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I think Crewe will probably give you all she's got within an hour or two if you don't need much Virgin stuff. Depending upon your ticket type (ie whether you'll get back in again) you could always head to the 'Horse Landing' (turn left out of the station, over the bridge and then left again down towards the Diesel Depot) as this will give you a view of any freight using the avoiders.

EDIT 2: There's a funky looking GBRF light loco heading through as I type, 57303 is due through around 1510 (assuming it doesn't take the avoiders), and a couple of potentially interesting workings later on, but it's pretty sparse these days.

I had considered venturing outside the station to check out the avoiders but decided against it as it's a lot of stuff I'd see at Stafford anyway.

57303 made another appearance later in the afternoon having spent a bit of time at the Arriva depot, then there was a flask train and also a surprise visit from a RHTT. Other than that it was generally pretty poor but nonetheless a report will follow, probably tomorrow now
 
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Other than the units on West Wales - Manchester services, plus all the 350s on Crewe - Euston services.

It was the Wales stuff and Northern stuff that interested me the most but it was all a bit too infrequent to keep me interested. There will definitely be better outings for eating into these stocks in the future
 

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I look forward to reading about your jolly to Crewe - I hope you managed a quick glance over the fence into the Heritage Centre! ;)
 

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It was the Wales stuff and Northern stuff that interested me the most but it was all a bit too infrequent to keep me interested. There will definitely be better outings for eating into these stocks in the future
Oh I look forward to that.
So winners are drying up at Stafford Mr Train. Happens to.the best of us mate, I'm sure you'll still get a fair share of gap fillers at Stafford. When money permits, a trip out on a Cheshire Day Rangeer to get to Man Picc/Vic will do the trick for you. Plus the added bonus of skip haulage out to Chester. A case of Northern Ventures, Northern Gains.
 

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Oh I look forward to that.
So winners are drying up at Stafford Mr Train. Happens to.the best of us mate, I'm sure you'll still get a fair share of gap fillers at Stafford. When money permits, a trip out on a Cheshire Day Rangeer to get to Man Picc/Vic will do the trick for you. Plus the added bonus of skip haulage out to Chester. A case of Northern Ventures, Northern Gains.

Indeed, the local only really threw up a mass of winners over my first few winners but once the Pendos, Voyagers and 350s had started to be chalked off it was all down to the freight and now I've really dug into the 66s, it's becoming harder and harder. It's all a sign of progress though and as fun as it is to go places and see winner after winner I'm quite looking forward to the challenge of hunting those remaining locos/units when I'm in need of single figures.

The Cheshire Day Ranger is certainly one I will be making use of. Will probably be one I do over winter as I want to get some of the Merseyrail stuff ticked off with it as well and it seems Manchester and Liverpool stations are the sort to be done during the winter months
 

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Good spot my friend. It passes me a few times so will head across at some point as I have zero 73s in the book so far. Thanks for the heads up
Hope you got them - they were at Derby when I passed through at 09:30 this morning and they left heading your way...
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The Cheshire Day Ranger is certainly one I will be making use of.

I'm doing it w/c 12th November (day tbc) and will start at least with Padgate to Piccadilly, 67 to Chester, then Crewe, Stoke, Piccadilly, Lime St, Victoria, Piccadilly, then see where I'm up to. Buxton and/or Hadfield/Glossop probably.
 

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I'm doing it w/c 12th November (day tbc) and will start at least with Padgate to Piccadilly, 67 to Chester, then Crewe, Stoke, Piccadilly, Lime St, Victoria, Piccadilly, then see where I'm up to. Buxton and/or Hadfield/Glossop probably.

Sounds like a good plan. I'm planning to use it to allow me to improve the numbers of Northern, TPE and Merseyrail stuff for the book of sights
 

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Wednesday 24th October 2018 - Once Upon A Time It Was The Mecca

A required trip to the glory that is Crewe gave me an opportunity to visit what was a Mecca of the railways in my younger days. Sitting at the south end of the platform offered many hours of enjoyment as loco after loco would be seen working around the yards and not to forget the many many loco hauled passenger services that would be constantly appearing. I'd been warned that it is not what it was and wow was that proven to be correct. Anyway my day started with a trip on the 1024 Virgin service to Liverpool Lime Street and was at least a bit of new haulage with 390112 offering the power to Crewe. Sat on the Basford Hall side of the train allowed me to spot a couple of Colas locos in the yard with these later being confirmed as 66846 and dud 56105. This was a good start as Colas stocks have proven hard to come by thus far. There were also 3x FLR 86s raked together but unfortunately too far away to identify and as there were also others elsewhere in the yard TOPS was of no use this time around. There were also a few 66s knocking about waiting to drag containers off around the country but again the distance proved too much in gaining any identification. We pulled into platform 6 and upon alighting I immediately heard that lovely low growling sound of an idling 68 and was pleased to find TPE 68032 sat in the north bays awaiting a driver training run to Wavertree Junction
TPE Class 68 68032 at Crewe by The_Train

A quick check of the departure screens showed nothing else was due into these bays anytime soon so I strolled down to the other end and was rewarded with 08631 performing some shunting duties in the Holding Sidings before 323223 entered the book as it arrived into P1. My steady start continued with a TfW 175 arriving from Manchester on route to Wales, 175009 doing the honours with 150279 arriving into the bay platform 7 having arrived from Swansea. It was the bay at the opposite end that would yield the next success as TfW 150281 arrived from Chester before I snagged another 175, in the form of 102, just before I had to head out into the glorious confines of the town of Crewe. As I headed towards my appointment I realised it was on the same estate as the Virgin Talent training site and I was sure that I'd read somewhere that the remains of the one Pendolino I was never going to see on the National network was around there somewhere. As I had a few minutes to spare I strolled around and was rewarded with the sight of the infamous 390033 (1 driving car and a coach) which is used as part of the Virgin training process having been involved in the Grayrigg derailment. Unfortunately as I was slightly rushed I forgot to grab a photo but still that completely finishes off the 390s for me (even though I'd classed it as complete without 033 previously) so there was at least an unexpected surprise to the day.

Having completed my appointment I was back on the walk to the station and to be quite frank was keen to get back off the streets and to the sanctuary of the station. There is something about Crewe that makes me very uneasy. Anyway I was back on the station and having walked straight past the Tesco Express that @Kite159 told me about it had to empty my wallet to purchase a sandwich on the platform....costly but at least this was reasonably nice to eat. As I munched away I was soon back up and running with 323228 being the next Northern unit into the book but it was a good 20 minutes of dud Pendolinos and Voyagers before my next winner arrived thanks to TfW 175005. Crewe was disappointing me in so many ways, the memories from my childhood were that of a fantastic station with lovely structures holding up the great big roof, but now these structures were looking old, worn, tired and unloved and the roofing has great areas that have been removed. Despite this the sight of the first 319 perked me up a bit as 364 entered the book before we had a bit of loco action. @palmersears had offered a bit of gen regarding a 57 moving around Crewe and as much as I'd missed it earlier in the day it returned to the station having spent a bit of time at the Arriva depot. Unfortunately it was dud 57303 but this was soon followed by 175105 as I continued to slowly improve my TfW numbers. I also grabbed another Northern winner as 323224 made an appearance in platform 1 and it was this same platform that offered my next success in the form of 319376. More of the very limited loco action next as a flask train passed by with 68002 and 68018 working Valley Nuclear Electric to Crewe Coal Sidings
DRS Class 68s 68002 and 68018 working through Crewe by The_Train

I was operating on a winner every 20-30 minutes by this time and was struggling to stay interested, not because of this stat but more with the lack of activity - there is only so many Pendolinos you can watch. However, the winners did keep coming and 175002 was next as it headed towards its final destination of Manchester Piccadilly having come from Carmarthen. I'd decided that the next Pendolino to Stafford would be my haulage home so I went to grab a coffee to help me through the final hour but as I queued I spotted some lights in the distance that certainly didn't look like those from a unit. As the lights edged closer it became apparent that we had a surprise visitor (couldn't find anything on RTT) so I bailed out of the coffee queue and dashed down to the south end to find a RHTT with Colas 56s, in the form of dud 078 and winner 087, at either end
Colas Class 56 56078 at Crewe by The_Train
Colas Class 56 56087 at Crewe by The_Train, on Flickr

Once this had departed I went back to grab my coffee and headed over to platform 5 from where I was able to chalk off 319446. There was another Derby shuttle in the bays as well but as with all of these today, 153326 was a dud but before my journey home I was able to nab another 319 as 367 pulled into P1 before 390046 arrived to take me on the short journey back to Stafford. The darkness made spotting anything in Basford impossible and despite being able to see a couple of TPE 68s in the Arriva shed, there was too much distance to make any form of ID. During my journey back I did a quick scan of RTT and saw that there was a freight run due through not so long after my arrival so I hung around to see FLR 66607 working 620G 1502 Bow Depot Flhh to Tunstead Sdgs

Sight Summary

Winners: 20
Classes completed: 1 - 390 Pendolino (Again!!)
Sub classes completed: N/A

Haulage Summary

Winners: 2
Total Mileage: 48 miles
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A
 

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A few bonuses there to sandwich your appointment, but you're right Crewe isn't anything like it used to be. Having said that, I think you're going to have to go back again at some point to pay homage to a certain electric loco in the Heritage Centre...
 

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A few bonuses there to sandwich your appointment, but you're right Crewe isn't anything like it used to be. Having said that, I think you're going to have to go back again at some point to pay homage to a certain electric loco in the Heritage Centre...

That was on my mind but as the actual day was more about the appointment than spotting I decided against it. Is the Heritage Centre open through the winter months?
 

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Thursday 25th October 2018 - The Local Strikes Back

Having spent a bit of time on here whinging that the local was churning up little else but duds just lately, I wasn't about to turn my back on Stafford just yet. Armed with a bit of gen from @Skymonster regarding a Network Rail working, I decided to head across around lunchtime to check it out. However, before this I'd noticed that a TPE Mk5 test run was out and about heading back north from Bletchley and with limited time before it passed Stafford my only option was to jump in the car and grab it as it passed through the Northern approach and I was duly rewarded with 68025 with DVT 12804 at the other end. I made it to the station 90 minutes or so later (on foot this time) just in time to see an engineers train being worked to Bescot by 68004. There was quite a number of spotters/photographers at the station and I think every one of us got a little excited at hearing the 68s growl as it headed towards the station - just a shame it was a dud. Anyway, it wasn't long after this that @Skymonster was proven to be correct as the Network Rail 'minions' 73951 and 73952 made an appearance working a Derby RTC runaround
Network Rail Class 73 73951 passing Stafford by The_Train
Network Rail Class 73 73952 at Stafford by The_Train

It wasn't too long after this that another winner rolled by as DBC 66005 went by working a rake full of Land Rovers to Southampton but this was followed by the standard 90s that seem to be welded to the ex Scotland container trains and a very filthy looking 66050/051 working the RHTT. I'd decided that my early afternoon session would end after the GBRf cement train went past as things quieten down after that and it was worth waiting for as 66731 was added to the book.

I called time after this and headed home to complete necessary housework (living the dream eh?!?) and once this was completed I spotted a few other moves that may throw up some surprises so I headed back across at about half 3 just as the delayed Felixstowe to Ditton trundled by with 66513 at the helm. I also got to see 68004 returning back from Bescot as it headed home to Gresty Bridge having worked the engineers train earlier but it was Freightliner that provided better news as 66550 worked the Ditton to Felixstowe service through platform 4. The afternoon Tesco train was also out and about today as well but unfortunately it was 88010 with the power so I remain at 50% of the 88s seen
DRS Class 88 88010 at Stafford by The_Train

What the 88 couldn't offer, the next DBC 66 certainly could as 66140 went into the book as it worked empty car wagons back to Halewood before yet another beauty was thrown up on the early evening Toton to Crewe working as the very colourful 66720 ran light engine through the fasts
DBC Class 66 66140 passing Stafford by The_Train
GBRf Class 66 66720 at Stafford by The_Train

It was also flask day today and surely it wouldn't be the same pairing I saw at Crewe yesterday? Oh you better believe it was as 68018 and 68002 worked their way to Crewe before I was able to nab a couple more track machines as DR73117 and DR77907 crept through the goods line heading towards Crewe P.A.D. I hung around to see 92014 working the cars again and would normally have called it a day at this point but I noticed 3 differing movements all within touching distance of the station that kept me interested so I stuck it out to see DRS 37422 heading north with saloon car 975025 "Caroline" in tow as it headed towards Gresty Bridge having worked up from Milton Keynes. Next up was a working from Crewe TMD (E) down to Bescot and it churned up a rake of locos as DBC 66001 came through with DBC 66056 and DBC 67015 in tow. The final act of the night was very dud 90046 working light to Wembley but that final flurry had made today very fruitful indeed

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Winners: 16
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A
 

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Pleased to see you opening your Class 73 account - and 14 other winners at the local too... Wow!

I do notice however that you have now resorted to noting coaches (saloon cars) to boost numbers! :o Although I guess someone will tell me Caroline has got driving controls in it and is therefore a pseudo-DVT cum DBSO type thing...
 

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Pleased to see you opening your Class 73 account - and 14 other winners at the local too... Wow!

I do notice however that you have now resorted to noting coaches (saloon cars) to boost numbers! :o Although I guess someone will tell me Caroline has got driving controls in it and is therefore a pseudo-DVT cum DBSO type thing...

Desperate times mean desperate measures at the local. Track machines, Driving Trailers and now saloon cars are all needed to keep the winner count up. I'm even starting to plan a tram system for the local area so I can start to count trams at the local as well ;)
 

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An interesting couple of trips.
Crewe certainly isn't what it used to be; on my first visit it was the old layout and I remember an 83 being stabled on what was then a siding but is now the site of the up fast through the centre.
Mention of the yellow 73s gave me flashbacks to the SVR diesel gala in 2016 <>shudder</>.
 

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An interesting couple of trips.
Crewe certainly isn't what it used to be; on my first visit it was the old layout and I remember an 83 being stabled on what was then a siding but is now the site of the up fast through the centre.
Mention of the yellow 73s gave me flashbacks to the SVR diesel gala in 2016 <>shudder</>.

I'm pretty sure that the layout is how it was when I was a kid so I'm guessing the siding had already been turned into a through line by the time I joined the game.........although as I type this I'm kind of doubting myself so I'd be interested to know when this happened if anyone has that information.

What is a certainty is the fact that it is nowhere near as busy as I remember it and it seems that it has been allowed to be run down, particularly with regards to platform structures. It just gives off the feeling of somewhere that is worn, tired and in need of some TLC
 

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Wow things have certainly changed from that layout and if it was remodelled in 1985 then I was right first time around in that it was before my time on the platform....in fact it was very nearly before my time on the planet o_O

And don't worry about posting it on this thread, I love reading about how things were previously and comparing it to how things look now
 

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I've slowly been adding my sightings to my new ICRS and it's thrown up something I missed previously. It would transpire that during my little trip to Tamworth in early October, I completed the 170/1 sub class which I didn't realise at the time so it's slightly delayed but a very mini claxon has gone off to celebrate this completion :)

As part of these celebrations I've decided that I may plan a day out for this Thursday (hastily brought forward by other things taking precedence for the next couple of weeks). My first instinct is to complete my planned jaunt to Leeds via Sheffield to nab the 20s on RHTT (do they run through Sheffield on a Thursday as I can't see any paths on RTT?) and also see what Leeds can offer on the Northern/TPE front. Other than that the only other thing that comes to mind is to do the Manchester/Liverpool trip using the Cheshire Day Ranger but as ever I am open to suggestions if anyone has any?
 

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If you do Leeds ... get a train out to Woodlesford .... sit on the left side facing direction of travel. Naff all at Woodlesford but you do pass Leeds Midland Road Depot and the cl.70s in a row.

On the return sit on the right side facing direction of tracel and you should see more of the depot.
 

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I see Mark has given you the RHTT paths Mr. Train - the 11:17 to 11:40 pauses on track US1 and is ideal for photos from P6. Unless of course you are an early bird and catch the 08:25 to 09:12 reversal (which I note is booked for DSS that is, I believe, between P1 and P2). On both occasions they arrive from and depart to the north - the left if you stand with your back to the main station concourse.

Still nine Freightliner 70s beside the through lines at Midland Road (and a few more elsewhere on the depot). If you catch one of the Northern Sheffield-Leeds express via Barnsley services - at xx:18 or xx:45 from Sheffield - you will go straight past them on your right hand side as you approach Leed (normally about three or four minutes out). Do NOT use the faster Cross Country services as they go a different way into Leeds.

On a different note, 345052 was transferred to Crewe today so it should be working through your patch in the very near future. Oh and congrats on the 170/1s!
 

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I see Mark has given you the RHTT paths Mr. Train - the 11:17 to 11:40 pauses on track US1 and is ideal for photos from P6. Unless of course you are an early bird and catch the 08:25 to 09:12 reversal (which I note is booked for DSS that is, I believe, between P1 and P2). On both occasions they arrive from and depart to the north - the left if you stand with your back to the main station concourse.

Still nine Freightliner 70s beside the through lines at Midland Road (and a few more elsewhere on the depot). If you catch one of the Northern Sheffield-Leeds express via Barnsley services - at xx:18 or xx:45 from Sheffield - you will go straight past them on your right hand side as you approach Leed (normally about three or four minutes out). Do NOT use the faster Cross Country services as they go a different way into Leeds.

On a different note, 345052 was transferred to Crewe today so it should be working through your patch in the very near future. Oh and congrats on the 170/1s!

Thanks for the info on the 20s and also Midland Road. I assume your rights and lefts are based on facing direction of travel?

And thanks for the heads up on the latest 345 to reach Crewe. Hopefully this one will be out this week so I'll make a special trip to the local on Wednesday to hopefully chalk it off
 
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