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Bittern gets a makeover

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In Heritage Railway this month, it's announced that 60019 'Bittern' is secretly being transformed into 4492 'Dominion of New Zealand'. She's losing her Brunswick Green and taking on the LNER Garter Blue with the wheel skirts (think Mallard's preserved form).

What I don't understand is why the identity change. Why not just repaint her in Garter Blue and add the skirts but keep her own identification?
 
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TomJ93

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I always had a soft spot for Bittern, Union of south Africa (and the deerly departed Silver Link).

Shame about the name change.
 

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I should add htis is due to last until the next overhaul in three years time according to HR.
 

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Bittern has got to be the most unlucky loco in steam at the moment

She 'causes fires', she fails and has to suffer the indignity of getting hauled back by a diesel and then, unfortunately, one of the crew gets taken ill and later dies

Hopefully, this year will see it's luck change under a new guise
 

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I'm not happy about this! Ok there's nothing I can do about it but why mess on with the paint job and name change! Bittern is Bittern at the end of the day! She has her own identity and shouldn't be changed into another loco just for the sake of change! Bittern holds a special place in my heart and I'll make sure not to visit or pay for any trips until she returns to her normal guise!
 

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:neutral:Isn't it coming up to April 1st................?..............

Indeed, but this story has been repeated in more than one magazine - it's very unlikely that two editorial teams would come up with the same joke! :)

Of course, the same story may have been fed by someone else to both magazines...

EDIT: According to the National Preservation forums, one magazine (Heritage Railway) has confirmed that, to the best of their knowledge, this really is happening.
 

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When I saw this article in the April issue of Heritage Railway my first thought was that it was an attempt at an April fool joke, especially as they said the work was going on in secret.

However, it would be nice to see a working A4 returned to LNER livery with side skirts.

I do have to say though, that with all these frequent repaints and ID changes, soon they'll be starting to repaint one end of a loco before the previous repaint of the other end has been completed!!
 

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This seems like a bizarre decision. I advocate the return of “Union of South Africa” to original condition in garter blue livery, as a lot of the heritage of that loco is lost when it is painted in late BR green as by that point in its’ history the train it was built to haul had long been disbanded, so the relevance of the loco is missed somewhat.

However repainting “Bittern” and disguising it as one of the sister “Coronation” locos to “…South Africa” seems very strange. Bittern seems to have spent a lot of its’ preserved life in the midst of an identity crisis, after spending some of the early nineties masquerading as “Silver Link”: So they took the skirts they fabricated for it off to return it to the main line in BR form, and now they want to put them back on again??? Make up your mind, for gods’ sake! The prospect of a garter blue A4 in original condition on the main line is absolutely mouth watering, and I find the oh-so-prevalent BR dark green livery an insult to the lines of the locomotives and very drab to look at: But what is wrong with doing that and letting the loco retain its’ true identity as 4464?

Thsi really does have all the makings of a wind up, if it actually is true as is being reported then I'm astounded!
 

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Much Ado about nothing.

Why is it people get so uptight about bodywork/paint/names on these over-rated East Coast locos?

Many preserved diesels have had indentities changed to 'fallen members' of the class. I don't recall seeing a heck of a lot of trouble over it. Blimey, a Class 40 has been painted in to a never worn livery for any of the Class, as have two Class 50s (50044+50017), so perhaps it's lucky it will still look like a 'real' A4 rather than a cartoon character.
 

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I suppose at the end of the day that the number on a loco is just a bit of paint on the bodywork, so if the owner(s) of “Bittern” want to do this then fair play to them, as they’re putting the effort in to keep it running, but it doesn’t half seem like a bizarre course of action to take out of the options they have open to them.
 

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While I agree that it would be great to see an A4 in original blue (having advocated it many times) the name change daft. I can understand 5051 masquerading as Isembard Kingdom Brunel for a day or two, but that used wooden nameplates and stickers. Silver Link was a fairly good idea, a recreation of the first A4 in a livery not seen for fifty years to the time.

I don't suppose the New Zealand High Commissioner is sponsoring it, because if so, Commonwealth of Australia should be next on the list.
 

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Personally, I'm all for the preservation movement doing this sort of thing. It opens up more opportunities to savour what many of us never could, back in the day.

I was more than happy when 34027 Taw Valley took on the temporary identity of 34045 Ottery St Mary; and I didn't throw a cam when 60009 took the name Osprey for a long while.

Selfishly, I'd love to see Bittern have another makeover as Silver Link / King / Fox. I was away from the rail scene for 20 years and missed that.
 

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Many preserved diesels have had indentities changed to 'fallen members' of the class.

Yes ........I was amazed at how many class 52s had been preserved - then I discovered they were all Western Champion (well, nearly all !) :lol::lol:
 

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I wish someone would put up a tutorial on how to relivery something in photoshop. :(

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Shouldn't the GNER logo be on the tender?
 

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Found this online:

2u9o202.jpg


She's looking great!
 
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