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Bicycle provision on trains

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Conveying non-folding bikes (or indeed any other outsize luggage including non-folded push chairs) at peak times probably isn't a good use of carriage space. However outwith peak times, conveying bikes will generate incremental revenue from cyclists who wouldn't have traveled by rail if they couldn't take their bike. On long distance operators where journeys span peak and off peak then requiring reservations for the available bike places seems reasonable, though if there are spaces these should be available until 5 mins before departure.

In terms of bike accommodation; either a space with plenty of hand holds which can be used for standing passengers during peak times, or a space with flip up seats. Also, although 1 bike probably needs the same space as 3 flip up seats, 2-3 bikes can fit into much the same space.
 

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I would put folding seats in the bike places so when people aren't using them other people can sit down.
[444s]. No windows and a brilliant view of the toilet door. 450s have flip down seats, I expect the 444 designers thought they’d never get away with them in that location.
 

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[444s]. No windows and a brilliant view of the toilet door. 450s have flip down seats, I expect the 444 designers thought they’d never get away with them in that location.

To be fair 350s have a facing bay in that same location (opposite the small bog)...

It's a useful place to sit if you've had a pint or two too many and feel you may need, shall we say, quick access to the facilities.
 
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