Bread discussion

[yorksrob]

It's pre-cut to about the size I want, so I don't have to faff around pretending I'm any good with a bread knife. It's almost impossible (for me at least) to get any sensible kind of slice out of an uncut loaf.

Added to which, as other people have already mentioned, it lasts a lot longer and is (possibly Warburtons excluded) cheaper. It also freezes very effectively and can be eaten from the freezer by the slice.

Apart from those there are really very few upsides.

Mods note - split from here

Warburtons do a nice half length loaf but with the standard sized cross section, so I know that I'll usually end up eating most of it before it goes green (without having to put up with silly mini-slices).

 

[Sm5]

In my experience: 1) the freshly baked bread is not cheaper, 2) Pre packaged bread lasts much longer than freshly baked. I bought a loaf today that will still be good on Friday. The freshly baked loaf I also bought will be no good on Monday.

Just think of all the preservatives needed to make pre-packaged bread, then transport it, store it until you buy it, and then still needed to make it last until friday…
And then those preservatives are inside you… presumably preserving part of yourself too in ways that science won’t discover until long after youve gone.

vs

Something natural that decays like most natural things within a few days but usually also contains natural elements which are often better for you that are removed due to their having a naturally short life.

of course making your own bread, means you control the ingrediants, and of course how much you make and when to freeze it… bags of flour are cheaper than loaves of bread… Making bread can be faster than walking to the shop to buy it…its not hard.

Easy white bread

A great recipe for an electric breadmaker – or do it the traditional way

www.bbcgoodfood.com

indeed let me help you…


Warburtons loaf*

Wheat Flour [with Calcium, Iron, Niacin (B3) and Thiamin (B1)], Water, Yeast, Salt, Vegetable Oils (Sunflower, Rapeseed and Sustainable Palm in varying proportions), Soya Flour, Preservative: Calcium Propionate; Emulsifiers: E481, E472e; Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C ).


BBC Reciepe

Flour, Salt, Yeast, Olive Oil, Water


*https://www.warburtons.co.uk/products/bread/white/medium-white-800g/

 

[Bald Rick]

Just think of all the preservatives needed to make pre-packaged bread, then transport it, store it until you buy it, and then still needed to make it last until friday…
And then those preservatives are inside you… presumably preserving part of yourself too in ways that science won’t discover until long after youve gone.

vs

Something natural that decays like most natural things within a few days but usually also contains natural elements which are often better for you that are removed due to their having a naturally short life.

of course making your own bread, means you control the ingrediants, and of course how much you make and when to freeze it… bags of flour are cheaper than loaves of bread… Making bread can be faster than walking to the shop to buy it…its not hard.

Easy white bread

A great recipe for an electric breadmaker – or do it the traditional way

www.bbcgoodfood.com

indeed let me help you…


Warburtons loaf*

Wheat Flour [with Calcium, Iron, Niacin (B3) and Thiamin (B1)], Water, Yeast, Salt, Vegetable Oils (Sunflower, Rapeseed and Sustainable Palm in varying proportions), Soya Flour, Preservative: Calcium Propionate; Emulsifiers: E481, E472e; Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C ).


BBC Reciepe

Flour, Salt, Yeast, Olive Oil, Water


*https://www.warburtons.co.uk/products/bread/white/medium-white-800g/

Like pretty much everybody, I don’t have the time to make bread Every couple of days.

Also, I eat 2 slices a day, and no one else in the house eats it regularly. If I made it myself I’d be throwing it away., having spent a lot of money on ingredients and energy.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Like pretty much everybody, I don’t have the time to make bread Every couple of days.

Also, I eat 2 slices a day, and no one else in the house eats it regularly. If I made it myself I’d be throwing it away., having spent a lot of money on ingredients and energy.

The thing that seems to escape a lot of people is that you can freeze bread and for that matter milk...

 

[takno]

Just think of all the preservatives needed to make pre-packaged bread, then transport it, store it until you buy it, and then still needed to make it last until friday…
And then those preservatives are inside you… presumably preserving part of yourself too in ways that science won’t discover until long after youve gone.

vs

Something natural that decays like most natural things within a few days but usually also contains natural elements which are often better for you that are removed due to their having a naturally short life.

of course making your own bread, means you control the ingrediants, and of course how much you make and when to freeze it… bags of flour are cheaper than loaves of bread… Making bread can be faster than walking to the shop to buy it…its not hard.

Easy white bread

A great recipe for an electric breadmaker – or do it the traditional way

www.bbcgoodfood.com

indeed let me help you…


Warburtons loaf*

Wheat Flour [with Calcium, Iron, Niacin (B3) and Thiamin (B1)], Water, Yeast, Salt, Vegetable Oils (Sunflower, Rapeseed and Sustainable Palm in varying proportions), Soya Flour, Preservative: Calcium Propionate; Emulsifiers: E481, E472e; Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C ).


BBC Reciepe

Flour, Salt, Yeast, Olive Oil, Water


*https://www.warburtons.co.uk/products/bread/white/medium-white-800g/

If this is going to turn into a poorly-informed argument about big bread and their evil use of science to produce tasty low-waste products then I'm out. I thought we were discussing prices?

 

[Bald Rick]

The thing that seems to escape a lot of people is that you can freeze bread and for that matter milk...

yep I freeze the bread. But it’s never as good when defrosted, particularly if it’s homemade stuff.

 

[Busaholic]

yep I freeze the bread. But it’s never as good when defrosted, particularly if it’s homemade stuff.

It loses taste (if it ever had any) and texture: most products not specifically designed for freezing never taste so good from the freezer, whether you have to defrost or not. The figures too on the huge amount that goes into freezers and, in the end, gets chucked out is staggering, and I admit to not being an exception.

 

[Sm5]

Like pretty much everybody, I don’t have the time to make bread Every couple of days.

Also, I eat 2 slices a day, and no one else in the house eats it regularly. If I made it myself I’d be throwing it away., having spent a lot of money on ingredients and energy.

And thats why we have freezers. Frozen home made bread is no worse than frozen supermarket bread, indeed its still got more benefits.

if you havent the time to make it, then your obviously earning enought to buy it. So why complain of the price of it ?

already showed the ingrediants are way less than buying a loaf, unless of course your buying a really rough brand, in which case your getting what you paid for, in which case thats more about your value of food than the price of it.

cheaper solutions are available, but if everyone just wants to whinge about price then they havent really got an issue at all, as alternative cheaper choices are available, but only if its really an issue.

 

[Bald Rick]

Frozen home made bread is no worse than frozen supermarket bread

in my experience, this Isn’t the case.

if you havent the time to make it, then your obviously earning enought to buy it. So why complain of the price of it ?

? How do you ‘buy’ home made bread? unless I was to employ a baker?

 

[Sm5]

in my experience, this Isn’t the case.

i hate to break it to you, but much of that supermarket bread has been pre-frozen, then defrosted and baked.

? How do you ‘buy’ home made bread? unless I was to employ a baker?

Simple… buy the ingredients, make it yourself. Flour is less than £1 and will make multiple loaves.
15 mins prep and your done.

i’m not even going to calculate the cost of a few spoons of salt and olive oil as it really is pennies.

if your really hard up and complaining of the price of a loaf, you have a solution.
if not, then its just another first world problem.

personally I think people are just too lazy and too used to having it too easy…now the price is rising they are moaning about something they cannot change but with some effort of their own bare hands…

economising is an option and still live a same livestyle, down the road more people may not have such a nice choice, this country isnt getting any better and prices are only ever going one way.

clearly it doesnt work for everything, buying a cow or a chicken is certainly less practical, but sticking an onion in a plant pot on your window sill will give you months worth of onion chives… costs nowt, in time or money, but then so do onions, at the moment.

Learning to cook, to offset higher food prices, are you really going to argue thats a bad thing ?
or am I off piste is this thread solely about whinging of higher prices not solutions ?

 

[ABB125]

unless I was to employ a baker?

Based on my experience growing up, you could employ young master/miss Bald Rick. Good learning opportunity.
Or, more likely, "no dinner until you've prepared tomorrow's bread"!

My grandparents used to make bread, it was very nice, much better than supermarket bread. But it was never frozen

 

[Bald Rick]

i hate to break it to you, but much of that supermarket bread has been pre-frozen, then defrosted and baked.

I know. But this is rather different to freezing bread after it has been baked, which was the point Being made.

Simple… buy the ingredients, make it yourself. Flour is less than £1 and will make multiple loaves.
15 mins prep and your done.

But as I said, I don’t have the time for this. And with my smart meter saying my oven costs about 60p an hour to run, there’s also energy costs to think about.

neverhtless, I am not, and never have done, complained about the price of bread.

Based on my experience growing up, you could employ young master/miss Bald Rick. Good learning opportunity.
Or, more likely, "no dinner until you've prepared tomorrow's bread"!

My grandparents used to make bread, it was very nice, much better than supermarket bread. But it was never frozen

There is zero chance of that in my house!

 

[Cowley]

If this is going to turn into a poorly-informed argument about big bread and their evil use of science to produce tasty low-waste products then I'm out. I thought we were discussing prices?

“Big bread”

It’s got its very own thread now…

 

[DelayRepay]

I freeze bread - I live on my own and never use a full loaf before it starts to go off.

But I find that when I defrost it, it's dry and only good for toast (or, as a treat, bread and butter pudding!).

So do the bread freezers of this forum have any advice on how to prevent it going dry? Do I need to use a special wrapper?

 

[DarloRich]

This is a very odd thread - it has gone a bit lentlilly and right on student!

@Bald Rick is spot on regarding time and freezing bread. I havent got the time, patience or inclination to make bread. it is also very cardboardy if defrosted

 

[Acey]

I've been making my own bread for some years .usually 3 loaves a week using ordinary plain flour,I used to use strong bread flour but after making about 20 using plain flour haven't really noticed much difference( except the price ) but I also buy a brown and a white in Sainsbury's for 39p each ( full size loaf ) which I keep in the freezer for emergencies and it's not bad at all !

 

[bspahh]

I can weigh out the ingredients for a loaf of bread in 2 minutes. Its then a couple of hours in a breadmaker.

I don't know how much it costs to power the breadmaker. The power rating for my one is 550W, and most of that power will be for the heating, which is for less than an hour.

My top tip is to revive a stale baguette by wiping the surface with water, and microwaving it for 20s. You can then bake it for a 5 minutes to make the crust crispy again. Its then nice to eat, for a few minutes. Once it cools down, then it becomes an alternative to lead piping if your acting out Cluedo.

 

[philjo]

We get a wholemeal loaf from our local bakery. They slice it and out it into paper wrapper. This lasts almost a week without going mouldy and toasts well.
I find if the bread is in a plastic wrapper it sweats and then goes mouldy within a few days. So the paper wrapper is much better.

 

[Bald Rick]

I take some responsibility for this thread (sorry mods).

But it’s the best thing since… something I can’t quite put my finger on!

 

[DarloRich]

But it’s the best thing since… something I can’t quite put my finger on!

Is buttered toast the ultimate comfort food? I maintain that the cheapest white bread makes the best toast.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

I maintain that the cheapest white bread makes the best toast.

You may have a point. Reckon that inexpensive white bread also works really well when it's part of a sausage sandwich.

 

[DarloRich]

You may have a point. Reckon that inexpensive white bread also works really well when it's part of a sausage sandwich.

Is the correct answer!

Any form of warm sandwich requires the cheap white bread. A dry sandwich/cold sandwich calls for brown bread imo.

 

[Cowley]

Is buttered toast the ultimate comfort food? I maintain that the cheapest white bread makes the best toast.

I remember there being
poll a while ago that said freshly buttered toast was the nation’s favourite smell.

Oh god I really want some now!

 

[yorksrob]

Only covered in baked beans or spaghetti hoops though !

 

[Bald Rick]

Is buttered toast the ultimate comfort food? I maintain that the cheapest white bread makes the best toast.

Yes, but I will now get specific:

for the very best buttered toast comfort food experience, you need thick white bread from a fresh loaf (from Tesco or Morrisons, not Sainsburys), at least two slices, one of which must be the crust, with Welsh butter, and lashings of Marmite.

 

[DarloRich]

Yes, but I will now get specific:

for the very best buttered toast comfort food experience, you need thick white bread from a fresh loaf (from Tesco or Morrisons, not Sainsburys), at least two slices, one of which must be the crust, with Welsh butter, and lashings of Marmite.

I can agree to your bread stance but butter AND Marmite is a step too far!

 

[swt_passenger]

Yes, but I will now get specific:

for the very best buttered toast comfort food experience, you need thick white bread from a fresh loaf (from Tesco or Morrisons, not Sainsburys), at least two slices, one of which must be the crust, with Welsh butter, and lashings of Marmite.

Objection, eny fule kno “lashings” is reserved for a quantity of ginger beer…

 

[Mcr Warrior]

...for the very best buttered toast comfort food experience, you need thick white bread from a fresh loaf (from Tesco or Morrisons, not Sainsburys), at least two slices, one of which must be the crust, with Welsh butter, and lashings of Marmite.

Was with you all the way, my friend , and then you just went and ruined everything!

 

[Bald Rick]

Oh come on! Can’t believe there’s that many Marmite haters out there!

Next you’ll be saying that you don’t rate thickly spread peanut butter on thick white bread!

 

[DarloRich]

Oh come on! Can’t believe there’s that many Marmite haters out there!

Next you’ll be saying that you don’t rate thickly spread peanut butter on thick white bread!

hold on - don't chuck me in with the haters. I like marmite, just not with butter

You peanut butter: Crunchy obviously?