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Blackpool - Manchester Electrification

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geoffk

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Gralistair has kindly sent a recent shot of a Pendolino at Blackpool North.
Thank you Gralistair.

I made my first trip on the Blackpool line today since electrification, arriving on a Pendolino at 11.55. This and the other Pendo I saw were nine-car (more than adequate I would think) but are 11-car units also used (apart from the May test train)? Platforms 1 and 2 look long enough for 11. The lifts at Kirkham were not in use - are they out of order or not yet commissioned?
 
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Platforms 1 and 2 are indeed long enough for 11-cars.

The 1053 departure today was scheduled for an 11-car, not sure what actual unit it was.
 

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Don't forget that even after it all goes live there's all the approvals and paperwork to do which in the GW seems to have taken months. I don't think there yet using electric mode beyond Didcot despite the wires being live for several months.
K

On the other hand, Blackpool went live, was tested, and in use for passenger services within two or three weeks.

It should be emphasised that there are minimal changes to the timetable this December; TPE will still be running via Wigan. Hopefully we'll start to see 319s cascaded onto the Northern services though.
 

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These could be relevant for the M61 bridge - they do mention lane 3 but also the left lane, and also the reference to barrier rather than central reservation? Thoughts?
Roadworks on M61 https://roadworks.org/?108057315
Roadworks on M61 https://roadworks.org/?108057318

Apparently the parapet over the Wigan line should be completed by 1 Oct. Have these been done?
https://roadworks.org/?34802798
https://roadworks.org/?34802796
There is nothing indicated on either map on the M61 bridge.
 

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There is nothing indicated on either map on the M61 bridge.
Yes but if you read the description, for example
M61 North & southbound Junction 5 - 8 lane 3 closed due to barrier retensioning
The website uses 1 marker to cover the whole area from Jct. 5-8
 

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Yes but if you read the description, for example
The website uses 1 marker to cover the whole area from Jct. 5-8
They wouldn't close between 3 junctions for work on 1 bridge and besides lane 3 is the outside lane nearest the central barrier on both carriageways.
 

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What's goes on when it's turned on?

I imagine its a very tense night, bad enough turning the power back on when you've done some re-wiring in your house!
 

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However we also have the statement in #8362 that testing is scheduled from 8th Oct.

Also the letter says "will be energised".

I notice the letter doesn't mention Ordsall Lane to Crescent.
 

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However we also have the statement in #8362 that testing is scheduled from 8th Oct.

Also the letter says "will be energised".

I notice the letter doesn't mention Ordsall Lane to Crescent.
Weird, I would have expected that first

To be fair, it's like a letter sent to residents/other non-railway people, rather than the formal 'Treat as Live' notice issued to railway staff. Hence the rather vague definition of the limits of electrification.
 

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Hi everyone, forgive me if this isn't the right place to ask but in the May 2018 timetable it listed a direct Macclesfield to Blackpool North service. When the work is finally completed on the line between Manchester and Preston, will this service still be introduced?
 

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I travelled by train Southport-Wigan-Bolton then to the two Salfords and back earlier today.

I had high and probably unrealistic expectations of progress at the Salfords, given their complete closure over the weekend. I fully acknowledge that there may have been material progress which left few signs, such as underground or out of view from the stations and tracks from the north. There were several heaps of fresh-looking excavations on the platform ends at Salford Central, with possible evidence of signalling work. There were small groups of Orangemen near S Crescent, one group engaged in de-veging, another in fence reinstatement.

The only significant electrification progress I could see in the area was the extension of contact and catenary (CC) wires over both tracks from Oldfield Road to a short distance short of the western ends of Salford Central platforms, including an overrun into the CEMEX siding. This included putting the putative final mast to use as an SSA (self-supporting anchor). There are still no CC over the tracks through S Central station.

I couldn't see any changes at Salford Crescent.

That was disappointing, but there was encouraging progress in the hitherto problem area between Farnworth and Moses Gate. Travelling up from Salford I reckon CC is now up over the Up track from the worksite a short distance north of Clifton, as far as Lever St footbridge. I couldn't see any changes over the Down, so that appears to remain as CC up over the Down from the worksite south of Kearsley, also to Lever St. Wrinkley toured the Farnworth to Green Lane area this morning, I'm sure his report will give more detail and maybe explain the purpose of the unusual things on the Up side in the Squeeze Belly Entry area.

I couldn't see any changes from Lever St to Lostock. Bolton Platforms 1 and 5 remain CC-less.

Photos later.
 
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Manchester Victoria - Preston; State of Play, week beginning 10th September 2018.

All masts in! 78/98 wire runs complete. Due to go LIVE on 28th September.
Based on wiring completion by the end of September, the week beginning 8/10/18 will see test runs; 10/10/18 specifically pencilled in for Pendolini.

All mileages from Manchester Victoria. Bridge mileages are approximated where noted.

1. Man Vic Station (West End) - Man Vic West Jct - Deal Street Jct; 0m 0ch to 0m 32ch
Fully wired 2013-15. Platforms 1 & 2 at Man Vic have now been bedanglied.

2. Deal Street Jct - Salford Central (East End); 0m 32ch to 0m 59ch
Fully masted. Limit of electrification is currently at 0m 46ch; SPS is up along the unwired stretch.

3. Salford Central; 0m 59ch
Fully masted, most SPS (Small Part Steelwork e.g. dangly bits) up. The missing mast at the western end is now up, and is now in use as an SSA (self-supporting anchor), though insulators are yet to be spliced in. Earth wire now up on the Up side through the station. Lift to the westbound platform now open again.
The wires also overlap into the CEMEX sidings.


4. Salford Central (West End) - Windsor Bridge South Jct; 0m 59ch to 1m 46ch
Two runs of Earth wire are up. Catenary & contact wires are now also up from west of Salford Central to Agecroft; details below.

5. Windsor Bridge South Jct - Windsor Bridge North Jct (inc. Salford Crescent); 1m 46ch to 1m 70ch
Windsor Bridge South Jct now wired (catenary/contact) from the Deal St direction on both the Up & Down Salford Lines; however, the Up Bolton line is fully wired through Salford Crescent, and terminated just north of Windsor Bridge North Jct. Earth wires (+ AT wires) are also in situ here.
All lines through Salford Crescent are wired with the exception of P1 (which is wireless).
Repairs to the wooden fence on the eastern side have/are taken/taking place.
Further wiring details:
Up Bolton is wired from Agecroft South Jn, to Windsor Bridge South Jn (via the avoiding line at Crescent), where the wires continue onto the Up Salford, ending just south of Salford Central.
Agecroft South Jct Crossover is now fully wired.
The same length is wired on the Down Salford/Down Bolton, through P2 (Down platform) at Crescent.
In addition, the crossover from the Down Bolton to the Up/Dn Bolton (Crescent P1) is wired, but only this section - the wires do not continue to meet the Up Bolton.
The crossover between the Up and Down Salford at Windsor Bridge South Jn is also wired.
No wires between Windsor Bridge South Jn and the existing limit of electrification at Ordsall Lane, no wires on Platform 1 and nothing on the overrun towards Atherton.


6. Windsor Bridge North Jct - Clifton (South End); 1m 70ch to 4m 57ch
Catenary & contact wires are up from west of Salford Central to Agecroft (Sth Jct, by the bin terminal) over both lines.
Between Frederick Rd & Broughton Rd (2m 26ch) bridges, the Up side earth wire extends south from Broughton Rd as far as the line is visible.
Between Broughton Rd Bridge & Cockrobin Bridge, the Up side earth wire is up (for about 4 masts northwards, thru Pendleton Old).
North of Cockrobin Bridge, an Earth wire and an AT wire have gone up on the Down (northbound) side.
Both lines are wired (C&C) between Agecroft North Jn and a point roughly level with the north end of HMP Forest Bank (aka Strangeways); C&C wires on the Down are now confirmed to start a few hundred yards south of Clifton.
At Park House Rd Bridge, the first earth wire is now up on the Up side.
Lot of masts with SPS up on the southern approach to Clifton.

7. Clifton Station; 4m 57ch
Fully masted. No wires. Drainage manhole modules awaiting installation; temporary covers are over their future homes.

8. Clifton (North End) - Bolton (South End); 4m 57ch to 10m 50ch
Brackets are fitted to the underside of the M60 overbridge. Bridge MVE1 27B (immediately NW of this) is fully erected, but unopened, and work the walkway is not yet finished.
Earth wires now up between Clifton & Kearsley; the Down side is continuous but it is unknown if the Up side is identically so.
Both lines are fully wired from well south of Kearsley, through Kearsley Station and through Farnworth Tunnel to stop at Lever St Footbridge (just south of Bolton station). The Down Line wiring also has a break in the Dixon Fold area.
Earth wire certainly in through Farnworth tunnel, and the stations at Farnworth & Moses Gate.

SPS and Tensorex drums appearing on some masts/cantilevers around Burnden Jct (10m 09ch).
The Platform 5 Line is fully wired (C&C) from the points at Weston St to Orlando St Bridge.
The Platform 4 Line (Down Bolton) is now wired from Weston Street through Bolton to the existing wired section at Lostock; ditto the Platform 3 Line (Up Bolton).
South of Lever Street footbridge, the Up Line now has ATF wires installed.

9. Bolton Station; 10m 50ch
All masts in the station area are now in place. Earth wires now in.
Platform 1: Bolts & brackets now drilled into the glazed brick retaining wall opposite the platform. Wiring team focused on P1 during 30/8.
Platform 2: Line is fully wired (C&C) from the points at Weston St to the SSA (Self-Supporting Anchor - aka "the wicketkeeper"). Insulators have yet to be installed on the wicketkeeper, and most fixings are still temporary. Buffers look finished.
Platform 3 (Up Bolton): Wired from Orlando St Bridge, through the station, and onwards to Lostock & the WCML. The majority of fixings used are permanent (some are still temporary).
Platform 4 (Down Bolton): Wired from Weston Street through P4 and onwards to Lostock & the WCML.
Platform 5: Unwired in the station; drainage work ongoing.
Platforms 98% open to public; the 2% not open is a fenced-off section of canopy support to the right of signal "MP9239". Canopies look complete.

10. Bolton (North End) - Lostock (South End); 10m 50ch to 13m 52ch
Both the Up (P3) & Down (P4) Bolton Lines have been wired from Bolton station, past Lostock ATF Sectioning Station, over Lostock Jct and through Lostock Station to the existing wires at Golf Course Footbridge.
The run of masts between Newport St & the NW end of P5 now have their earth wire affixed.
The crossover NW of Newport Street has not been wired yet.
Between the 2nd & 3rd bridges NW of Newport St (the unknown bridge & Dawes St), the mast in photo A732m has led a chequered life, being assembled, dismantled and then re-assembled!It has now been reinstated parallel to the two bridges it was installed between, and already bears the wires on the Down Bolton (temporary fixings, AFAIK).
Cable ducting troughs laid in the Down Side Cess between Bolton Station, past Newport Street, under Soho Street, Black Horse St & New St, and through Bullfield Tunnel.
The overrun along the line to Blackburn (as far as Bradshawgate Tunnel) looks nearly ready for SPS & wires.
Earth wire up on the Down side west of Moor St Tunnel.

Between Moor Lane & Lostock, Earth wires have already been strung.
Autotransformer wires now largely up between Moor Lane & Mayor St. Bridges, and between Lostock & Ladybridge (on both lines).
A UTX has been installed in the "vee" in Lostock Jct; this now takes the ATF wires for both routes at Lostock Jct.
Most (if not all) wires are now up over Lostock Jct itself.
All masts now up on the Wigan overlap; earth wires now up too, in varying lengths on both sides. C&C wires also up on the overlap on both lines until the Limit of Wiring. Some dnagly arms have not yet bee installed.

11. Lostock Station; 13m 52ch
Switchgear box delivered 6th April '18. Over the August Bank Holiday Weekend, the two Autotransformers (AT1 & AT2) were delivered.
Both Preston Lines wired through the station to connect with the existing wires north of "Golf Course" footbridge.
Platform extension/resurfacing work complete on the Down platform (fully) and the Up platform (NW of the station bridge); work on the Up platform still ongoing east of the bridge.
ATF wires for both the Preston & Wigan Lines are in through the UTXs around the station.

12. Lostock (North End) - Euxton Jct; 13m 52ch to 25m 31ch
Two more UTXs have been installed in the "vee" between the Preston & Wigan lines, to the north of Lostock station; one takes the ATF wires for the Wigan Line, the other does the same for the Preston Line.
Immediately north of Lostock, the closest TTCs to the platforms have now sprouted part of their switchgear kit.
All C&C wires up on both lines from south of Bolton, through Lostock, Horwich, Blackrod & Adlington, over Yarrow Viaduct, through Chorley Station, Chorley Tunnel, the Flying Arches & Buckshaw Parkway to the WCML.
Temp. fixings still evident at Buckshaw Pkwy & Adlington stns. AT & earth wires not always present, but the C&C appears continuous.
On Yarrow Viaduct, the northern portal has now been installed. The Down side Earth wire is also up, but the Down side AT wire is still absent. (It is assumed this is replicated on the Up side.)
AT wires still need installation/remedial work at Station Rd Bridge (Blackrod; B5238; 17m 9ch) At least one registration arm still needs final fixing there too.
At Railway Rd Bridge (Adlington; 19m 0148yds), AT wires (and some earth wires) still need to be installed.
Within Adlington Station, temporary fixings (i.e. pulleys) are still extant. Orangemen were digging ducting trenches for the Earthing bonds for the TTCs on the Up platform.
Orangemen at work on the footpath at the foot of the northern steps of Heath Charnock FB.
Through Chorley Station, all wires bar the AT wires are installed.
The Buckshaw Parkway crossover is also wired.
Within Buckshaw Pkwy, the registration arms on the footbridge are not yet in position.

Do let me know if I've missed anything!
 

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"Repairs to the wooden fence on the eastern side have/are taken/taking place."

It had gone again tonight, some kind of walkway going in round the back?
No, not from what I saw on @LDECRexile's shots. Looked more like repairs (or formwork for repairs) to the wall where the OLE masts were affixed; lots of clearance works had to be done IIRC.
 

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Not directly OHLE relatated but Bolton P5 was in use today due to all the extra traffic, ex Crows Nest Jc which decided to die locked in the Bolton direction today.
 

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GSoP Post 19.0
Manchester Victoria - Preston; State of Play, week beginning 10th September 2018.

All masts in! 78/98 wire runs complete. Due to go LIVE on 28th September.
Based on wiring completion by the end of September, the week beginning 8/10/18 will see test runs; 10/10/18 specifically pencilled in for Pendolini.
With 20 wire runs still to do 28th Sept would seem to me a bit optimistic.
They really seem to be getting there act together on electrification pity Mr bi mode grayling has pulled the plug on many future schemes.
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