk to the Elizabeth line at farringdon - it's 4 minutes longer on the Thameslink but the jubilee line ride is probably 4 minutes less from bond Street.

It's five or six minutes interchange at Westminster from District/Circle to jubilee.

It's a bit of a walk at Bond Street, but not ridiculous. Similar to the interchange at Westminster time-wise, I would say.

Travel near the front of the westbound Elizabeth Line train for optimum positioning to make the transfer.

 

[wearytraveller]

It's also a similar long interchange from Elizabeth line to Jubilee at Bond Street. Another alternative is to use the tube at Farringdon and change (or even exit) at Baker Street.

That sounds like the fastest, thanks. No time wasted changing tube lines

 

[Watershed]

That sounds like the fastest, thanks. No time wasted changing tube lines

It's possible to change between the Elizabeth to Jubilee lines at Bond Street in 3-4 minutes if you know what you're doing - you want to be in the westernmost coach on the Elizabeth line at Bond Street to be in the optimal position for the escalators that lead towards the Jubilee/Central lines.

It needn't take much longer than changing between the Elizabeth line and Thameslink platforms at Farringdon, which is especially suboptimal to/from the southbound Thameslink platform (you either have an indeterminate wait for the lift, or you have to use the footbridge to the northbound platform before taking the escalators down to the Elizabeth line).

However, changing between the Thameslink and Circle/H&C/Metropolitan line platforms at Farringdon is very quick as both platforms are only slightly below street level.

 

[Belperpete]

What you are proposing is valid provided that you buy a super off peak single, or other ticket that is valid via the underground. It would NOT be valid if you were to buy a cheaper advance fare that is only valid via Thameslink, or on which break of journey is prohibited.