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It certainly does the job and they’ve invested well in it. Hopefully passenger numbers return to pre pandemic levels

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I have always found Chester's good - clean buses with friendly drivers, indoor seated waiting areas and frequent services, although the current roadworks in the city centre seem to be causing problems with timekeeping.Chester's park and ride seems quite good on the occasions I've used it, although I've only used the Upton Road site to the north of the city. The other two sites are Wrexham Road to the south and Boughton Heath to the east. Operated by Stagecoach with a fleet of 12 dedicated E200MMC's (26050-26061) in a special livery.
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Derby's P&R is terrible.
There are two sites: Meteor Centre and Pride Park. The Meteor Centre is a retail park so there is no dedicated car park and now there is no longer a P&R service to the site (though I don't think anyone used it). Instead trentbarton's H1 stops on the main road every 10 mins
Nottingham used to have a dedicated fleet of electric buses for two park and ride sites, one near Clifton and the other near Colwick. Now they are merely stops on the 49 and 50 services ran by NCT with biogas deckers.
I suppose passengers would rather use the tram park and ride as they are closer to the M1
For Nottingham, Hucknall is the one which really needs more capacity. Pre covid it would often be completely full and overflowing well before 9am. Only problem is there isn’t really any space to any more parking. If only that small retail park with only 3 shops hadn’t been built by the car park entrance.Interesting. Phoenix Park pre pandemic was extremely busy and really needed the extra space, but this probably isn’t going to happen anymore
Oxford's dedicated P&R services are run by Oxford Bus Company, save that from 2/1/22, the Oxford Parkway site is only served by the Stagecoach Woodstock service. For most patrons it is £2 for car parking and £2.80 return fare per person on the bus.There's two types of P&R - the "easy" ones where you have a town/city with insufficient central parking and a sufficient affluent people who'll pay for a good quality service (e.g. driving and parking in central Durham/ York/ Cambridge/ Chester/ Oxford wouldn't be easy or cheap) and the "hard" ones where you have a city centre with lots of multi-story car parks and various unsurfaced car parks on the fringes of the city centre charging just a couple of quid a day to park on a bit of rough ground that'll one day get built on, but in the meantime exists as a bit of a "no questions asked" operation
I've used some great ones and some less so (where we'd have been just as good parking in a random suburban street and boarding the first bus into the town/city centre)
Sheffield has a few (which I've not used) - the worst of which is probably the one near the Nunnery tram depot - it's situated right by the main route into the city - Sheffield Parkway - the A57 - but the road layout means that drivers heading into Sheffield effectively have to drive all the way to the Inner Ring Road/ Park Square to double back and use the P&R since there's no junction from the westbound A57 - and if you're going to drive all the way to the Inner Ring Road/ Park Square then you might as well park in the city centre! The P&Rs (Malin Bridge, Middlewood, Meadowhall/ Nunnery) have an "all day" service since they are located by the tram - so you don't have to worry about getting home. There's not been any dedicated P&R bus services in Sheffield, since the 505 from Millhouses Tesco to the City Centre/ University was replaced by reorganising regular services
Doncaster had the 638 (named because it linked a P&R on the A638 to the town centre and on to a P&R on the other side of town on the A638, with the regular bus services diverting into the P&R at other times, so there was still a reasonable service) - since scrapped - a memory of the days when PTEs had a lot of money for new schemes (and town centres were busy enough to warrant improving traffic levels)
I think the best I've used was in Oxford - very efficient, modern Stagecoach buses, well advertised etc - I think it was the only one where there was a staggered pricing system based on additional car passengers (some places charge "per car" like a car park with the bus ride being essentially free - some charge "per passenger" like a bus service with the car parking being essentially free, but Oxford was the only one I remember where there was a mix of two - not a criticism, just an observation)
There's a definite "sweet spot" for P&Rs - if it's too close to the city centre then people have already had to deal with inner city congestion and won't want to wait around five/ten minutes for a bus that does the last mile, but a P&R too far out and people won't want to sit on a bus for a long journey
I've a memory of using that, with an ancient Notts & Derby double decker eventually turning up - I don't know if it was the regular vehicle or was a cast-off from a school run but generally the Pay & Ride services in other towns/cities are the newest vehicles so it was a surprise to get something so old (but it may have been an emergency allocation!)
Phoenix Park has always worked well for me when heading to Nottingham - just a shame that the tram frequency couldn't keep up with demand at times
Yes, this is a huge site but I don’t think I have seen more than 20 cars in it every time I have passed it by car or on the train above it!There is a large park and ride facility at Hazel Grove for the frequent 192 into Stockport and Manchester but there is little in the way of bus priority and no express buses so the car park is nearly empty.
I think just about anything was put out on the D1. If it was a weekday then the decker could of well done a school run in the morning or afternoon.I've a memory of using that, with an ancient Notts & Derby double decker eventually turning up - I don't know if it was the regular vehicle or was a cast-off from a school run but generally the Pay & Ride services in other towns/cities are the newest vehicles so it was a surprise to get something so old (but it may have been an emergency allocation!)
If you pay only for the bus ride, it is tax free (to be absolutely accurate, zero-rated). if you pay for parking, it incurs VAT. It gets particularly complicated if the charge covers both, which is probably why the Oxford scheme described in Post 38 charges the way it does.I would charge per car rather than the bus ride and there are ways to achieve that with sensible group ticketing
If you pay only for the bus ride, it is tax free (to be absolutely accurate, zero-rated). if you pay for parking, it incurs VAT. It gets particularly complicated if the charge covers both, which is probably why the Oxford scheme described in Post 38 charges the way it does.
Stagecoach run the car park to hospital services. The dedicated vehicles used by COMS are very comfortable although frequencies have been reduced, the 400 is now 4bph rather than 5. In the evenings the airport coaches can be used to Thornhill but this isn't publicised anywhere now (I assume that this hasn't changed since my pre-covid phone enquiry)Oxford's dedicated P&R services are run by Oxford Bus Company, save that from 2/1/22, the Oxford Parkway site is only served by the Stagecoach Woodstock service. For most patrons it is £2 for car parking and £2.80 return fare per person on the bus.
There is a large park and ride facility at Hazel Grove for the frequent 192 into Stockport and Manchester but there is little in the way of bus priority and no express buses so the car park is nearly empty.
Yes, and of course Hazel Grove has another P&R facility at the railway station, where the fares are similar to the bus and the journey takes less than half as long.The 192 does run every 3-5 minutes but takes best part of an hour to get to Manchester!
There are regular 'shorts' to the RCH from Langarth as well as the citybound buses. The newer P&R next to Waitrose on the St Austell road seems to get little usage outside the peak hours, and not much even then ime.I've always found Truro P&R to be very good and is still being well-used despite Covid. Nice quality Citaros as well.
Particularly useful is that the fare (£2 per day) is cheaper than an hour's parking at the Royal Cornwall Hospital where parking is in short supply. The Langarth P&R site is less than 10 min from the hospital along almost continuous bus lanes.
Next stop audio/visual should also be in there. Especially important for infrequent public transport users.Having started this thread, I thought I'd see how it went etc. It was indeed inspired by stumbling over the Harlescott one in Shrewsbury (as mentioned by @Simon75 ) and thinking what a desolate place it was, being tucked away behind a large Tesco and within a larger retail and industrial area. There's a small outbuilding (toilets, storage?) but the waiting facilities are a single bus shelter in a layby.
The best schemes to my mind combine the following:
Best schemes I've experienced have been the York, Bristol and Salisbury ones. Bath is also decent.
- Good location so that car drivers aren't dissuaded from diverting and parking up so easy access from major arterial routes
- Good signage and overall, good marketing on approaches to P&R, at the site, and also in the town/city centre together with well branded vehicles
- Somewhere half-decent to actually wait for the bus - you'd hope there's a bus at the stop waiting but if it isn't, a small dry, warm building with toilets is preferable - good examples are Bristol and Salisbury
- A reasonable headway that covers the core 0700-1900 period at least
- Modern, warm vehicles that are likely to attract car users - preferably with wifi and USBs so people can do things they couldn't/shouldn't do in the car
- Bus priority so that buses can easily exit the site and then into the town/city more easily that the car and remove some of the time advantages of a single mode car journey - this is one of the things that adversely affects the Salisbury ones in that vehicles will exit and, especially on the Petersfinger one, just get stuck in the same traffic
- A simple price proposition that doesn't undermine local bus services unduly; possibly free parking and charging by car for the bus travel?
- It may also be advantageous to have local services also serve the site; if you can also have it near a rail station, so much the better
The worst... there was some sort of affair in Falmouth (with Fal River??) that was a closed contract operation. Just an open yard by the estuary IIRC, and the actual bus operation was done by First Kernow. Being a closed contract, they could use step entry vehicles and it was regularly operated by a former Yorkshire Rider Olympian (very scabby) that was 24 years old!
Still, better than Swindon and Worcester who both had schemes that are now very much in the past (note: I think Swindon still has a semblance of something)
Park and Ride fares
Fares change 3 January 2022
There will be a fares change from the above date - click here for details.
We have two main park and ride sites at Winnersh Triangle and Mereoak. You can find all your fares for these buses below.
For timetable and location information on the park and rides themselves, click here.
car parking charges
At each site, there is a nominal parking charge. This is included in the price of some product and tickets. If your ticket does not include parking, you must buy a parking ticket from the bus driver. These are:
- Winnersh Triangle - £1
- Mereoak - £1
Concessionary pass holders
If you have a concessionary 'free' bus pass, you can use the buses for free (according to the terms of the local authority that you are travelling in), but you must buy a parking ticket from the driver at the price stated above.
Winnersh Triangle park&ride
parking
Parking is included in most bus tickets, but you do need to register your car using the machines by the bus stop (please note, the machines away from the bus stops are for people parking but not using the bus). Pay on the bus - see below for your fares. If your bus ticket does not include your fare, you will need to pay for this on the bus.
The car park at Winnersh Triangle is owned and managed by Wokingham Borough Council, so if you have any questions or issues with the car park, please call their customer care team on 0118 974 6000.
Missed the last bus? Winnersh Triangle tickets and passes are valid on the lion 4/X4 which runs near the park and ride until after 11pm at night.
peak time fares - Monday to Friday before 9.30am
single day return adult £3.70 £4.70 Boost (18 & under) £1.00 £2.00 off-peak fares - Monday to Fridays after 9.30am and all day Saturdays
single day return adult £3.00 £4.00 Boost (18 & under) £1.00 £1.60 Off peak group return - after 9.30am
Up to five people (maximum of three adults) can travel on one ticket, including parking for one car, for just £7.
2 together p&r - before 9.30am
Two people travel together and includes parking for one car for just £7.
parksaver multi-trip smartcards - buy online in advance and save
The parksaver tickets include parking. Parksaver tickets can only be used on park & ride buses - but can be used at both sites.
parksaver 10 10 single trips £22.00 buy now parksaver 20 20 single trips £42.00 buy now parksaver 40 40 single trips £82.00 buy now Bus fares from town to Winnersh Triangle
If you are coming from Reading to Winnersh Triangle to work or for a meeting, then you will not need to pay for parking.
peak time fares - before 9.30am Monday to Friday
single day return adult £2.70 £3.70 Boost (18 & under) £1.00 £2.00 off peak fares - after 9.30am Monday to Friday and all day Saturday
single day return adult £2.00 £3.00 Boost (18 & under) £1.00 £1.60 Mereoak park and ride fares
buy from the driver
single day return all day adult £2.50* £4.50 £5 Boost (18 & under) £1.50* £2.20* £2.70* *does not include parking
special offers - include parking
2 together
Buy before 9.30am Monday to Friday only. Valid for two people with one car for only £7.
family 5
Buy after 9.30am Monday to Friday and all day Saturday and Sunday just £7. Valid for up to 5 people maximum 3 adults.
buy online in advance and save
The parksaver tickets include parking - when you scan your smartcard on the bus, the ticket machine will print you a ticket with your QR code on that allows you to exit the site. Parksaver tickets can only be used on park & ride buses - but can be used at both sites.
No - that's still in use - Summer Sundays only.There was another site just north of the town centre by the coast road, at the Fairway, which seems to have been out of use for quite a few years.... here it is on Google maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.6611696,-2.9974867,331m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en-GB
Where To Go
Esplanade Park & Ride Car Park, Southport, PR8 1RR
Fairways Park & Ride Car Park, Southport, PR9 0LA
The Esplanade Park and Ride/Car Park is open all year round with a capacity of 1000+ vehicles and operates as follows:
Mon - Sat (7.30am and 7.00pm) £2 all day
Sundays & Bank Holidays (Car Park Only) £5 all day
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The Fairways Park & Ride has a capacity of 400 vehicles and operates as follows:
Sundays and Bank Holidays (9.45am and 7.00pm) £2 all day.
Please note that there are no toilet facilities on this car park.

That hasn't been the case for quite some time - parking is now free again and the machines were switched off in 2019 or thereabouts. The complexity of the machines among some elderly drivers (who also couldn't remember their registration number) certainly did a good job of putting people off using the service, alongside the extra £1 parking fee!Cambridge has the same ANPR system and the same (Metric) ergonometrically-challenged ticket machines, albeit with the added feature of a video screen. You tap in your registration and then it brings up a video image of your car for you to confirm .... in theory. In practice, it sometimes doesn't.