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Luxury of seeing a Pendo ;) I saw a couple sprinters when out for a walk along an isolated Bridleway on Sunday.

Yep, things are bad when I'm getting excited at the sight of a plain Pendolino :E

Looks lovely wherever that is mate. Was it a purposeful decision to have a wander alongside a railway line?
 
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Yep, things are bad when I'm getting excited at the sight of a plain Pendolino :E

Looks lovely wherever that is mate. Was it a purposeful decision to have a wander alongside a railway line?

Pretty much, the Bridleway turns into a woodland footpath which runs alongside the railway for 3 miles, runs to the outskirts of another small village so the middle section tends to be very isolated.

I just wanted to see if there was any evidence of the former Bulford camp branch, turns out there was a small bit where you could picture where the track ran for a small section but outside the woods the embankments didn't stand out from the areas I could see.

#AllTheAccessPoints ;)
 

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Yesterday I drove past a very empty and forlorn looking local station and saw a Pendolino.
Today I went out for a walk and saw a XC Voyager departing as I headed over the bridge by the North Junctions.

Have you forgotten that you are supposed to take numbers ? :)
I'm not sure what trains look like these days.

Pretty much, the Bridleway turns into a woodland footpath which runs alongside the railway for 3 miles, runs to the outskirts of another small village so the middle section tends to be very isolated.

I just wanted to see if there was any evidence of the former Bulford camp branch, turns out there was a small bit where you could picture where the track ran for a small section but outside the woods the embankments didn't stand out from the areas I could see.

#AllTheAccessPoints ;)

This is always a fascinating thing to do. About 10 years ago, I was consigned to spend a few Saturday mornings in Galashiels and set about trying to find and photograph the course of the old railway line to pass the time ... who knew ?
 

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Well I haven’t had any recent sightings, but I do still get regular 'soundings' as I can hear the 333s working up and down Airedale when I'm in the garden.

The birds visiting the garden still offer some spotting opportunities!
 

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I can see the West Coast Main Line from my balcony. Literally the 200 metres north of Wigan North Western. However, it's too far to get numbers and mostly through trees so not very exciting. I see what you'd expect... Avanti services, Northern units, freight of various sorts.

My walking and running routes along the Leeds Liverpool Canal pass under the WCML and the routes out of Wallgate to Kirkby, Southport, Manchester so occasionally see a Sprinter or two.
 

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I can see the West Coast Main Line from my balcony. Literally the 200 metres north of Wigan North Western. However, it's too far to get numbers and mostly through trees so not very exciting. I see what you'd expect... Avanti services, Northern units, freight of various sorts.

My walking and running routes along the Leeds Liverpool Canal pass under the WCML and the routes out of Wallgate to Kirkby, Southport, Manchester so occasionally see a Sprinter or two.
Doesn't maintaining 2m separation on a canal towpath involve one person getting rather wet?
 

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Pretty much, the Bridleway turns into a woodland footpath which runs alongside the railway for 3 miles, runs to the outskirts of another small village so the middle section tends to be very isolated.

I just wanted to see if there was any evidence of the former Bulford camp branch, turns out there was a small bit where you could picture where the track ran for a small section but outside the woods the embankments didn't stand out from the areas I could see.

#AllTheAccessPoints ;)

I must admit I love watching videos of people searching out old and abandoned railways so that sort of search would be right up my street. There is a walkway that I could join on my walking/running route which I believe used to be the Stafford-Wellington line (I believe it is the bit that still shows a small piece of track coming off the WCML at the north end of Stafford station on Google Maps although the track is long gone). Always thought I should have a wander along it to see if there are any remnants of the line left.

And #AllTheAccessPoints sounds like the perfect thing for you to do once you've completed everything else :lol:
How are you finding the weekends at the moment as every weekend for you was pretty much about the railways wasn't it?
 

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Have you forgotten that you are supposed to take numbers ? :)
I'm not sure what trains look like these days.

Never even gave it a thought - I will need re-training after all of this :D
Saying that, not sure I would be able to see the number on a Voyager from on top of a bridge - they are hard enough to spot when you are at platform level :lol:
 

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Well I haven’t had any recent sightings, but I do still get regular 'soundings' as I can hear the 333s working up and down Airedale when I'm in the garden.

I definitely get to listen to the trains, in fact a pair of Cats went by not so long ago - it was very soothing to hear such a noise :D
On the other end of the noise scale, I think Network Rail were hard at work on the other side of our fence on Saturday night as I got woken up by, what sounded like, an OTM of some sort and all this week some trains, particularly the 350s, have made a pretty horrendous noise as they arrive into the station :/
 

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I must admit I love watching videos of people searching out old and abandoned railways so that sort of search would be right up my street. There is a walkway that I could join on my walking/running route which I believe used to be the Stafford-Wellington line (I believe it is the bit that still shows a small piece of track coming off the WCML at the north end of Stafford station on Google Maps although the track is long gone). Always thought I should have a wander along it to see if there are any remnants of the line left.

And #AllTheAccessPoints sounds like the perfect thing for you to do once you've completed everything else :lol:
How are you finding the weekends at the moment as every weekend for you was pretty much about the railways wasn't it?

Relaxing mainly, with the spot of gardening and watching telly/DVDs.

Sadly for me the other main disused railway in these parts (Andover to Southampton) is a bit too far to walk to
 

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I can see the West Coast Main Line from my balcony. Literally the 200 metres north of Wigan North Western. However, it's too far to get numbers and mostly through trees so not very exciting. I see what you'd expect... Avanti services, Northern units, freight of various sorts.

My walking and running routes along the Leeds Liverpool Canal pass under the WCML and the routes out of Wallgate to Kirkby, Southport, Manchester so occasionally see a Sprinter or two.

I'm similar in that I can very much hear the trains as they are about 20 metres away from my settee but as I am on the ground floor, I can't see them because of the fence. The only numbers I can see are the 350's that arrive or depart on the fast lines as LNWR kindly put their numbers high up on them :lol:
 
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How did a word like 'dreadful' become used in such a positive way? I assume it started with some sort of sarcastic comment when someone was asked how they found the ride behind a certain engine?
I would hypothesise that "dreadful" possible entered the railfan argot as a way for bashers to mask their delight at an ordinary engine failing & potentially requiring a substitute vehicle, which may be one not normally used to haul passengers - the opposite of a euphemism, if you will.
 

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When you think about it, isn't Dreadful (inspiring dread) the opposite of Awful (inspiring awe)?
 

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Thread reopened
Thanks Mag :)
Ah Mr Train is back :)

The train man cometh
Hi both, hope you are well? Great to have been enjoying the rails again over recent months and so thought now was the time to get some trip reports filed on here again. Was always a great section of the forum and hopefully it will start to pick up again.

I did my first ever 7 day rover back in April (although only did 5 days of it) to enjoy the last of the MML HSTs - this was something I was determined to do having missed out on both the end of the GWR and LNER HSTs and it was an epic 5 days which included lots of new routes for me and also included a cheeky sample of an Azuma or 2 as well - and to be fair, they aren't as bad as the GWR variant (certainly in terms of seat comfort) but they are not a HST :( I think that this may be the rover of choice for me to enjoy the 91s at some point as well - the area it covers is vast and it is reasonably priced as well. I hadn't planned to report on these outings as I knew that to keep on top of it, I'd need to be writing things up as I was on the move but to be honest I just wanted to sit back and enjoy the comfort of the Mk3 stock and the noise of the power car up front! I may revisit these and see if I can produce some sort of write up on what was achieved as amongst the HST fun, there was a bit of new haulage chalked off as well. But the main reason for getting this reopened was to write up on a more recent outing and I hope to have this done over the next couple of days.

Great to be back at it though :D
 

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Right, let's get this show back on the road and rail but note that there are some large images in this report.....

Toton & Water Orton - Wednesday 25th August 2021
Part 1 - Has anybody seen 60093?


It's early August, we have gone a matter of weeks since 'Freedom Day', I step outside of my apartment with the sole aim of heading to Stafford station for a good 69 - 69001 in this case.....and then it happens........

.......my phone rings, interrupting my joy of some Northern Soul, and I curse "which bloody scammer is it this time?!?". But it's not the voice of a scammer at the other end, it is the dulcet tones of a North Eastern man - yes ladies and gentlemen, I had a Geordie on the other end of the phone. Not just any Geordie though, this was a Rail Forums Geordie in the form of @47403. After a brief but very pleasant catch up, and with my 69 action just around the corner, that call was ended but things had happened, balls were suddenly in motion (nothing to do with my 69 action that day) and less than a week later the same number rung me again - this time whilst I was out during winds better suited to Hurricane Valley, and plans were finalised - I was off to Toton and Water Orton and not by myself for a change :D

I eventually got round to sorting my tickets out - the usual split ticketing required to obtain the best price between Stafford and Nottingham - and before I knew it, the day was upon us. Michael had done me (and him) a favour by allowing me to catch the later trains in the morning, meaning there was no silly 5am alarm call but it was still far too early when the alarm eventually went off. And so it was off to the station where I collected my tickets and boarded 350112 for the first time, completing the set of sighted, photted and hauled in as well - basically means it goes green on my spreadsheet :D

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My choice of which unit to settle in when it comes to 350s basically now revolves around whether the unit is likely to have plug sockets and so on this occasion 350252 played second fiddle but still one into the haulage book - yes, yes I know I wasn't in it but it had it's pantograph up and I felt it really pushing hard just outside Rugeley so it was definitely working ;) The busy 350s, which got even busier as we called at the Trent Valley stations, took me to Tamworth where the platforms were chaotic with people trying to board this service and others waiting for the Avanti stopper not far behind. I basically took the windmill approach to fight my way through the crowd, bashing people out of the way as I made it to the P2 steps (this probably didn't happen) and was soon in the relative quiet of P3 on the upper level. Not long to wait so I made a quick call to the mother so she could tell me to give her 3 rings later on to let her know I have made it back home safely but 170621 was not far off and although it was not a winner for anything, it was at least pretty quiet as I settled in for the journey to Nottingham
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Derby RTC was packed out as we passed by having reversed at Derby with a collection of 37s, 57s, HST power cars and the depot shunter moving some coaching stock around. The only need was ex GA Mk3 coach 11093 which became my 1st winner for sight of the day! I was soon arriving into Nottingham, a place I'd spent lots of time whilst doing my East Mids rover back in April, but there were no HSTs around this time so I had to settle for Michael who was waiting for me as I hit the platform. He was quick to point out 195008 sat in the opposite platform and that was another into the book and after a quick PNB, he lead me off to the station exit in the direction of an unknown car, driven by someone I had never met before - what could go wrong? Well actually nothing, because the person in question was not a crazed serial killer but instead Mickey's lovely other half. A swift lung sapping suck on a nicotine stick for Mickey and I was bundled into the back of the car - ok, I got into the back of the car but this doesn't sound half as interesting! It was quickly apparent what sort of day we were in for as the duo up front bounced jokes off one another - a well matched pair to say the least. Sat Nav set and we pulled away from Nottingham station and I was soon starting to learn what made Mickey's other half tick - and that thing is lifts.....yes, LIFTS!!!! So keep your eyes peeled for the upcoming "LIFT REVIEW 2021" book which should be hitting shelves in time for Xmas :D Apparently roundabouts are a step too far though but none the less the journey towards Toton pretty much flew by, even with the brown pants moment of the back end of the car in front getting closer and closer to us - some impressive, if not slightly late, braking ensured that I wasn't left writing this report from a hospital bed :lol: My nosiness ensured that I learnt a lot about Mickey's partner, including that she is looking forward to "flailing from behind a puppy dog at the KWVR" (@47403 can enlighten you all on that one :D ). Oh and we both sighted tram 230 which I think is the first NET tram I have logged

Anyway, having arrived at the main gates to Toton and getting some "get back train spotter" looks from the security guy, we were soon in the right area and parking up. Mickey being the excited child raced ahead, up a steep embankment and through brambles as the other 2 of us looked on at the bottom. I did question whether the gravel pathway would be the better option but he was adamant I should follow, and not fancying navigating through a thorny hedge, his other half decided to head back to the car and go on her own explore around an area she has previously lived. I managed to join Mickey at the top of the embankment and we were rewarded with the fantastic view of Toton depot in all it's glory. This was my first ever visit and it was just a wow moment to see the vast swathes of land this place covers! It was also perhaps unsurprising that one of the first locos we get to see is 66725 with it's Sunderland AFC livery considering who I was with - here it is having joined up with 66765 and heading through the depot with many other loco's stabled
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Mickey had purchased some very good bino's (not sure if it was specifically for this outing but it was a very necessary addition to our kit) and had made me chief bino operator. It was only after about 15 mins of using them that a thought came to my mind - "Mickey, have you put black marker pen around the eye holes and that is why you gave me these?" He was adamant this was not the case but his laughter did little to stem my concern - I wouldn't be able to confirm it until very much later in the day but I'm sure I saw him noting it down as a 'thing to do next time' :D One of the key reasons for the visit to this amazing place was to try and nab Mickey's final Class 60 for sight - 60093, a loco that had managed to avoid him for 30 years (missing it by a matter of minutes back in the day when he was late arriving to one of the many locations around Newcastle). I'd scanned the first batch of 60s we'd seen but there was nothing there, well not for him anyway but I was giving him plenty of numbers to note down! We moved further along the bankside and met a chap who visits regularly and told us many a tale of his trips into Europe which he was hoping to resume in the near future. We were still plucking numbers from anything visible through the bino's as we happily chatted away, but I could see impatience seeping into Mickey - he had one thing on his mind and he knew where it was probably based. We departed from the chap, and moved further along the bank to be met by this sight
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I was working along the row of sorry looking 60s, hoping that each time I moved my head to the right that the next number would set off the biggest class clearing klaxon we have ever witnessed. But each one came and went with the odd one offering a bit of hope by finishing in a 3 but still no sign of 093. We got as close as we could to the long row....
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But those pesky wagons dumped in front of the locos actually meant that being at track level was the worse view we'd had so far. We got chatting to a workman who was there to erect some security fencing around this part of the compound - remarkably, they weren't allowed to bring their van down here and he was waiting for his mates to return carrying their equipment from roughly half a mile away. Mickey explained what he was doing and that he'd travelled all the way from Newcastle to track this one loco down - I knew that this would result in the complete extraction or urine, or complete pity. This chap went for the latter though as he ventured off down the line of loco's to see if he could see 093 - an amazing gesture from him but one that ultimately ended in further disappointment. There's a 2nd row of locos behind the row we could see and unfortunately the chap wasn't authorised to start wandering over tracks and so we were left to assume that 093 was sat in that row - had Mickey got as close as seeing the roof of the one that is slowly getting away? As much as I am sure Mickey would have preferred to stay and just gaze at the row of abandoned loco's we decided that it just wasn't going to happen today and so began to head back up the bankside again - only to be greeted by the sight of an artic lorry heading towards us along what can only be described as a footpath. I imagine those workman were seething to see such a vehicle down there considering they had to leave their van at the entrance. We did a final scout of what was on depot and I tried my best to pluck numbers off some other 60s that were hidden away but the hope for 093 had seeped away and we headed back to the car - via the gravel footpath I had mentioned earlier as an alternative to the bramble ridden embankment.

Mickey's other half had literally just arrived back from her tour of her past and was keen to know how successful the bankside expedition had been. Mickey was undoubtedly disappointed to have missed out on 60093 once again but it was countered with other winners he had not expected to see. As we departed for the next part of our adventure, I started to log the sightings and I was amazed that I had hit the following cops

59202
60007 - 60008 - 60009 - 60029 - 60032 - 60047 - 60051 - 60058 - 60064 - 60069 - 60073 - 60074 - 60090 - 60500
66043 - 66073
66114 - 66138 - 66152 - 66182
66205 - 66230
67019 - 67025


25 winners to go with the ones from earlier made this to be a very worthwhile outing and there was still half the day left to go at.
I was going to do this report in one go but I have rambled enough in this already and so I shall break it down into 2 parts and try and get the 2nd part up tomorrow evening. For now I shall leave you with this shot of those unloved 60s - is 60093 in there?
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My stats at the halfway point you ask?

For Sight

Winners: 26
Coaching Stock Winners: 1
Tram Winners: 1
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A
TOCs completed: N/A

For Haulage


Winners: 2
Total Mileage: 62 miles 15 chains
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A

A great morning well spent, time to head to the next destination so make sure you return for part 2 :D
 

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Great report Mr Train (although I’d have made zero).

Stored 60s…
Row 1 - 60027-60037-60042-60097-60030-60041-60068-60043-60094-60072-60048
Row 2 - 60067-60032-60088-60003-60058-60051-60069-60031-60005-60053-60078-
60025-60093-60083-60023-60089-60033-60084-60052-60034-60073-60036-60077-60012
Tell the geordie to cut his whinging and tick it off - it’s there and he saw the roof if not the number.
 

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Welcome back good sir! :D

Not time for a better response so far, but I did enjoy the read! I hope you'll manage to find time (and enthusiasm) for sharing your rover adventure with us at some point, it sounds like it was great fun from your summary.

At least your outstanding report is not as long ago as one I haven't wrote yet, which dates back almost a year ago to October 2020 o_O
 

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Welcome back good sir! :D

Not time for a better response so far, but I did enjoy the read! I hope you'll manage to find time (and enthusiasm) for sharing your rover adventure with us at some point, it sounds like it was great fun from your summary.

At least your outstanding report is not as long ago as one I haven't wrote yet, which dates back almost a year ago to October 2020 o_O
I have to be honest, I'd thought initially I may just leave this thread locked and not bother with reports too much but seeing @47403 producing great reports on his own thread, followed by meeting up with him, has motivated me nicely and I really enjoyed writing this last night. I'd set myself an hour to do a quick write up of the whole day but that hour came and went and I was only half way through what is above, which just shows how much I got into it :)

This may well lead to me digging into the memory bank to report on the rover, especially as it appears my weekend is going to be a fairly quiet one this weekend. We shall see.....

And if you are still determined to produce a report from 12 months ago, I doth my cap to your determination
 

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Great report Mr Train (although I’d have made zero).


Tell the geordie to cut his whinging and tick it off - it’s there and he saw the roof if not the number.
I really should stop twisting and count it, shouldn't I skymonster, my other half said the same but sadly I won't. Stupid I know but I need to see the number, even more so with it being the last one.

Oh I got my Sunday title in a trip report. I'm truly honoured Matt. Great read, this first part of the trip, I was creased at some of the references in this. Of which I will explain some. Great first part though. Firstly Well done on clearing the 350s for everything. An impressive feat in my book, as I'm chasing some of them for sight myself.

Yes it's TRUE, the other half has been learning to flail. I showed her the documentary the bashers on youtube, it had 37s pr puppy dogs as she refers to them, I knew she'd watch it, she wondered what they were doing?, after the, is that not dangerous being out the window like that and what they doing with their arms? so explaining flailing was fun, even funnier watching her do it. I do hope she tries it when were out on the KWVR next week, I'll be bad laughing.

As for the other halves 'the love of lifts', it's simple really, shes ok going up the stairs but she suffers from vertigo and coming down them, especially in the dark and dingy Bat Cave, they really disorientate her and she gets terrified shes gonna fall. It's our in joke about using the lifts on Stations. Also, she says its slows me down looking for stuff, so she'd rather use the lift and let me fly off to find stuff, we might miss if I'm helping her down.the stairs. However on our 3 day stint I did think she was just building up her mileage in them or trying to ride every Stations lift. It's a gentle bit of fun really, imagine she could be flailing on a particularly noisy.lift. Who knows.

I really do wish I'd thought.of putting polish on the rims of the bino's but I'm so stupid at times, I'd have forgotten and been the daft sod with the rings round my eyes for the rest of the day. My thinking was Matt's eyes would be better than mine and he'd have a better chance of us getting the all right number and we'd score as many as humanly possible, even though the binos are good ones, I only got 66778 which made up for 60093, well in a small way it did.

It made for a canny day that the other half had went to see her old house, cos I know her family have all been talking about it and recounting old memories together there. I think that side of it was good for her. The fact she told Matt and I to take as long as we like. Meant there was no pressure to rush. I was over the moon you roped in so many though. I'd also like to hear about that day out chasing the zings on the EMDR.
 
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I really should stop twisting and count it, shouldn't I skymonster, my other half said the same but sadly I won't. Stupid I know but I need to see the number, even more so with it being the last one.

Oh I got my Sunday title in a trip report. I'm truly honoured Matt. Great read, this first part of the trip, I was creased at some of the references in this. Of which I will explain some. Great first part though. Firstly Well done on clearing the 350s for everything. An impressive feat in my book, as I'm chasing some of them for sight myself.

Yes it's TRUE, the other half has been learning to flail. I showed her the documentary the bashers on youtube, it had 37s pr puppy dogs as she refers to them, I knew she'd watch it, she wondered what they were doing?, after the, is that not dangerous being out the window like that and what they doing with their arms? so explaining flailing was fun, even funnier watching her do it. I do hope she tries it when were out on the KWVR next week, I'll be bad laughing.

As for the other halves 'the love of lifts', it's simple really, shes ok going up the stairs but she suffers from vertigo and coming down them, especially in the dark and dingy Bat Cave, they really disorientate her and she gets terrified shes gonna fall. It's our in joke about using the lifts on Stations. Also, she says its slows me down looking for stuff, so she'd rather use the lift and let me fly off to find stuff, we might miss if I'm helping her down.the stairs. However on our 3 day stint I did think she was just building up her mileage in them or trying to ride every Stations lift. It's a gentle bit of fun really, imagine she could be flailing on a particularly noisy.lift. Who knows.

I really do wish I'd thought.of putting polish on the rims of the bino's but I'm so stupid at times, I'd have forgotten and been the daft sod with the rings round my eyes for the rest of the day. My thinking was Matt's eyes would be better than mine and he'd have a better chance of us getting the all right number and we'd score as many as humanly possible, even though the binos are good ones, I only got 66778 which made up for 60093, well in a small way it did.

It made for a canny day that the other half had went to see her old house, cos I know her family have all been talking about it and recounting old memories together there. I think that side of it was good for her. The fact she told Matt and I to take as long as we like. Meant there was no pressure to rush. I was over the moon you roped in so many though. I'd also like to hear about that day out chasing the zings on the EMDR.
It was only that one particular 350 that I had completed for everything mate - I'm a long way short of completing the class for everything haha.

Glad you enjoyed the read, I enjoyed writing it and certainly enjoyed the day. I'd hoped you'd take the references I made in good nature and you certainly have - thanks for the explanations for everyone else :D

Witnessing your other half practicing flailing was a sight to behold, more so because she has it down to a tee already. You definitely need to be on a platform whilst she is behind the 37 at KWVR so you can film her bashing in action :D
 

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I know what you mean about Lord Spoon Goon's trip report stirring something up, I'll explain my desire to get a trip report up when I actually type it up later. I got to finish work a little early today, only 20-odd minutes, and I will get cracking after a much needed meal.

Unless I get carried away and take the bike out for a short local spin in this glorious weather...!
 
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