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Woodhead closed in 1984 and there are engineering works through Huddersfield today, so not many routes available.

Unfortunately a freight train has broken down at Grindleford now !

The diverted TPE's at Leeds are going to be busy !
 
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Always regret I lived at the wrong end of the UK in the 1970s. The last train operated on 18 July 1981 and then the line was mothballed, until its track lifted 1984-ish.

Yes, I was down South at the time (and would have been a small child in 1981) so would have missed out anyway (sadly).

We could certainly do with it nowadays !
 

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The last train operated on 18 July 1981 and then the line was mothballed, until its track lifted 1984-ish.
Believe track lifting on the Woodhead was still taking place in May 1986, some five years after closure.
 

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Woodhead closed in 1984 and there are engineering works through Huddersfield today, so not many routes available.

Unfortunately a freight train has broken down at Grindleford now !

The diverted TPE's at Leeds are going to be busy !
The failed freight train is westbound, so why is this affecting eastbound trains as well (2S76 has arrived at Grindleford 20 minutes ago and is still there)?

Edit: 2S76 is being turned at Grindleford to form 2S79 (1114 SHF-MAN). There also appears to be a 1Z99 on the way, which is presumably a rescue loco, but that's stuck behind 2S76 and 1B72 (Liverpool-Cleethorpes), so I presume they're also going to turn 1B72 at Grindleford, and then the rescue loco can access the westbound line. It's going to be a little while...
 

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The failed freight train is westbound, so why is this affecting eastbound trains as well (2S76 has arrived at Grindleford 20 minutes ago and is still there)?

Edit: 2S76 is being turned at Grindleford to form 2S79 (1114 SHF-MAN). There also appears to be a 1Z99 on the way, which is presumably a rescue loco, but that's stuck behind 2S76 and 1B72 (Liverpool-Cleethorpes), so I presume they're also going to turn 1B72 at Grindleford, and then the rescue loco can access the westbound line. It's going to be a little while...

Sounds like someone's got a job on their hands sorting it all out !

Fortunately the express to Leeds is a 3 carriage 158 with proper seating, so some consolation there !
 

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Actually, thinking about it, they won't turn 1B72, it'll probably just pick up 2S76's passengers and carry on to Sheffield.

Edit: Yep, and they ran 2S79 to Hathersage to start there so as to achieve this more quickly.
 
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Unfortunately TPE aren't diverting Leeds - Manc, so the Northerns are very busy.

Passengers at Bradford Exchange are in for a nasty surprise !
 

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I'm not sure what's happening now, but 6E09 (Liverpool-Drax biomass) is now blocking the eastbound at Grindleford. 2S78 from Manchester has been at Hathersage for half an hour.
 

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Everything looks to be on the move now.

Should have stayed in Sheffield and gone to the pub for an hour !
 

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Unfortunately TPE aren't diverting Leeds - Manc, so the Northerns are very busy.

Passengers at Bradford Exchange are in for a nasty surprise !
I'm not sure anyone travelling between Sheffield and Manchester is likely to be choosing the diversion via Bradford Interchange rather than the replacement buses? Or simply waiting...
 

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I'm not sure anyone travelling between Sheffield and Manchester is likely to be choosing the diversion via Bradford Interchange rather than the replacement buses? Or simply waiting...

There seemed to be a lot on my train North to Leeds. But yes, probably a bit of a niche move.
 

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Icing on the cake - no trams between Vic and Pic.
The line has indeed been closed since early June between Piccadilly and Piccadilly Gardens.

Metrolink aren't accepting rail tickets from Sheffield anyway.
 

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I'm not sure anyone travelling between Sheffield and Manchester is likely to be choosing the diversion via Bradford Interchange rather than the replacement buses? Or simply waiting...
I would take the longer train journey at every opportunity. RRB usage is the last resort option, as far as I am concerned.
 

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I would take the longer train journey at every opportunity. RRB usage is the last resort option, as far as I am concerned.
It's around 3h 30 - 3h 45 via Bradford using Northern and then taking the tram (and paying for it) to Market Street and walking. So around twice as long as the bus or simply waiting for the problem to clear and catching the next train. Your preferences are of course up to you but at that stage the majority of the public will have either cancelled their tickets and gone home or used the bus.

On the plus side for those who take the hit to the journey time, it's so slow that they should get their full ticket price as compensation for the delay.
 

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Fortunately both incidents weren't at the same time - that would have been a bummer !
 

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When did the failed freight get moved, and where to? And how long had it been blocking the Hope Valley line? Two hours plus?

I was well on my way between Leeds and Manchester before it moved, but other than that, @D1537 may have more insight.

Given the problems encountered in Leeds this afternoon, I'm pleased to report that the trip back to Sheffield was quite blissful.
 

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It took about 2.5 hours to recover it (around 12.30). The line had mostly recovered by mid-afternoon.
 

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Well, as expected, 195 on the last stopper from Sheffield (instead of the usual 158's).

We'll see how the toilet copes.
 
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