Billericay to Ickenham

[super_sprinter]

Hi all

Next week I'll be spending the day working in Ickenham.

I'll be leaving BIC on the first off-peak train at 0937. I'm not sure how long I'll be there, so it is possible that I might be travelling back in the peak.

I was thinking a peak travelcard (all zones) might be best, but I do have Oyster or contactless as an option for the tube part of the journey.

I'm planning on just taking the Met line from Liverpool Street (approx 50 mins to an hour), but if anyone has any route suggestions that would break up the Tube journey that would be appreciated. I did look at the possibility of using Chiltern from Marylebone to Sudbury Hill and then taking the Piccadilly line from there.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ainsworth74]

A Billericay to London Zones 1 - 6 Off-Peak Day Travelcard at £23.70 should meet your requirements. It's valid on any train timed to arrive at Liverpool Street after 1000 on the outward portion whilst the return portion has no time restriction (that's relevant anyway) and the Travelcard bit of the ticket is valid after 0930 and has no evening peak restriction. Ickenham is in Zone 6 so unless you want to go further a Zone 1 - 9 Travelcard isn't any use.

 

[Joe Paxton]

Assuming you don't have a Railcard...

Billericay to London (Liv St) - Off-Peak Day Return £17.30
Billericay to London - Off-Peak Day Travelcard £23.70

So the Travelcard premium is £6.40.

Then using the TfL Single fare finder, check the Tube fare for Liverpool St (zone 1) to Ickenham (zone 6) - which is £3.10 off-peak.
Note that for Oyster/contactless there is an evening peak period (for journeys starting between 4pm-7pm), but for journeys in the evening peak into zone 1 you are charged the off-peak fare (logic being that most people are going the other way, out of zone 1, which is charged at the peak fare).

So for Oyster/contactless the total fare there and back would be £6.20. So you can save all of twenty pence if you do that rather than buy a Travelcard (is a Freddo chocolate bar still 20p?!).

The Travelcard would give you flexibility to do other things if you wanted.

P.S. You do not need an expensive Peak Travelcard - an Off-Peak Travelcard is fine! (The evening peak period for Oyster/contactless has no relevance for Off-peak Day Travelcards.)

 

[soil]

Billericay - BZ6 CDR is £8.00
ODT z1-6 is £12.30

Total £20.30

 

[iphone76]

Another tip would be an off-peak day return from Billericay to Stratford for £12.80 and then £1.50 each way from Stratford to Ickenham via the London Overground to Finchley Road & Frognal / Finchley Road. This comes to £15.80 return.

You may have to touch in on the London Overground platforms at Stratford (pink readers) to ensure you get charged the correct fare - others may be able to give you advice on that.

 

[Joe Paxton]

Billericay - BZ6 CDR is £8.00
ODT z1-6 is £12.30

Total £20.30

Ah, good thinking!

If doing this, then is a Billericay - Harold Wood CDR (first station in zone 6) plus the Day Travelcard a valid combination too? I'm a bit hazy about what is and isn't legit in these situations.

The reason for asking is that a Billericay - Harold Wood CDR can easily be bought online in combination with a Day Travelcard, which would eliminate any need to try and coax a potentially unwilling ticket clerk at Billericay into selling the other combination.

 

[soil]

Ah, good thinking!

If doing this, then is a Billericay - Harold Wood CDR (first station in zone 6) plus the Day Travelcard a valid combination too? I'm a bit hazy about what is and isn't legit in these situations.

The reason for asking is that a Billericay - Harold Wood CDR can easily be bought online in combination with a Day Travelcard, which would eliminate any need to try and coax a potentially unwilling ticket clerk at Billericay into selling the other combination.

No, both tickets need to be zonal.

I'm not sure what the rules are with Brentwood though?

Are there normally trains from Billericay to Brentwood? At the moment due to engineering works, there are not.

But possibly you could do a Z1-9 travelcard (£13.10), and a Billericay - Brentwood £5.90 CDR = £19 But maybe not valid as not currently timetabled? (there is no boundary zone 9 destination)

 

[soil]

Another tip would be an off-peak day return from Billericay to Stratford for £12.80 and then £1.50 each way from Stratford to Ickenham via the London Overground to Finchley Road & Frognal / Finchley Road. This comes to £15.80 return.

You may have to touch in on the London Overground platforms at Stratford (pink readers) to ensure you get charged the correct fare - others may be able to give you advice on that.

You could split at Romford as well and go via the same route. Need to touch in at Romford in this case. This reduces the cost to £14.00 or £14.20 depending on return time.

 

[MikeWh]

You may have to touch in on the London Overground platforms at Stratford (pink readers) to ensure you get charged the correct fare - others may be able to give you advice on that.

If you are starting using contactless at Stratford then you should use a yellow reader. The pink reader will start a journey, but it WON'T end it going the other way, so I tend to advise against using it to start. If you are starting using contactless at Romford then you will need to use the pink reader at Stratford to indicate that you've avoided zone 1.

 

[higthomas]

Ah, good thinking!

If doing this, then is a Billericay - Harold Wood CDR (first station in zone 6) plus the Day Travelcard a valid combination too? I'm a bit hazy about what is and isn't legit in these situations.

The reason for asking is that a Billericay - Harold Wood CDR can easily be bought online in combination with a Day Travelcard, which would eliminate any need to try and coax a potentially unwilling ticket clerk at Billericay into selling the other combination.

No, both tickets need to be zonal.

I'm not sure what the rules are with Brentwood though?

I think Soil's wrong on this one.
From the National Rail Conditions of travel:

14.2 If you are using a Season Ticket, daily Zonal Ticket, or another area based Ticket such as a concessionary pass, ranger or rover in conjunction with another Ticket and the last station at which one Ticket is valid and the first station that the other Ticket is valid are the same, then the train does not need to call at that station for your combination to be valid.

So I think that your combination should be valid, and is probably the easiest.

 

[soil]

looks like another change from the nrcoc

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1179633&postcount=10

So the z1-9 travelcard and the cdr to brentwood works out cheaper

 

[W-on-Sea]

If you time it right, and depending on where exactly your workplace is, it might be quicker to use Chiltern Railways from Marylebone to West Ruislip, instead of getting the Met to Ickenham (the stations are maybe a 10 minute walk apart). Trains from Marylebone at 46 minutes past most hour take just 20 mins to get there, those at 16 or 17 minutes past the hour take 27 mins. I'd walk to Marylebone from Baker Street rather than changing for the Bakerloo I think.

 

[W-on-Sea]

That would also allow you to get an off-peak day return from Billericay to West Ruislip for £13.20, or if you need an anytime day return, that's £17.95

 

[Joe Paxton]

That would also allow you to get an off-peak day return from Billericay to West Ruislip for £13.20, or if you need an anytime day return, that's £17.95

You have quoted Railcard discounted fares, which explains why they are so out of kilter with the other fares mentioned earlier in this thread! The OP didn't mention they had a Railcard.

 

[LAX54]

Hi all

Next week I'll be spending the day working in Ickenham.

I'll be leaving BIC on the first off-peak train at 0937. I'm not sure how long I'll be there, so it is possible that I might be travelling back in the peak.

I was thinking a peak travelcard (all zones) might be best, but I do have Oyster or contactless as an option for the tube part of the journey.

I'm planning on just taking the Met line from Liverpool Street (approx 50 mins to an hour), but if anyone has any route suggestions that would break up the Tube journey that would be appreciated. I did look at the possibility of using Chiltern from Marylebone to Sudbury Hill and then taking the Piccadilly line from there.

Thanks in advance.

Gosh...Ickenham ! went to school there in the mid 60's lived next to the Main Line just down from West Ruislip Stn
and its not a bad walk from West Ruislip Station down the road to Ickenham

 

[super_sprinter]

Thanks, everyone, for the advice. I think the Off-Peak Travelcard will probably suit me best so that I have some flexibility.

I'm attending a private residence close to Ickenham station. I can see that the walk up to West Ruislip isn't too far, so I may do that for the return journey, as I can take Chiltern or the Central line back to Liverpool Street.