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BBC's use of "God Only Knows" music

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What sacrilege the BBC has committed in allowing the most wonderful pop song/production of all time to be bowdlerised like this. Brian Wilson's own participation only highlights the collective deficencies of the others. If your surname's not Wilson, Love, Jardine or, at a pinch, Johnston, then keep off the grass! Carl Wilson's demise means that perfection could never be recreated anyway. The only saving grace would be for people to discover 'Pet Sounds' for themselves, the only record I ever wore out, and I had thousands.
 
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I have no idea what the BBC are using this piece of music for, but I would have to say that if your name was Wilson, Love, Jardine or Johnston and you still owned the rights to the music, then you'd be in full agreement with whatever the BBC has done because you'd have given them the nod and agreed financial recompense

Sadly the modern world of entertainment has, in general, run out of ideas and seems to have decided to constantly 'cover' anything and everything, you most certainly aren't the first and won't be the last to have your memories plagiarised
 

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I have no idea what the BBC are using this piece of music for, but I would have to say that if your name was Wilson, Love, Jardine or Johnston and you still owned the rights to the music, then you'd be in full agreement with whatever the BBC has done because you'd have given them the nod and agreed financial recompense

Do we know whether the said financial recompense has been paid, and as a licence payer, I would like to know exactly how much money was paid.
 

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I'm sure i read somewhere that it's the official Children In Need single this year - much the same way as a cover of the Lou Reed classic Perfect Day was a number of years ago.
 

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What sacrilege the BBC has committed in allowing the most wonderful pop song/production of all time to be bowdlerised like this.

You should give more details as I have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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Me Neither?

Also I'm not keen on the original. It's not their best ;)

Ah Google shows it's a 2010's version of the Perfect Day song.
 
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Do we know whether the said financial recompense has been paid, and as a licence payer, I would like to know exactly how much money was paid.

At worst it'll be Standard PPL/PRS rates per play I suspect. Same as any other piece of Licensed Music used in a programme. Typically the BBC pays a larger lump fee and gets unlimited use of the piece in the Programme/Trailer with no further royalties.

Covers typically don't need permission as long as the standard rates are paid to the PRS
 

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I presume it's this. Though I confess it took some time to work it out, what with the only clue, for a young pup like me, being three little words.....

I hope the BBC got all those artists for nothing because if they paid them I would think that will be one of the most expensive and pointless adverts ever.
 

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What sacrilege the BBC has committed in allowing the most wonderful pop song/production of all time to be bowdlerised like this. Brian Wilson's own participation only highlights the collective deficencies of the others. If your surname's not Wilson, Love, Jardine or, at a pinch, Johnston, then keep off the grass! Carl Wilson's demise means that perfection could never be recreated anyway. The only saving grace would be for people to discover 'Pet Sounds' for themselves, the only record I ever wore out, and I had thousands.

Irk the purists ... ;)

it's a well known song, I'd rather they have a crack at butchering this than something I'd hear and think "wow, they did that?"
 

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It's all a matter of opinion. In my time, which probably ended about 1979, the pop geniuses were Brian Wilson, John Lennon, Phil Spector and Jim Morrison. Possibly Hendrix too and Bowie definitely had (has?) something. Will something new now be used to advertise a show in 47 years time? Great music passes the test of time. I personally wouldn't go and see the Rolling Stones unless they played in the local hall and admission was under a tenner, because that's all they mean to me, but tens of thousands of under 30s pay fortunes to see them in mega stadia.
 

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At first I thought it was simply because I was hung over but nope, I still have no idea what this thread is about.
 

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Admittedly, this is mainly because I think the Beach Boys were dreadful. Beatles >>>>>>>>Beach Boys, for life. :D:p:lol:

I've been on here four and a half years and never in that time have I seen something written as abhorrent as this. Even Led bloody Zeppelin were better than that lot from Merseyside. ;)
 

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At first I thought it was simply because I was hung over but nope, I still have no idea what this thread is about.

Same here (minus the hangover). I've come to the conclusion that if I don't know about something in popular music there's a 99% chance I'm better off not knowing :P
 

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A few weeks ago, the BBC made a big noise about something special happening at 8PM that night. Watched it, and they had loads of singers/artists (I think they were all British) and the BBC Orchestra, perform the song "God Only knows" by the beach boys, and a short video to go with it.

I'm not quite sure why (although I did read somewhere it might be the children in need song).

A quote from the BBC site

BBC Music is delighted to share with you this extraordinary version of the Beach Boys' masterpiece, God Only Knows, to celebrate our love of music.

With the 80-piece BBC Concert Orchestra at its heart and 27 ridiculously talented musicians from a wide range of genres, this "impossible orchestra" represents the talent, diversity and musical passion found every single day throughout the BBC.

The charity single
This single is also in aid of this year's BBC Children in Need campaign. Find out how you can buy a copy here.
The charity single

And a link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2R3PxWX7hzMb8lNZs3Ngz5L/god-only-knows


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What sacrilege the BBC has committed in allowing the most wonderful pop song/production of all time to be bowdlerised like this.

Surely it is your sainted Brian Wilson who has allowed one of the average songs on 'Pet Sounds' to be bowdlerised. He co-wrote it after all. If he didn't want it to be used for charitable purposes (all artists appearing without a fee) then, as a copyright holder, he was free to say no.

That it introduces Beach Boys' music to a new audience, which will make some dosh for Brian Wilson, will be a handy side effect for him in allowing the bowdlerisation. 'Pet Sounds' and the original 'God Only Knows' single have seen a healthy increase in downloads this past week.
 

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Thousands of cover versions of old songs are released every year - I have probably hundreds of cover versions in my own music collection - and few of them compare favourably to the original, but it really doesn't matter: their existence doesn't in any way diminish the power of the original version.
 

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I like it. It must be getting on for a couple of decades since Perfect Day, so it's about time for another one.
 

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I've been on here four and a half years and never in that time have I seen something written as abhorrent as this. Even Led bloody Zeppelin were better than that lot from Merseyside. ;)

Now hang on, I wouldn't go QUITE so far as to say that. Anyway, the Beatles's 'Sgt Pepper' was in response to 'Pet Sounds' as Lennon didn't consider he could ever better it.

Bet if I said that 'Whole Lotta Love', far from containing the best guitar riff ever, was the most turgidly unoriginal thing ever produced, then my post would be understood. So, won't say it.
 

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Do we know whether the said financial recompense has been paid, and as a licence payer, I would like to know exactly how much money was paid.

I hope the BBC got all those artists for nothing because if they paid them I would think that will be one of the most expensive and pointless adverts ever.

I love the way that the media has conditioned so many people to the default position of Must Bash The BBC At Every Possible Opportunity :lol:

Relax - it's a charity single - the artists have donated their time - it'll raise a lot of money for Children In Need (and probably sell more copies to a wider demographic than the usual McFly/ Girls Aloud pap that they tend to release for CiN).

Irk the purists ... ;)

If you’ve never, then you ought

Surely it is your sainted Brian Wilson who has allowed one of the average songs on 'Pet Sounds' to be bowdlerised. He co-wrote it after all. If he didn't want it to be used for charitable purposes (all artists appearing without a fee) then, as a copyright holder, he was free to say no.

That it introduces Beach Boys' music to a new audience, which will make some dosh for Brian Wilson, will be a handy side effect for him in allowing the bowdlerisation. 'Pet Sounds' and the original 'God Only Knows' single have seen a healthy increase in downloads this past week.

True - but some people have to find an angle to complain about the BBC, even though Brian Wilson is letting them use "his" song. As you say, he'll probably see a few more people introduced to his back catalogue as a reasult

Thousands of cover versions of old songs are released every year - I have probably hundreds of cover versions in my own music collection - and few of them compare favourably to the original, but it really doesn't matter: their existence doesn't in any way diminish the power of the original version.

True.

I'm old enough to remember when a cover version was a rarity. Nowadays, with the rise of "covers bands" and "tribute acts", X-Factor getting people to murder some existing song, Radio One Live Lounge, singers wanting to be seen as "artists" capable of tackling different genres and not wanting to be pigeon-holed, since Mad World made Christmas Number One in 2003... almost everyone has released at least one cover...

...some are interesting takes in a different style, some add nothing new, some at least show that the (new) artist has a more interesting background than I maybe gave them credit for - they generally do no harm.

I don't know about the multiple voices of this God Only Knows version, as I always thought that the original was a very personal song (a beautiful one), rather than what feels like a music version of ISIHAC's Cheddar Gorge.
 

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I'm old enough to remember when a cover version was a rarity. Nowadays, with the rise of "covers bands" and "tribute acts", X-Factor getting people to murder some existing song, Radio One Live Lounge, singers wanting to be seen as "artists" capable of tackling different genres and not wanting to be pigeon-holed, since Mad World made Christmas Number One in 2003... almost everyone has released at least one cover...

I don't think that's such a new thing. In the 60's it was common to have several versions of the same song in the charts at the same time !
 

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I love the way that the media has conditioned so many people to the default position of Must Bash The BBC At Every Possible Opportunity

Nobody has conditioned me and I resent your immature accusation.
 

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I don't think that's such a new thing. In the 60's it was common to have several versions of the same song in the charts at the same time !

Off the top of my head:-
Karl Denver- Wimoweh, a cover of the Tokens= The Lion Sleeps Tonight
Danny Williams= Moon River, a cover of the Andy Williams (no relation)
Cilla Black - a deeply inferior cover of the sublime Dionne Warwick's Anyone who had a Heart

Just on occasion the cover could be as good in its own way as the original (Goin' Back by the Byrds/Dusty Springfield) or decidedly better (With a Little Help from my Friends by Joe Cocker/Beatles)

ETC ETC - my brain hurts
 

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or decidedly better (With a Little Help from my Friends by Joe Cocker/Beatles)

ETC ETC - my brain hurts

Ah, now a lot of people say that, but I've always preferred Ringo's version. I enjoy the playful sense of humour of the Beatles version rather than it played "straight".

One that is as good as the original is Nilsson's version of Without You. Infact, I shall cue that up for the next ad break in Downton.
 
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