Bags on seat riddle

[Deerfold]

Well, that's a bit shellfish...

I'll get me coat...

Interestingly I've always wondered if those who sit at a table with a big box of smelly sushi in front of them on the evening peak trains out of Kings X are trying to dissuade others from joining them.

 

[island]

What's a droplight?

The window in the door on a HST

 

[Hellfire]

I don't think this can be true. easyJet has had fully assigned seating for the last several months.

In fact since November 2012.

 

[DiscoStu]

In fact since November 2012.

Busted lol

 

[Katada]

In fact since November 2012.

It depends, he used the term "recently", 3 years could fall into the bracket of recent easily in my opinion.

 

[Crossover]

I'll often have a bag (rucksack) on the seat next to me, especially if I am trying to get things out of said bag and the seat is free and not needed (especially so on longer distance trains once all are on board and seated and there is a long gap until the next station call)

If it is busy or I specifically don't need it for anything, it will usually go in the racks.

Don't get me started with feet on seats............

Having travelled on Merseyrail, I have started to notice this moreso lately - amazing how many people do it!

What a storm in a teacup.

Agreed!

Or people with proper manners perhaps. It is quite straight forward. Put your bag in the rack regardless of the number of people on the train.

What about when a rack doesn't exist? I was under the panto well of a 323 yesterday - went to put my bag and coat out of the way to find I couldn't, so I had to put them both on the seat next to me (luckily it was a quiet service that got quieter as the journey continued)

There was really no need for that patronising post... :roll:

In fairness, punctuation and grammar are mentioned in the forum rules, and such lack of it does make reading posts hard work, so there is definitely a point to be made there

All contributions should be readable and understandable. You should make reasonable efforts to use legible fonts and correct spelling, punctuation and grammar in all your contributions.

 

[RichmondCommu]

Its mostly females who are the 'bag on seat' culprits, saying that though one lass did move her stuff what with the train we we on was full and I couldn't find a seat elsewhere. Maybe the smell of ice musk and Lynx did the trick.

Please tell me that you're being ironic!
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To present an opposite picture, going back a few years I know there was a chap travelling in first class on a HST. A member of the crew asked him to remove his briefcase from the seat as it was busy and he declined. Said member of staff then grabbed it and chucked it out of a droplight at 100+ mph and advised the bloke it had left the train. This was a while back and he still works on the railway. He had several similar (but in one case much more outrageous) incidents that I won't recount here!

How on earth is this man still in employment (assuming he still works for the same TOC).

 

[34D]

Ive been on trains where I have had a table of 4 to myself. Was able to spread out and no one complained.

Hmmm. Surely it is anti-social for a single traveller to occupy a table or four?

(yesterday I was a party of three, who got on a train at its starting point to observe single travellers to sit on the aisle seat at two tables)

 

[TUC]

If a train is getting full I will remove my bag from a seat when it pulls into a station and then replace it on departure if the seat hasn't been taken. That seems much politer than leaving it to someone to have to ask if the seat is free..

 

[stut]

Hmmm. Surely it is anti-social for a single traveller to occupy a table or four?

(yesterday I was a party of three, who got on a train at its starting point to observe single travellers to sit on the aisle seat at two tables)

Being well over 6', there are plenty trains where table seats are the only ones I can physically fit into! The aisle seats means that if anyone sits opposite, at least they have some legroom.

Similarly, the trains that do have slightly more legroom often don't have room to open a laptop in the 'airline' seats, so if I need to get on with some work... A table seat it is.

So, if I'm playing devil's advocate... Surely it's antisocial for a group to expect another passenger to travel in significantly less comfort, just so they can all sit together?

 

[aleph_0]

Hmmm. Surely it is anti-social for a single traveller to occupy a table or four?

(yesterday I was a party of three, who got on a train at its starting point to observe single travellers to sit on the aisle seat at two tables)

Golly, there is an awful lot of judgement in this thread.

For a variety of very sensible and reasonable reasons, a passenger might prefer to sit at a table. This might include, for example, the passenger preferring to sit at a table, even if the other seats are occupied by a group of 3.

In your scenario, your party could have occupied the other 3 seats. If the individual was still happy to remain in his seat, all is good. If not, he has to move, and everything is still good.

 

[LowLevel]

Please tell me that you're being ironic!
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How on earth is this man still in employment (assuming he still works for the same TOC).

Different times. Don't forget on BR if you had a fare evader who wouldn't leave the toilet on occasion the ticket inspector was known just to break the door down and drag said individual out. Not to mention the old practice among station staff of dousing 'difficult' vagrants with cold water out of a mop bucket and throwing them in the skip. The other stories would probably make you gasp

We are going back a few years now of course though, although I don't think it was *that* long ago in the scheme of things. Within the last 20-30 years say. I myself have never obviously indulged in such bizarre behaviour as I rather enjoy having a job!

 

[KA4C]

Hmmm. Surely it is anti-social for a single traveller to occupy a table or four?

(yesterday I was a party of three, who got on a train at its starting point to observe single travellers to sit on the aisle seat at two tables)

and your point is?

 

[Squaddie]

Hmmm. Surely it is anti-social for a single traveller to occupy a table or four?

Not at all. A person travelling alone has just as much right to a table seat (if they want one) as a group of three or four.

If you're unable to find four free seats around a table then blame the train operators for cramming in more and more seats at the expense of passenger comfort. Or reserve the seats you want.

 

[Muzer]

I tend to grab table seats nowadays only when on 444s. Even then I make sure only to grab one in the coach the opposite end as First Class. These are the only standard class seats with power sockets

 

[Craglad1975]

People moaning about bags on seats , my god if some of you lot got on the cross country trains that I travel on with my baby daughter you would be having a right go at me because 1) I leave the pushchair unfolded in the disabled parking space and some times I put my daughters changing bag on a spare seat either at the side of me or in front of me 2) that's in first class which has very little space for folded up pushchairs specially on the class 220/221 but if a wheelchair needs to be parked in the disabled bay I will happily fold the pushchair up but then you get the problem of where to keep the pushchair when folded up as cross country told me in a reply to an email I sent them about the problem there is more space further down the train . And I'm not going to walk up and down the train with my daughter in my arms and her changing bag and my bag so we can get back to her wheels

 

[Tetchytyke]

Hmmm. Surely it is anti-social for a single traveller to occupy a table or four?

(yesterday I was a party of three, who got on a train at its starting point to observe single travellers to sit on the aisle seat at two tables)

There are three seats remaining, so what's your point?

I generally prefer sitting in airline seats because the legroom is better, but if I have to work then I take a table seat. Why? Because East Coast have cleverly designed it so that there isn't enough room to open my laptop in an airline seat.

 

[stut]

In general, I have to say that I'm spectacularly unfussed by people putting bags on seats. The main thing is that they move them with good grace when asked (actually, it's quite fun to mock them when they don't, but you pick these things carefully...) Why are people so afraid to ask someone to do this, or to let them into a window seat?

What I find far more annoying is people putting bags in the aisle, and in other people's foot/leg space. The commuter trains I go on are terrible for this. The weekend is worse, with suitcases occupying entire bays of 4 (and the GN 365s do actually have quite decent luggage space...)

 

[PHILIPE]

Not bags this time but often I have seen a person sitting at table (4 seats) using their laptop and papers and books spread out all over the table.
Going off trains, I was travelling on a bus in Glasgow area last Summer and a chap probably in his 30s was sitting on a seat with his coat and bags spread out over the adjacent. Despite the bus rapidly filling up, he made no attampto to move anything. The best part of the story now. He was sitting at the front in an area clearly marked "Priority seats for disabled and elderly passengers!>

 

[GodAtum]

Slightly off topic but I would never get a laptop or iPad out on the train. Too risky and easy for people to snatch it.

 

[trainophile]

Slightly off topic but I would never get a laptop or iPad out on the train. Too risky and easy for people to snatch it.

You've made me nervous sat here on Merseyrail with my iPhone now! Think I'll chance it, as travelling was the main reason I got a smartphone!

 

[Deerfold]

Slightly off topic but I would never get a laptop or iPad out on the train. Too risky and easy for people to snatch it.

I suppose it depends where and when you're travelling. On a service that doesn't stop between Wakefield and London I'll fairly confident that no-one's about to grab and do a runner.

On a frequent stopping service at 2300 I may be more cautious.