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Never even saw this path so an opportunity missed there. I knew it was up this way as it pulled a charter out of Crewe on Saturday so should have kept my eyes peeled got a move like this :frown:

There's still ten in a long line stored at Leeds Midland Road...

So the answer is no then? :lol::E

Hope you have a great day out in the West Midlands tomorrow - enjoy the 139s! ;)

Thanks mate, I'm looking forward to it. Although not quite on the level of @Kite159 and others on here, this will be a first experience of hopping about a bit. Got my plan in place so hopefully it all falls into place :)
 
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West Midlands Daytripper - Wednesday 26th September 2018 (Part One)

Originally my next big move had been planned for an outing to Reading via a stint in the 2nd city but circumstance changed this and a job interview in Smethwick saw a quickfire plan of action put into place for a day around the West Midlands using the well priced West Midlands Network 1 Day ticket. This is an £8.70 ticket that allows a full day of travel (peak time included) on trains, trams and buses within the network area. For those interested the link below details the area covered by the ticket:
http://www.railrover.org/rovers/west-midlands-day-tripper.html

This would be my first real experience of hopping around stations and services so I was quite excited to give it a go. I've marked trains I've had haulage behind before but never really marked them on my reports so for this one I will bold winners for sight as always and indicate winners for haulage in red with winners for both therefore being red and bold.

So on to the day and as the first part of my day was the more important aspect I decided not to rush about to try and see which 88 was on the morning Tesco train, instead choosing to take my time in getting ready and ensuring I at least looked the part. Unfortunately this effort proved to be unnecessary but we will get to that later. I could have travelled direct from Stafford to Smethwick Galton Bridge but I decided to break my journey at Wolverhampton as this would increase my variation of traction and also give me a chance to purchase my Daytripper ticket. I'd planned for the 0825 service as my opening train of the day and despite arriving at Stafford early enough for an earlier XC service and also an LNWR train, however I decided to get a coffee and hang around at Stafford to wait for a couple of freights to pass by. These freights comprised of a dud 66 and a dud 70 but I at least enjoyed my coffee. The 0825 XC service arrived and departed Stafford 1 minute late with a very packed 220011 doing the honours, so I took up my usual Voyager position in a crammed vestibule for the short hop to Wolverhampton. Having sat in the approach to Wolverhampton for what seemed like an eternity (apparently the M6 wasn't the only transport facility suffering with congestion this morning) we finally arrived 7 minutes late but fortunately I'd planned a lengthy layover to allow me time to grab my network ticket, which I duly did. I headed back to platform 3 to await my train to Smethwick and with little happening on the rails (a couple of dud 350s came and went) I got to admire the lovely looking bridge at the north end of the station - a very modern looking glass structure which gives nice views of the Northern approach as you cross it. Soon after, my next haulage arrived 2 minutes early with 158820 leading 158835 on their journey from Crewe and Wrexham General to Birmingham International for Arriva Trains Wales and having departed Wolverhampton bang on time, we were soon arriving into Smethwick Galton Bridge (low level) bang on time
ATW 158835 at Smethwick Galton Bridge by The_Train

As I was leaving Galton Bridge, I did manage to bag my first 172s for sight as 172216 and 172217 went into the book but the next part of my day was the main event and as I'd given myself plenty of time I decided to walk it to my destination. The trek started with a wander along the local canal and I must admit that it was lovely, if not admit little secluded and quiet. Following my phone map I was soon back at street level and admittedly regretting the plan of walking as the weather gods had thrown up a sunny, warm day but I ploughed on nonetheless and was soon lost as my phone wanted me back on the canal at an area where the canal walkway was gated off. A quick scan of the map gave me a plan b and eventually I made it to my destination, just about on time and feeling a little sweaty (note to self, don't endure walks to interviews on hot days). A quick check of the companies sign in book showed me the guy I was seeing had had multiple visitors during the week and having endured a pretty pointless interview (the interviewer was ultra dismissive from the start and gave off the impression that I was keeping him from his 'real' work), it felt almost like his mind was made up even before my interview. Before I knew it, I was back outside feeling slightly dejected but knowing I had the remainder of the day on the rails perked me up a bit. I voted against a walk back to the station so began to hunt for local taxi numbers but as I did so an empty taxi pulled up on the estate and although he wasn't supposed to, I managed to talk him into taking me back to Galton Bridge (his next pickup was 15 minutes away anyway).

This was the part of the day where I'd not planned a specific time for my next train as I was unsure how long I would be in Smethwick for. My arrival back at Galton Bridge came just a few minutes before the next train to Birmingham Moor Street which would be my next destination. Whilst waiting on the high level platforms for this service 172332 went into the book as it headed towards Kidderminster before 172340 arrived to form my power towards Birmingham. My arrival into Moor Street was greeted by 168112 and 168106 forming a Chiltern service and having had a quick glance around I decided to cross the footbridge over to platform 2 as it seemed the best vantage point for all lines. Once over here I was able to chalk off 165007 which had terminated in the bays and as could be expected of a first visit to Moor Street I sat myself down to start chalking off the 172 winners which started with 335, 336, 331 and 342 within the first 10 minutes
WMT Class 172 172342 at Birmingham Moor Street by The_Train

It was at this point that I realised just how nice and quaint a station Birmingham Moor Street is. For a station in the centre of the 2nd largest city in England to have maintained its remarkable historic features is a credit to all those involved in the upkeep of the station. And as we are talking about how nice something looks it seems apt that my next sight was that of a 68 arriving with a terminating service from London Marylebone with 68014 grumbling it's way up to the buffers and having trekked down the length of the platform I was able to ascertain that 82301 was the supporting act. I was able to tick off another 172 as 172339 came and went before I decided a coffee was needed so I nipped to the small coffee stand next to the barriers for a nice latte, if not a tad on the small side for the price. More 172s went into the book as 212, 221, 234 and 214 all came and went but I suffered an early setback as my first repeat action occurred sooner than I anticipated as 172216 and 172217 that I'd seen earlier at Smethwick came by along with 168112 which had been my first sighting at Moor Street. Undeterred by these minor issues, we were soon back on winner street as 172345 was bagged along with 172211 and 172218. It was all about the 172s at Moor Street and WMT certainly keep the station busy and although a few more duds passed through, 172341 did find its way into the book. 168111 also gets the bold treatment as do 172343 working by itself and 172220 and 172215 working a tandem service towards Whitlocks End. A little break in play was ended by that glorious growl of a 68 as another ex London service crept into platform 3 but my excitement was tainted somewhat when I realised it was 68010 which I'd been surprised to see at Stafford recently hauling ballast from Mountsorrel
Class 68 68010 arrives at Birmingham Moor Street by The_Train

However, it was an opportunity to chalk off another DVT and another trek down the platform allowed me to see that it was indeed a winner in the form of 82309. This wander was well timed because the service that had terminated in platform 4 was ready to depart so I was able to marvel in the sound of 68014 pushing it's way out of Birmingham
Class 68 68014 departing Birmingham Moor Street by The_Train

I'd been at Moor Street for an hour and a half by now and the repeats were now starting to become more frequent but 172337 was a new addition to the collection of winners with 172344 following very shortly afterwards. A tandem 172222 and 172213 service to Stratford-upon-Avon was a pleasant break from duds and Chilterns 168216 was also chalked off. As the duds were mounting up by now, I decided my next move should be implemented so I jumped on the next service to Stourbridge Junction which was headed by 172221 with 172212 in support. It was a quiet service so I took a seat in the rear portion of the train but Moor Street wasn't finished with me yet and I was able to mark off 153354 and 170632 as we departed and they arrived working together on route to Whitlocks End. Not much to report on the journey to Stourbridge although passing through Snow Hill did give me my first opportunity to see the local trams but for the life of me I couldn't find where the numbers were - was I really looking for the numbers of trams? What has @Skymonster done to me? o_O I put that to the back of my mind and settled in for the jaunt across to Stourbridge with only a few duds passing us by on the way before we arrived at the services final destination slightly ahead of schedule
Class 172 172212 at Stourbridge Junction by The_Train

My plan didn't keep me in Stourbridge for too long as there was only one thing that I was there for and it didn't take long for 139001 to appear for my first sighting of this brilliant and slightly bizarre little machine. I made the short trip down to Stourbridge Town and you can certainly feel every little bump in the rails - not sure I'd like to travel much further on one of these. Also, why is there a door on both sides of the unit as surely the one side is the only one ever used? Anyway it was good to enjoy a trip on it for the novelty factor and after after quick photo at Town, we were back on our way to Junction. One thing of interest at this point in my day is that this was my 5th train of the day and was the first time I'd been asked to show my ticket!
Class 139 139001 at Stourbridge Town by The_Train

As we headed back into Junction I remembered to have a look at the shed and as I'd been told it would be, the door was open and 139002 was visible so although it's a small fleet, it's still a completed class :E my arrival back into Junction coincided with the arrival of 172332 which was heading back towards Birmingham so I jumped on and decided that I would sample Snow Hill this time around. Again we passed a few units but none of interest until we neared Snow Hill where I was finally able to locate the numbers on the trams and 33 was duly noted. As soon as my pen finished writing I could feel myself chasing @Skymonster down that slippery slope :| I instantly felt as though I needed to justify my logging of a tram and it was simple - they have wheels and carry passengers so a winner is a winner. Oh wait, buses do that as well.......oh dear, the slope is getting steeper :s8-) I needed to move on and fast, so I was unbelievably happy to see 168219 sat in Snow Hill as we arrived, seen here next to my haulage from Stourbridge to Snow Hill
Class 172 172332 at Birmingham Snow Hill by The_Train

I found Snow Hill to be a strange little station. It had the look of a big station and is based in a big city, but there seemed to be little going on. In fact I spent a good chunk of my time there enjoying the sun and watching some crazy workers hanging out of an unfinished high rise building as a crane dropped a big piece of glass towards them. I hope they are paid well! The quietness of the station was broken (well not really as they don't seem to make any noise) by number 24 tram as it passed through before a treble of dud 172s came by. Snow Hill wasn't helping me at all so I plotted my next move to Tyseley but the next train heading that way wasn't calling there so instead I decided to head back to Moor Street just in case there was another 68 about. 172341 would take me to Moor Street but not before number 32 tram was added to the book. I needed to get out of here so I was more than pleased to see Moor Street once again, and even more pleased to see 68011 stabled in platform 3 and after a quick dash over there I was all so able to chalk off 82303 along with 168218 which had arrived into platform 2. I couldn't hang around though as the next service to Tyseley was due so a dash back across footbridge was required to hop on to see if I could grab anything out of the depot there - unfortunately I failed to note the number of the unit that was my haulage here. I've posted in TOPS with no response so far so if anyone reading this can help with what was on 2C50 1455 Kidderminster to Dorridge it would be appreciated :)

I'm about halfway through the day here so I will call this part 1 and take a break before returning later (hopefully) to complete the story of my day
 

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Sounds fun and has whet my appetite for my WM Day Ranger a fortnight today when I'll be doing more travelling and less spotting than you. I didn't know about the Stourbridge thing until I read the quirky trips thread, but I'm definitely doing that! Plus at least one trip on a 68-hauled/pushed train.
 

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Nice reading @The_Train - a shame that the interview wasn't a winner, but at least it seems to have prompted a good day out.

As far as trams are concerned, I think you really knew deep down they would be a necessity one day, and the trip to Birmingham has just hastened the inevitable. And at least it'll give you something more to do when you make it to Manchester - and Nottingham, and Sheffield, and Croyden, and Edinburgh, and... I agree very much with your sentiments regarding both Moor Street and Snow Hill - a little gem in the heart of a big city and a rather barren and uninspiring station respectively. I've never spent any time at the latter, although I guess next time I might have to if I want to make inroads into the Midland Metro fleet. :o

I couldn't believe your first ATW 158s - two of only four I need for sight, and working together - some people have all the luck! I'm also glad you enjoyed your quick return trip on the quirky 139s and that you got them both - you won't need to go back out that way again in a hurry.

Looking forward to part two, during which I suspect you'll cast your own judgement on the batcave among other things...
 

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Bad luck on wasting time for that interview, I've come across those types before where the manager is promoting someone internal but gets told by HR to advertise the job externally & do some interviews for the sake of appearances.

Anyhow sounded like a productive day in Birmingham with all those Turbostars entering your book :)
 

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Bad luck on wasting time for that interview, I've come across those types before where the manager is promoting someone internal but gets told by HR to advertise the job externally & do some interviews for the sake of appearances.

Anyhow sounded like a productive day in Birmingham with all those Turbostars entering your book :)

Funny you should say that as the bloke who did the interview was the head of HR which immediately rung alarm bells when he told me.

And yes, my day out afterwards certainly made the day worthwhile. To be honest the day out was put in place just in case the interview didn't go so well as it would help to put it out of my mind - and it certainly did that :)
 

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Nice reading @The_Train - a shame that the interview wasn't a winner, but at least it seems to have prompted a good day out.

As far as trams are concerned, I think you really knew deep down they would be a necessity one day, and the trip to Birmingham has just hastened the inevitable. And at least it'll give you something more to do when you make it to Manchester - and Nottingham, and Sheffield, and Croyden, and Edinburgh, and... I agree very much with your sentiments regarding both Moor Street and Snow Hill - a little gem in the heart of a big city and a rather barren and uninspiring station respectively. I've never spent any time at the latter, although I guess next time I might have to if I want to make inroads into the Midland Metro fleet. :o

I couldn't believe your first ATW 158s - two of only four I need for sight, and working together - some people have all the luck! I'm also glad you enjoyed your quick return trip on the quirky 139s and that you got them both - you won't need to go back out that way again in a hurry.

Looking forward to part two, during which I suspect you'll cast your own judgement on the batcave among other things...

I think you're right about the trams. It's easy to say you're not interested in them while roaming areas that don't actually have them but once they are there, it's too difficult to just ignore them. The tram dataset has been downloaded to my SpotLog now as well so there is no holding me back now ;)

The ATW 158s are quite handy with them generally working in pairs. Can eat away at those quite quickly. It is typical to hear of someone walking into units you've been hunting for a while though :E

As for the 139s, I enjoyed the little trip. It's a nice little novelty for us spotters/enthusiasts/geeks and clearly a good thing for the locals to have as both of my journeys were on a full unit
 

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Sounds fun and has whet my appetite for my WM Day Ranger a fortnight today when I'll be doing more travelling and less spotting than you. I didn't know about the Stourbridge thing until I read the quirky trips thread, but I'm definitely doing that! Plus at least one trip on a 68-hauled/pushed train.

The ranger will certainly be the better option for you as it is obviously covers a broader area and allows you to visit lots of places. The Stourbridge branch is well worth doing and yes it's the perfect opportunity to get some haulage behind a 68 out of Moor Street. I still intend to do this when I get around to my Reading trip in a couple of weeks
 

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West Midlands Daytripper - Wednesday 26th September 2018 (Part Two)

My arrival into Tyseley was met by 66620 sitting at Small Heath as it's wagons were loaded with ballast. Unfortunately the service was extremely busy and meant I was stood and unable to identify anything sat in the depot at Tyseley so it would be all down to what I could see on the way back out. However, my short stint at Tyseley did throw up another winning unit in the form of 168214 but other than that it was a couple of 172 duds as well as 68011, which I'd seen at Moor Street previously, powering it's DVT through the station which is always a nice sight and sound. I decided to jump on the next available service out of Tyseley as they don't seem all that regular and it turned out to be the first 172s I'd seen today as 172216 and 172217 provided the haulage back towards Smethwick. There was a mass of 170s stabled at the depot sidings but it's not all that easy to get the numbers from a moving train but I did manage to bag 150105 and 170113 as these were sat at the front and I could just about stretch my eyes to see them. We did pass another four 172s on route back to Smethwick but I think I'd exhausted these units for today as they all proved to be duds but the trip back did allow me to note another couple of the Midland Metro trams as 30 passed us by at the Jewellery Quarter and we passed 25 at The Hawthorns. I'd decided to head back to Smethwick so that I could grab a Walsall train which would allow me to pass Bescot yards but also in the hope that there may have been more ATW 158 action and I wasn't disappointed. Unfortunately the action was happening as I arrived and I only made it to platform 3 to see the unit leaving which allowed me to bag 158831 at the back but meant I missed the unit that was leading and I strongly suspect it would have been another winner.

It was the 1637 to Walsall that would take me on the next leg of my day and I climbed aboard 350256 with high hopes of a trip through Bescot being fruitful. As we crawled into New Street bang on time, I was able to nab 08805 which was stabled outside the station and was a nice little bonus. We were due a short layover at New Street but more got off there than got on so it created plenty of space on the train. Our 1657 departure time came and went without any movement and the PIS on the platform had amended our departure time to 1715 which wasn't the end of the world and the wait did allow me to chalk off 323217 which crept into platform 2 next to us. The announcement we received indicated that it was down to congestion outside New Street but concern started to grow a little bit when the revised departure time came and went with no action and the PIS board now just showing us as delayed. I decided to give it until 1730 and if we were still static I would admit defeat and leave the train but at 1729 my decision was made for me and the service was terminated at New Street. I decided to keep things simple now as I'd realised that I'd had nothing to eat all day so I headed up to the concourse to have a look around and grab some food, having decided that Bescot would have to wait for another day. New Street is an impressive place, having more resemblence to a shopping centre than a railway concourse although despite all of the food outlets I didn't find anything I fancied so I settled for a New Yorker baguette and decided to take a breather on the concourse before heading into the bat cave.

Fed and watered, I took a deep breath and headed for platforms 6 and 7 where I decided to plonk myself at the open end to at least enjoy a little bit of the remaining sunlight. 323212 was soon heading into the book but the first few 170s, which were all XC units, were nothing more than duds. 323204 certainly wasn't a dud and neither was 158823 as another of the Arriva Trains Wales units was chalked off as it ran a Birmingham International to Aberystwyth service with dud 158834. As I'd hoped New Street was churning up a few WMT 323s and I was making hay with 323210 and 323202 adding to my list of winners before more ATW 158s head into the book as 840 and 833 work a service from North Wales towards Birmingham International. 323215 and 323211 kept the 323 winners going before a XC 170 found its way into the book as 170522 crawled into the pretty bleak surroundings that are new Street station. 170636, which I seem to see everywhere I go, put in an appearance but it was my first WMT 170 that was my next success as 170505 made an appearance before 323242 kept up what had been a decent start to my time at New Street. Following on from 242 was 323241 and this was quickly followed by 170 successes from both operators as XC 170639 and WMT 170634 went into the book in quick succession with 634 arriving from Tyseley Depot ready to form a service to Shrewsbury
Class 170 170634 arrives into Birmingham New Street by The_Train

I was heading into my last hour of my time at New Street and the last remnants of the little natural light available were starting to fade but the 323s kept on rolling in and 323221 was to be the next winner and soon followed by 323213
Class 323 323221 departing Birmingham New Street by The_Train

It was a 153/170 combo that brought about my next winners with 153366 and 170513 being chalked off before a 10 minute period of duds descended upon me, including a very late running Pendolino which had been affected by signalling issues at Wembley earlier in the day
VTWC Pendolino 390011 at Birmingham New Street by The_Train

We were soon back onto winners street with yet more 323s heading into the book thanks to 205 and 201 before 323209 joined them. Time was getting on by now and darkness had enveloped an already dark place so it was becoming more and more difficult to ID the units using the platforms at either end of the station. However, there was still more winners to be had and I managed to bag 170502 and 170515 working as a pair before 158836 became the last of my ATW sightings for the day. This little run of winners wouldn't have been complete without a 323 and 323220 duly obliged. It was getting close to my departure from Birmingham so I decided to head over to platform 11 where my train to Tamworth was due, and was rewarded as I was able to knock off one final 170 for the day as XC 170398 arrived and was marked off accordingly. All that was left was to await the arrival of the glorious sight that is a HST set and there wasn't too long to wait as it arrived early with winner for sight and haulage 43301 leading 43303 into platform 11. I was excited to get back behind a HST power car as we would be going back to the 1990s when I last had the privilege and I wasn't disappointed. Not only was it good to feel their power it was nice to be sat in a comfy seat and to enjoy a nice smooth ride and that is exactly what the Mk3 coach I was sat in offered for the short trip to Tamworth. It was also nice to hear those squeaking noises that the HST Mk3 coaches offer, those more than anything I've experienced since my return to the hobby took me back to my younger days. The only downside was the fact that it was such a short journey and before I knew it the trip was over and we were arriving into Tamworth where I would connect to the final leg of my journey
XC HST power car 43303 departing Tamworth by The_Train

Unfortunately what I had not considered was how the signalling problems at Wembley earlier in the day that affected the Pendolinos at New Street would affect my journey home and my layover at Tamworth was extended thanks to these delays. This did give me chance to check out a couple of freight movements but it was dud 66511 working a Leeds to Southampton container train on the high level and from up high I thought I'd bagged a winner in the form of 70013 working containers from Southampton to Trafford Park but as @Skymonster saw this as part of the long line of static FLR 70s at Midland Road on Friday it must have been dud 70003 that was actually working it. There was also a mail train that ran through the fasts like a rocket and it is clear that speed and darkness do not help in sighting numbers. A 350 to Crewe arrived but as a pendolino was not far behind (it was actually sat at a signal outside the station) I decided to let that go so I could increase the variety of traction I've used today and a minute or so later, 390115 arrived to take me home.

There were a few freights due through Stafford when I arrived back so I decided to hang around but it was a couple of dud 66s followed by a Crossrail test which, after a bit of debate on the TOPS thread, we have realised was dud 345026. A Toton to Crewe engineering train was edging it's way towards me so I put my tiredness aside to await this and was duly rewarded when DRS 37606 and 37038 came growling through which was a perfect way to round off another decent day on the platform and on the rails.

Overall Summary

The West Midlands offered the perfect opportunity to eat away at the 170s, 172s and 323s along with some of the ATW 158 stock that were required for sight. It was also enjoyable to experience a day of train and station hopping and I'm sure that as I get deeper into clearing the book of sights I will be doing this more often and with more depth but for now it's back to the main focus for now which is getting out and ticking off as much I can for sight. Next up will be Reading in the next couple of weeks

Sight Summary

Winners: 84
Classes completed: 1 - 139s
Sub classes completed: N/A

Haulage Summary

Winners: 13
Total Mileage: 109 miles
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A
 
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Now also logging haulage, mileage, trams... Oh dear, oh dear - shacks next I guess, or miles per unit / loco? ;) Excellent second part to the story and I look forward to learning about your trip to Biscuit Town in due course.

BTW, the 08 you saw is based on Soho depot (where the 323s stable) and I've never found Tyseley particularly rewarding as some of the stock can be in the dip away from the mains - however it has a colourful 08 (3783 / 08616) that is obvious even if only glimpsed. Shame you didn't get to Bescott but it's likely there would have only been a small number of DBC 66s there.
 

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Excellent progress again train! I've fond memories of doing many of the same trips some 18 months ago. I agree on Tyseley, it's difficult to get anything whilst passing. I've found a wander down to the depot entrance can be a bit more productive, but not much more so than passing from the mainline.

I see things have escalated quickly as well regards haulage and such. You're a brave man taking on trams as well, I'd have thought youve enough on your plate already! I did the same with Metrolink in Manchester, purely to pass the time on my lunch breaks when the Northern units dried up, but I'm not sure I'd consider anywhere else!
 

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Now also logging haulage, mileage, trams... Oh dear, oh dear - shacks next I guess, or miles per unit / loco? ;) Excellent second part to the story and I look forward to learning about your trip to Biscuit Town in due course.

Just wait until I've devised a spreadsheet to put all of this information into ;)

BTW, the 08 you saw is based on Soho depot (where the 323s stable) and I've never found Tyseley particularly rewarding as some of the stock can be in the dip away from the mains - however it has a colourful 08 (3783 / 08616) that is obvious even if only glimpsed. Shame you didn't get to Bescott but it's likely there would have only been a small number of DBC 66s there.

Oh so that is soho, I wondered where it was and in equal measure I wondered what it was where the 08 was stabled. There didn't seem to be much there but I guess the 323s were all out at work when I went past.

Tyseley is probably a wasted trip but it's sometimes good to experience these things to find that out. As you say the way the depot dips and is lower than the main lines makes it pretty much impossible to get anything barring those few that are close by. GBRf locos wouldn't be so bad with their large numbers on the side but not much hope with 170s :lol: Can't say I saw an 08 there but then I was 110% focused on the 2 units at the front as I was determined to get at least a couple of numbers from my trip there :E
 

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Excellent progress again train! I've fond memories of doing many of the same trips some 18 months ago. I agree on Tyseley, it's difficult to get anything whilst passing. I've found a wander down to the depot entrance can be a bit more productive, but not much more so than passing from the mainline.

It was a worthwhile trip in the respect of me increasing my knowledge of places that are worth going to and it's safe to say that Tyseley goes on the 'to make no special effort to go there' list.

I see things have escalated quickly as well regards haulage and such. You're a brave man taking on trams as well, I'd have thought youve enough on your plate already! I did the same with Metrolink in Manchester, purely to pass the time on my lunch breaks when the Northern units dried up, but I'm not sure I'd consider anywhere else!

To be honest it will be a long time before I'm focusing on haulage, I just saw this outing as an opportunity to try out a different aspect to the hobby and thought I might as well keep a log of my haulage in readiness for if/when I may do it in the future. I can see why people do it once the numbers required for sight get less and less but I will focusing on clearing my sight book so normal service will resume for my next outing :D

As for trams, I think it will be the same approach for me as it has been for you. If I'm at a station where they are visible I will note them down, but I can't see me chasing them through Manchester, Sheffield or any other city that has them.
 

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Spreadsheets too?? Eek! :o

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As far as trams are concerned, you gotta do the 399s in Sheffield because they sneak out onto the national network. Like you said - slippery slope! ;)
 

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What service was the HST on?

It was 1E68 2003 Birmingham New Street (ex 1624 Exeter St Davids) to York

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C76266/2018/09/26/advanced

I've just checked Saturday 13th October (I think I've worked it out to be this day you're out and about) and it is a slightly different service in that it is 1E67 2003 Birmingham New Street (ex 1525 Plymouth) to Leeds but same time at Birmingham and still pathed as a HST

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C76259/2018/10/13/advanced
 

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One other thing I'd like to note about my journey around the West Midlands is that I travelled on 12 different services (counting the 139 as one journey) and the only time my ticket was checked was on the Stourbridge branch. My return ticket from Stafford to New Street never came out of my wallet and I only used the Daytripper ticket to get through the barriers at New Street and on the Stourbridge line.

Obviously some stations are barriered so people will need tickets but I imagine there were a few people enjoying free rides that day and if it's a regular occurrence must cost WMT some money.
 

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It was 1E68 2003 Birmingham New Street (ex 1624 Exeter St Davids) to York

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C76266/2018/09/26/advanced

I've just checked Saturday 13th October (I think I've worked it out to be this day you're out and about) and it is a slightly different service in that it is 1E67 2003 Birmingham New Street (ex 1525 Plymouth) to Leeds but same time at Birmingham and still pathed as a HST

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C76259/2018/10/13/advanced

Thanks. Got a -3 connection at Tamworth onto a Warrington train. Or could go back to Brum and then home that way. I'll see how the day goes.
 

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Funny you should say that as the bloke who did the interview was the head of HR which immediately rung alarm bells when he told me.

And yes, my day out afterwards certainly made the day worthwhile. To be honest the day out was put in place just in case the interview didn't go so well as it would help to put it out of my mind - and it certainly did that :)

In a prior job, I've been the note taker for similar 'pointless' interviews when the manager knew who they were hiring (and their interview was a 'wink wink nod nod' affair).

As for the lack of ticket checks, it doesn't surprise me, the barriers at Snow Hill/Moor Street are open more times than they are closed. A joke I've got with the New Street barriers is that they are in operation at 6am but never at 6pm
 

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In a prior job, I've been the note taker for similar 'pointless' interviews when the manager knew who they were hiring (and their interview was a 'wink wink nod nod' affair).

As for the lack of ticket checks, it doesn't surprise me, the barriers at Snow Hill/Moor Street are open more times than they are closed. A joke I've got with the New Street barriers is that they are in operation at 6am but never at 6pm

To be fair the barriers at Moor Street and New Street were closed and manned on each occasion I went near them but there are a lot of other stations that WMT cover that won't have barriers. Maybe their argument is that the majority of their passengers will either start or end their journey at one of the Birmingham stations which negates the need for ticket checks but I still found it strange and quite lazy
 

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I think you're right about the trams. It's easy to say you're not interested in them while roaming areas that don't actually have them but once they are there, it's too difficult to just ignore them. The tram dataset has been downloaded to my SpotLog now as well so there is no holding me back now ;)

Wait until you go looking for the Croydon Tramlink ones ;)

I have a haulage Log spreadsheet ... works well too ;)
 

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Wait until you go looking for the Croydon Tramlink ones ;)

I have a haulage Log spreadsheet ... works well too ;)

Will be a while before I'm racing down the streets of Croydon chasing trams :lol:

I'm in the planning stage with my spreadsheet at the moment. I'm basically wanting a database where I can have a one-stop shop for seeing what I've seen, photographed, enjoyed haulage on etc
 

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Guys, save starting a new thread I thought I'd just ask you hardy folks who follow my outings your thoughts on whether train logger is worth spending money on? I like SpotLog for ease of use but I find it difficult to see what locos/units are allocated to which TOC/FOC and therefore difficult to see the inroads I'm making by operator. Train logger appears to offer this if I'm reading it right
 

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Will be a while before I'm racing down the streets of Croydon chasing trams :lol:

I'm in the planning stage with my spreadsheet at the moment. I'm basically wanting a database where I can have a one-stop shop for seeing what I've seen, photographed, enjoyed haulage on etc

Mine calculates the miles behind each item of traction and does summaries of years etc. I could add a column for photographed I guess.
 

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Guys, save starting a new thread I thought I'd just ask you hardy folks who follow my outings your thoughts on whether train logger is worth spending money on? I like SpotLog for ease of use but I find it difficult to see what locos/units are allocated to which TOC/FOC and therefore difficult to see the inroads I'm making by operator. Train logger appears to offer this if I'm reading it right

I can ask on the Spotlog forum is the TOC can be added to the screen of the class.
 

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I can ask on the Spotlog forum is the TOC can be added to the screen of the class.

The information is there, it's just that you have to drill into each number to get to it. I'm looking for an easy way to see how many ATW 158s (as an example) I've seen but at the moment I can only easily see how many 158s I've seen as a whole
 

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I would heartily recommend Trainlogger. You can see progress by class or TOC/FOC, and it's very user-friendly. I know you record track machines as well, train, which Trainlogger doesn't has, they house that oseparaterate website, but it's still well worth the annual fee.

An example of how you can have them broken down:

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You would have to click into ATW to then see how many of their 158s you'd got, but from homepage to there is just two clicks.
 
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Guys, save starting a new thread I thought I'd just ask you hardy folks who follow my outings your thoughts on whether train logger is worth spending money on? I like SpotLog for ease of use but I find it difficult to see what locos/units are allocated to which TOC/FOC and therefore difficult to see the inroads I'm making by operator. Train logger appears to offer this if I'm reading it right
I've been playing with trainlogger off and on for the last couple of weeks now, to the point where I have entered more than 2,000 sightings into it - with still quite a lot more to go! The free version works well but is a little basic. Entering some data is a bit of a pain for those of us who have seen things now gone (scrapped, sold abroad) or renumbered - these do not appear in the free lists, but they can still be entered. And of course the free version does not list needs by TOC, only by class - and you have to pay if you want to log haulage or upload photos. The paid version removes these issues. Entering current stuff is easy, intuitive and quick though - and it has uncovered a few minor errors I've made in the lists I keep. So I am quite happy with trainlogger so far while excepting the limitations of the free version, and I am going to enter the rest of my data before I decide whether to upgrade or not. My main recommendation is: make a decision before you go too much further, because the more numbers you have to transfer the more tedious entering them all becomes.
 

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Thanks for the help with trainlogger guys, I think I'm going to pay the £2.50 for a month so that I can see what the subscription service offers and then decide from there
 
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