Berlin Wall

[Mojo]

Well it was 20 years ago since people started crossing, and the BBC are doing a number of things to commemorate, including a special on the excellent Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 (on now).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8349742.stm

 

[SouthEastern-465]

I seem to remeber theres a piece of it at duxford plane museum?

 

[37401]

and isnt some woman married to a piece of the wall?
but she had an affair with a fence

if you think im having a laugh im not, its true

 

[Daniel]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...oman-married-to-Berlin-Wall-for-29-years.html

Eija-Riitta Berliner-Mauer, 54, whose surname means Berlin Wall in German, wed the concrete structure in 1979 after being diagnosed with a condition called Objectum-Sexuality.
Mrs Berliner-Mauer, whose fetish is said to have its roots in childhood, claimed she fell in love with the structure when she first saw it on television when she was seven.
She began collecting "his" pictures and saving up for visits. On her sixth trip in 1979 they tied the knot before a handful of guests.

 

[Mojo]

This is her personal website: http://www.berlinermauer.se/

I have to say it is quite an interesting and sad story.

 

[Aussie_Rail]

There wasn't much of a coverage on local TV out here on the Berlin Wall thing. I remember something on TV about her, although they made her out to be a bit of a ding bat, but she isn't alone, there are people out there married to all kinds of weird things.

 

[wensley]

A really special occasion. I am too young to remember the wall coming down but I am flying to Berlin on Saturday and will be going to see what is left of the wall as well as 'Checkpoint Charlie'

 

[gordonthemoron]

wensley, the Berlin Wall memorial is at Bernauerstrasse, S-bahn station Nordbahnhof. Went there last saturday. Also there is the East Side galery opposite Ostbahnhof

 

[Mojo]

I went to Berlin in Aug 2007 and had a really good time. It was so cheap but there was so much culture and things to see, although there was a lot of graffiti and a lot of beggers. I walked along the East Side gallery, and there is also a "mini museum" in the foundations underneath the wall next to Checkpoint Charlie about the Nazis pre-war.

Better than that hell-hole that is Paris.

 

[gordonthemoron]

berliner unterwelten do intersting tours of Bunkers (WWII & Cold War) and the Wall.

Story of Berlin has an original Nuclear Bunker which you can visit.

U-bahn stations Pankstrasse & Siemensdamm were built as dual use nuclear bunkers during the 1970s, although it is not obvious unless you know what to look for.

 

[43021HST]

Well it was 20 years ago since people started crossing, and the BBC are doing a number of things to commemorate, including a special on the excellent Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 (on now).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8349742.stm

Yet no one remembers the miners strike but if its a capitalist acheivement we all go nuts

 

[37401]

Speaking of Germany a good place is "Bad Salzig" by the Rhine, went there in year 7 with my school, loved it and im thinking of going again to get some shots of the trains along the river, the tunnels are made to look like Castles so they didnt get bombed during the war (how on earth can I remember this )

Nice place to go to, cant remember the exact town name but if someone spouts someout I bet ill remember it

 

[Oswyntail]

Yet no one remembers the miners strike but if its a capitalist acheivement we all go nuts

I think you will find a lot of people do remember the miners' strike, and its various anniversaries have been documented on television. As the last dying throes of the idea that jobs could and should be kept going in exactly the same way with no change or technological improvement it was a tragedy of the first order. Nothing at all to do with Socialism, more the petty attempt at maintaining an empire by a little man who did not realise that his stance and rhetoric did more damage to the industry than anything the "bosses" did. I suspect you will find more people in mining areas today who spit at Scargill's name than venerate it.
There again, the Berlin Wall was another triumph of imperialism masquerading as Socialism. And, if you actually look at the events surrounding its removal, it was not Capitalism that did very much, but rather the ideal of humanity and brotherhood as Socialist feeling spread from the West to the East.
But why drop a good myth in the face of truth?

 

[37401]

Yet no one remembers the miners strike

like yourself? if you remember the miners strike you have a special abillity

 

[43021HST]

like yourself? if you remember the miners strike you have a special abillity

I try to learn recent history

 

[Menace Dennis]

I visited Berlin and Checkpoint Charlie in September 1982. Fabulous tour followed and now I have small piece of the famous wall.

 

[wensley]

Hi All,

Have now left Berlin and have arrived in Krakow. The tour was really good around Berlin and we learned a lot. Checkpoint Charlie and the remaining stretch of wall weren't how I expected them to be but they were good all the same. The 'Topographie of Terrors' - SS history was also really interesting.

 

[theblackwatch]

I went to Berlin in 1994 or 95, only a few years after the wall had come down, and it was amazing how little of it still existed, efforts had ertainly been made to remove trace of it. One thing I did notice back then was East Germany was absolutlely full of Trabants - most car owners have upgraded now though!

 

[43034 The Black Horse]

One thing I did notice back then was East Germany was absolutlely full of Trabants - most car owners have upgraded now though!

Hoping to be my first car, if I can find one!