To be fair, its first hand from a driver, not some regurgitated story doing the rounds.
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To be fair, its first hand from a driver, not some regurgitated story doing the rounds.
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scott118
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i'd take the report from facemuck any day over a tabloid..i'm not a fan of it, however the world can't seem to exist without it..
Just read through the FB post, it's err, 'what I read in the local paper'. The author isn't a VT Driver....
How can we stop creeping Americanisms? It's not the Daily Mirror's take on it. It's the Daily Mirror's versión of the story.
Minilad
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How can we stop crusty pedants from failing to understand that language evolves and as long as what is being said is understood then there really isn't a problem.
Tolerance and patience and then we can get her done.
ScouserGirl
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I was going to say they need to do this as it's almost impossibly to get into the cab as you have to walk through the kitchen etc to get to the cab!
L&Y Robert
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I understood that the expression "- a take -" on something was derived from television, borrowed probably from earlier sound recording studios. "Quiet studio, Creeping Americanisms take one, and - - Action" - sort of thing.
"I take it you mean....."
"I take it from that...."
Are these also creeping Americanisms?
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If the unit was running in its normal formation, then Standard would have been at the back, which I think is just a bike storage area.
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But still that door should have been locked so no one could get in! But what an odd ball just to hijack it to press the horn...
L&Y Robert
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And "Coming up" is another one, meaning "Happening soon". That one refers to items rising up the autocue screen.
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Assuming you mean the door from coach A into the bike storage area, then isnt it just a push button like the carriage intersection doors?ScouserGirl:2415554 said:
DarloRich
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while the standard of reporting is comically poor i am sure we can all think of individuals who might consider this kind of behaviour to be acceptable.
Anyway - how hard can it be. Those drivers only sit there pushing buttons and pulling levers. You could get a semi trained monkey to do that!
Anyway - how hard can it be. Those drivers only sit there pushing buttons and pulling levers. You could get a semi trained monkey to do that!
Can you provide some evidence for that view? And what is a "wasisit"?
HMS Ark Royal
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It works on more or less the same method as a Thingiemabob used to manually open the Doodah
while the standard of reporting is comically poor i am sure we can all think of individuals who might consider this kind of behaviour to be acceptable.
Can we account for backontrack's location that day?
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Of course he can't. Like I have a prejudice against the Daily Mail and the Daily Express, he has one against the Guardian. The difference is I admit to it.
while the standard of reporting is comically poor i am sure we can all think of individuals who might consider this kind of behaviour to be acceptable.
Anyway - how hard can it be. Those drivers only sit there pushing buttons and pulling levers. You could get a semi trained monkey to do that!
Monkeys are expensive to obtain and there are many legal restrictions on the capture of wild primates.
A well trained Alsatian dog would seem a more realistic option ! IIRC, a press report stated the London Underground were to start using HIGHLY TRAINED Alsatians as train operators on the Victoria line.
With the line being largely automatic, it was stated that a well trained dog could replace a human at a considerable financial saving.
Possibly only viable for a metro type operation though, and not applicable to the main line.
I seem to recall that testing was due to start in early April, some years ago.
Here is a sort of story about bashing and being in the cab, it is a good story and very true believe me.
My mate and I were on a 7 day East Midlands Ranger/ ticket in July 1979, when the Deltics were gradually being replaced by HSTs.
We caught the 1005 ex Kings Cross from Doncaster to York (55021)without a valid ticket from Doncaster and the train terminated in a bay at York. We went up to the loco and the driver invited us into the cab of 55021, he then said that the shunting engine was going to take the empty coaches off our train , then we would pull clear, the coaches shunted back where 55021 would go on the front of the train ready to work it back to Kings Cross.
He remained in the northbound end cab of the move and told us we could stay on the Deltic for this shunt.
After we had pulled clear and were waiting at the shunting signal to go back on to the coaches another Deltic (55007) appeared and went onto our coaches.
The driver said he didn't know what was happening and went onto the phone, he said we had to move southwards towards Holgate Bridge, I was to drive !!!!! and he would look out for the signals, don't forget we were still in the north end cab.
So I got to Drive a Delly and I never even had a ticket.
When we came to a halt the driver took control and we pulled into the station area and parked up on a through line. There were some permanent way guys working nearby and when they saw us alight they noticed we didn't have any uniform, one said, "Look at them, not wearing any uniform" Number 2 replied, "Yes, they must be Cockneys, they do want they want"
Part 2 to follow
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Part 2
The driver earlier had told us he would be working the 1811 York-KGX and we could have a cab ride back to Doncaster with him.
We then went across to the 1411 York-KGX (55007) where we went to Selby, then 55009 on the 1220 KGX-York back from Selby to York then a HST from York to Doncaster, all this without a valid ticket.
At Doncaster we were due to head north but spotted a Travelling Ticket Inspector board our train, so it was Plan B and we caught the 1722 DMU to Selby.
55011 was hauling the 1811 hours York-KGX and we duly had our Deltic cab ride back to Doncaster, if Carlsberg did bashing days.........
I am sorry if this post has offended anybody but that's just how it was in the 70s/early 80s, the good old days.
My mate and I were on a 7 day East Midlands Ranger/ ticket in July 1979, when the Deltics were gradually being replaced by HSTs.
We caught the 1005 ex Kings Cross from Doncaster to York (55021)without a valid ticket from Doncaster and the train terminated in a bay at York. We went up to the loco and the driver invited us into the cab of 55021, he then said that the shunting engine was going to take the empty coaches off our train , then we would pull clear, the coaches shunted back where 55021 would go on the front of the train ready to work it back to Kings Cross.
He remained in the northbound end cab of the move and told us we could stay on the Deltic for this shunt.
After we had pulled clear and were waiting at the shunting signal to go back on to the coaches another Deltic (55007) appeared and went onto our coaches.
The driver said he didn't know what was happening and went onto the phone, he said we had to move southwards towards Holgate Bridge, I was to drive !!!!! and he would look out for the signals, don't forget we were still in the north end cab.
So I got to Drive a Delly and I never even had a ticket.
When we came to a halt the driver took control and we pulled into the station area and parked up on a through line. There were some permanent way guys working nearby and when they saw us alight they noticed we didn't have any uniform, one said, "Look at them, not wearing any uniform" Number 2 replied, "Yes, they must be Cockneys, they do want they want"
Part 2 to follow
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Part 2
The driver earlier had told us he would be working the 1811 York-KGX and we could have a cab ride back to Doncaster with him.
We then went across to the 1411 York-KGX (55007) where we went to Selby, then 55009 on the 1220 KGX-York back from Selby to York then a HST from York to Doncaster, all this without a valid ticket.
At Doncaster we were due to head north but spotted a Travelling Ticket Inspector board our train, so it was Plan B and we caught the 1722 DMU to Selby.
55011 was hauling the 1811 hours York-KGX and we duly had our Deltic cab ride back to Doncaster, if Carlsberg did bashing days.........
I am sorry if this post has offended anybody but that's just how it was in the 70s/early 80s, the good old days.
HMS Ark Royal
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Here is a sort of story about bashing and being in the cab, it is a good story and very true believe me.
My mate and I were on a 7 day East Midlands Ranger/ ticket in July 1979, when the Deltics were gradually being replaced by HSTs.
We caught the 1005 ex Kings Cross from Doncaster to York (55021)without a valid ticket from Doncaster and the train terminated in a bay at York. We went up to the loco and the driver invited us into the cab of 55021, he then said that the shunting engine was going to take the empty coaches off our train , then we would pull clear, the coaches shunted back where 55021 would go on the front of the train ready to work it back to Kings Cross.
He remained in the northbound end cab of the move and told us we could stay on the Deltic for this shunt.
After we had pulled clear and were waiting at the shunting signal to go back on to the coaches another Deltic (55007) appeared and went onto our coaches.
The driver said he didn't know what was happening and went onto the phone, he said we had to move southwards towards Holgate Bridge, I was to drive !!!!! and he would look out for the signals, don't forget we were still in the north end cab.
So I got to Drive a Delly and I never even had a ticket.
When we came to a halt the driver took control and we pulled into the station area and parked up on a through line. There were some permanent way guys working nearby and when they saw us alight they noticed we didn't have any uniform, one said, "Look at them, not wearing any uniform" Number 2 replied, "Yes, they must be Cockneys, they do want they want"
Part 2 to follow
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Part 2
The driver earlier had told us he would be working the 1811 York-KGX and we could have a cab ride back to Doncaster with him.
We then went across to the 1411 York-KGX (55007) where we went to Selby, then 55009 on the 1220 KGX-York back from Selby to York then a HST from York to Doncaster, all this without a valid ticket.
At Doncaster we were due to head north but spotted a Travelling Ticket Inspector board our train, so it was Plan B and we caught the 1722 DMU to Selby.
55011 was hauling the 1811 hours York-KGX and we duly had our Deltic cab ride back to Doncaster, if Carlsberg did bashing days.........
I am sorry if this post has offended anybody but that's just how it was in the 70s/early 80s, the good old days.
Great story!
The bit about driving the Deltic is rather like my great tale of me, when I was 6/7, driving a pacer into hull station because the driver was packing his bag up
Cheers guys, maybe in a month or so when I come back off my hols I will tell some tales about my happenings on the Railways in the early 70s. Again very true, I wrote a letter to the Area Managers Office asking for a High Vis Vest as on one job I had to cross the main lines to signal our train back along the siding, request refused!!
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Oh I can, its the lefty way of screaming racist as everything that the lefties don't like so they call it racist just to make them feel good.
Polarbear
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Many years ago, a Chester based driver (sadly no longer with us) was a regular at the pub I worked at & invited me to take a cab ride up to Holyhead & back.
On the day, I met him just after he signed on & was about to clamber aboard the 47 when the bloke realised a footplate inspector was getting on; so I was quickly ushered into the rear cab!
Upto Holyhead, with the back end of a Mk 2 to look at for 85 miles! Upon arrival at Holyhead, the 47 was diagrammed on a Freightliner & as the inspector had gone elsewhere so back into the front can for the return leg.
And no, it wouldn't happen today....
On the day, I met him just after he signed on & was about to clamber aboard the 47 when the bloke realised a footplate inspector was getting on; so I was quickly ushered into the rear cab!
Upto Holyhead, with the back end of a Mk 2 to look at for 85 miles! Upon arrival at Holyhead, the 47 was diagrammed on a Freightliner & as the inspector had gone elsewhere so back into the front can for the return leg.
And no, it wouldn't happen today....
HMS Ark Royal
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Many years ago, a Chester based driver (sadly no longer with us) was a regular at the pub I worked at & invited me to take a cab ride up to Holyhead & back.
On the day, I met him just after he signed on & was about to clamber aboard the 47 when the bloke realised a footplate inspector was getting on; so I was quickly ushered into the rear cab!
Upto Holyhead, with the back end of a Mk 2 to look at for 85 miles! Upon arrival at Holyhead, the 47 was diagrammed on a Freightliner & as the inspector had gone elsewhere so back into the front can for the return leg.
And no, it wouldn't happen today....
*coughs*
Oh yes, it does...
Having occasionally read the Daily Mail I can understand that.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Let us all make allowances for the Daily Mirror, as the word Crewe has as many as FIVE letters in it, which is a long word for the journalists on the Daily Mirror and sub-editors to come to terms with.
Does the Daily Mirror still have the regular remarkable column of journalism headed "Live Letters conducted by the Old Codgers" to whom one of our more eloquently versed literary forum members could write to on the matter?
krus_aragon
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Indeed, one wonders how they cope with the six letters of Mirror on a regular basis...
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