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D1511

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Saturday 6th August 1983

One of my favourite 47 days ever. For context I probably needed about seventy-odd 47s at this time, and nearly a tenth of them turned up for me that day!

I also think it was my longest run of consecutive 47s with no train heating......and it was a beautiful warm summer day in the west country! 40 odd years on and I can still remember it pretty well....


1C04 00.50 Paddington - Milford Haven 47477 xe BS Paddington - Swansea
2C06 07.37 Cardiff C - Milford Haven 47061 xo CF Cardiff C - Bridgend
1B30 08.55 Cardiff C - Paignton 47248 xos CF Cardiff C - Newport
1B38 08.00 Swansea - Penzance 47328 xos TO Newport - Bristol TM
1V69 07.28 Leeds - Newquay 47282 xos BR Bristol TM - Exeter St D
1V73 09.20 Liverpool LS - Paignton 47238 xos BR Exeter St D - Dawlish
1C44 13.00 Paignton - Swansea 47079 xi CF Dawlish - Exeter St D
1M54 15.05 Paignton - Wolverhampton 47238 xos BR Exeter St D - Bristol TM (via WSM)
1M54 15.05 Paignton - Wolverhampton 47080 xi CF Bristol TM - Gloucester
1V21 18.20 Birmingham NS - Swansea 47334 xos BS Gloucester - Newport
1S19 21.24 Bristol TM - Glasgow & Edinburgh 50003 xe LA Bristol Parkway - Birmingham NS
1S19 21.24 Bristol TM - Glasgow & Edinburgh 47451 xe CD Birmingham NS - Manchester V (via Chester, Warrington)


Monday 6th August 1984

2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47447 xe CD Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1M47 17.20 Glasgow C - Birmingham NS 86257 xe WN Glasgow C - Carstairs
1Z83 12.05 Bristol TM - Edinburgh 37139 xo ML Carstairs - Edinburgh
 
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45048 Bristol TM-Paignton (1V56 2231 Bradford-Paignton)
45048 Paignton-Exeter (1E60 1005 Paignton-Leeds)
45017 Exeter-Plymouth (1V64 0741 Derby-Penzance)
45059 Plymouth-Sheffield (1E18 1220 Newquay-Leeds)
HST Sheffield-Leicester
46025 Leicester-Chesterfield (1E40 1725 Paignton-York)

Tuesday 6th August 1985

45111 Luton-Leicester (1P06 0423 St.Pancras-Leicester)
45104 Leicester-Leeds (1E05 0740 Leicester-Leeds)
DMU Leeds-Huddersfield
47408 Huddersfield-York (1E08 0921 Bangor-Newcastle)
45123 York-Leeds (1M26 1255 Scarborough-Bangor)
45060 Leeds-Newcastle (1E99 1114 Bangor-Newcastle)
45107 Newcastle-Huddersfield (1M19 1750 Newcastle-Liverpool)
47106 Huddersfield-Leeds (1E93 1703 Holyhead-York)
31441 Leeds-Selby (2E70 1935 Lancaster-Hull)
DMU Selby-Doncaster
DMU Doncaster-Sheffield
45104 Sheffield-Bedford (1M10 2352 Sheffield-St.Pancras)

Wednesday 6th August 1986

47563 Luton-Bedford (1F10 0427 St.Pancras-Leicester)
45029 Bedford-Derby (1P07 0606 Bedford-Derby)
HST Derby-York
45135 York-Leeds (1009 0812 Newcastle-Poole)
45115 Leeds-Huddersfield (1M58 0820 Newcastle-Llandudno)
45128 Huddersfield-Scarborough (1E79 1003 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45128 Scarborough-Dewsbury (1M75 1353 Scarborough-Liverpool)
45112 Dewsbury-York (1E74 1403 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45113 York-Leeds (1M77 1553 Scarborough-Liverpool)
47532 Leeds-York (1E63 1040 Poole-Newcastle)
45112 York-Scarborough (2P20 1810 York-Scarborough)
45112 Scarborough-Leeds (1M80 1958 Scarborough-Holyhead)
DMU Leeds-Sheffield)
45106 Sheffield-Luton (1M10 2355 Sheffield-St.Pancras)
 

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47434 0550 Paddington-Manchester Picc (Oxford-Birmingham NS)
86258 0550 ditto (Birmingham NS-Wolverhampton)
25196 + 25235 0745 Euston-Aberystwyth (Wolverhampton-Wellington)
87026 1130 Wolverhampton-Euston (to Birmingham NS)
47477 0950 Newcastle-Poole (Birmingham NS-Reading)
 

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Back in 78 if the loco had wheels I probably required it! Half the day red-penning 45/1s before things started to improve in the afternoon with three required Class 40s.

47097 York-Sheffield (0700 Newcastle-Poole)
45118 Sheffield-Chesterfield (0913 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45045 Chesterfield-Sheffield (0655 Gloucester-Leeds)
31151 Sheffield-Derby (0944 Leeds- Weston SM)
45147 Derby-Loughborough (1207 Derby-St Pancras)
45123 Loughborough-Derby (1012 St Pancras-Derby)
45127 Derby-Leicester (1210 Sheffield-St Pancras)
47535 Leicester-Nottingham (1201 St Pancras-Sheffield)
20172+20192 Nottingham-Derby (1302 Skegness-Derby)
40084 Derby-Sheffield (1005 Portsmouth-Newcastle) SAGA
45138 Sheffield-Rotherham (1551 Nottingham-Carlisle)
47034 Rotherham-Sheffield (1639 Leeds-Bristol TM)
40036 Sheffield-Leeds (1745 Sheffield-Leeds)
40187 Leeds-York (1710 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)

Sunday 9th September 1979

An unexpected triple header with all locos taking power. I’m not sure where the 25s worked from, presumably Newcastle.

46046 York-Darlington (1040 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)
55011 Darlington-Doncaster (1450 Newcastle-Doncaster)
43098+43099 Doncaster-Leeds (1450 Kings Cross-Leeds)
47422 Leeds-Darlington (1500 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)
25032+25188+40080 Darlington-York (1700 Edinburgh-Liverpool LS)
Apologies for the belated response but 40084 was 1E12 10.02 Folkestone - Newcastle. The ex Portsmouth service (which terminated Sheffield) ceased to run on the 2nd September.
 

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87030 Euston-Rugby (1D58 0850 Euston-Holyhead)
31149+31304 Rugby-Bletchley (1A06 0800 Wolverhampton-Euston)
EMU Bletchley-Rugby
86314 Rugby-Nuneaton (1G28 1200 Euston-Wolverhampton)
45069 Nuneaton-Birmingham NS (1G28)
45149 Birmingham NS-Nuneaston (1A23 1500 Wolverhampton-Euston)
86243 Nuneaton-Euston (1A23)
50050 Paddington-Westbury (1D76 1945 Paddington-Plymouth)
33032 Westbury-Yeovil PM (2O62 2128 Westbury-Weymouth)

Wednesday 7th August 1985

45122 Bedford-Leicester (1P06 0423 St.Pancras-Leicester)
45112 Leicester-Leeds (1E05 0740 Leicester-Leeds)
47424 Leeds-York (1E06 0905 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45146 York-Huddersfield (1M63 1055 Scarborough-Holyhead)
45117 Huddersfield-York (1E98 1205 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45076 York-Liverpool (1M75 1355 Scarborough-Liverpool)
45020 Liverpool-Huyton (2J22 1905 Liverpool-Manchester)Fail
47290 Huyton-Rainhill (2J22)
45076 Rainhill-York (1E89 2044 Liverpool-York)

Thursday 7th August 1986

45142 Luton-Leicester (1F10 0427 St.Pancras-Leicester)
31285 Leicester-Derby (1P07 0606 Bedford-Derby)
HST Derby-York
45145 York-Leeds (1O09 0812 Newcastle-Poole)
45131 Leeds-Dewsbury (1M58 0820 Newcastle-Llandudno)
45133 Dewsbury-York (1E82 0903 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45124 York-Scarborough (1E82)
45124 Scarborough-Dewsbury (1M26 1253 Scarborough-Bangor)
45148 Dewsbury-York (1E99 1112 Bangor-Newcastle)
45133 York-Scarborough (1E74 1403 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45133 Scarborough-York (1M79 1753 Scarborough-Liverpool)
45107 York-Darlington (1E91 0933 Penzance-Newcastle)
HST Darlington-York
45103 York-Leeds (1M80 1958 Scarborough-Holy head)
DMU Leeds-Sheffield
45110 Sheffield-Luton (1M10 2355 Sheffield-St.Pancras)
 

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Apologies for the belated response but 40084 was 1E12 10.02 Folkestone - Newcastle. The ex Portsmouth service (which terminated Sheffield) ceased to run on the 2nd September.
Thanks for the correction. I always found that it was tricky to identify this train correctly with its different originating points and that the train was only listed in the working timetable.
 

D1537

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No moves book for this day, however photos show I had these (at least) on a North Wales leap. Moves are a guess.
47539 Chester-somewhere (Prestatyn?)
40172 somewhere-Chester
40192 Chester-somewhere (Rhyl?)
47197 somewhere-Llandudno
40128 Llandudno-Chester
????? Chester-Crewe
40063 Crewe-Chester
 

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D1511

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2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47371 xos HM Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1O47 17.00 Glasgow QS - Edinburgh 47706 xeh HA Glasgow QS - Haymarket
1Z83 12.05 Bristol TM - Edinburgh 47333 xos TO Haymarket - Edinburgh
 

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1S51 15.10 Scarborough - Glasgow QS 37025 xb ED Edinburgh - Glasgow QS
1V56 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 86207 xe WN Glasgow C - Preston

Wednesday 8th August 1984

2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47018 xb HA Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1A27 11.35 Glasgow C - Stranraer 47430 xd GD Glasgow C - Ayr
1M35 15.10 Glasgow C - London Euston 87014 ae WN Glasgow C - Carlisle
1Z83 13.50 Birmingham NS - Edinburgh 81003 xe GW Carlisle - Carstairs
1Z83 13.50 Birmingham NS - Edinburgh 37056 xo ML Carstairs - Edinburgh
 
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45107 York-Huddersfield (1M26 1255 Scarborough-Bangor)
45126 Huddersfield-York (1E74 1405 Liverpool-Scarborough)
47418 York-Darlington (1E91 0855 Penzance-Newcastle)
45117 Darlington-Leeds (1M19 1750 Newcastle-Liverpool)
45109 Leeds-York (1E93 1703 Holyhead-York)

Friday 8th August 1986

45139 Luton-Leicester (1F10 0427 St.Pancras-Leicester)
47609 Leicester-Derby (1P07 0606 Bedford-Derby)
HST Derby-York
45044 York-Scarborough (1E00 0703 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45044 Scarborough-Man Vic (1M63 1053 Scarborough-Holyhead)
45124 Man Vic-Dewsbury (1E99 1112 Bangor-Newcastle)
45114 Dewsbury-Huddersfield (1M26 1253 Scarborough-Bangor)
45112 Huddersfield-York (1E74 1403 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45133 York-Scarborough (1E74)
45133 Scarborough-Huddersfield (1M79 1753 Scarborough-Liverpool)
DMU Huddersfield-Dewsbury
45103 Dewsbury-Huddersfield (1M19 1750 Newcastle-Liverpool)
45044 Huddersfield-York (1E93 1703 Holyhead-York)
47438 York-Leeds (1M41 2225 York-Shrewsbury)
45107 Leeds-Birmingham NS (1V27 2239 Bradford-Paignton)
 

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Saturday 8th August 1981

1S51 15.10 Scarborough - Glasgow QS 37025 xb ED Edinburgh - Glasgow QS
1V56 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 86207 xe WN Glasgow C - Preston

Wednesday 8th August 1984

2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47018 xb HA Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1A27 11.35 Glasgow C - Stranraer 47430 xd GD Glasgow C - Ayr
1M35 15.10 Glasgow C - London Euston 87014 xe WN Glasgow C - Carlisle
1Z83 13.50 Birmingham NS - Edinburgh 81003 xe GW Carlisle - Carstairs
1Z83 13.50 Birmingham NS - Edinburgh 37056 xo ML Carstairs - Edinburgh
87014 ae WN, not dual brakes.
 

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45107 York-Scarborough (1E00 0705 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45107 Scarborough-Dewsbury (1M63 1055 Scarborough-Holyhead)
45126 Dewsbury-York (1E08 0921 Bangor-Newcastle)
45123 York-Scarborough (1E98 1205 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45123 Scarborough-Huddersfield (1M77 1553 Scarborough-Liverpool)
47441 Huddersfield-Dewsbury (1E16 1518 Llandudno-York)
45140 Dewsbury-Huddersfield (1M32 1620 Newcastle-Liverpool)
DMU Huddersfield-Leeds
45019 Leeds-Huddersfield (1M19 1750 Newcastle-Liverpool)
45107 Huddersfield-York (1E93 1703 Holyhead-York)
47422 York-Leeds (1M41 2241 York-Shrewsbury)
45138 Leeds-Birmingham NS (1V56 2240 Bradford-Paignton)

Saturday 9th August 1986

47603 Birmingham NS-Leeds (1E58 0005 Plymouth-York)
45145 Leeds-Huddersfield (1M56 0650 York-Liverpool)
45103 Huddersfield-York (1E00 0703 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45104 York-Scarborough (1E27 0606 Bedford-Scarborough)
45104 Scarborough-Sheffield (1M11 1220 Scarborough-Leicester)
45107 Sheffield-York (1E60 0935 Tenby-York)
45146 York-Scarborough (2P20 1810 York-Scarborough)
45146 Scarborough-York (1M80 1958 Scarborough-Holyhead)
HST York-Doncaster
31443 Doncaster-Sheffield (1M57 2025 Hull-Manchester)
45111 Sheffield-St.Pancras (1M10 2355 Sheffield-St.Pancras)

Sunday 10th August 1986

33011 Waterloo-Yeovil Jn (1V09 0910 Waterloo-Exeter)
 

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47439 0600 Derby-Poole (Oxford-Reading)
47076 1440 Poole-Liverpool LS (Reading-Oxford)

The 0600 Derby-Poole was more productive the next couple of days....
 

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2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47121 xb CF Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1M35 15.10 Glasgow C - London Euston 87004 ae WN Glasgow C - Carlisle
1Z83 13.50 Birmingham NS - Edinburgh 86234 xe WN Carlisle - Carstairs
1Z83 13.50 Birmingham NS - Edinburgh 47106 xb CF Carstairs - Edinburgh
 

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No moves book for this day, however photos show I had these (at least) on a North Wales leap. Moves are a guess.
47539 Chester-somewhere (Prestatyn?)
40172 somewhere-Chester
40192 Chester-somewhere (Rhyl?)
47197 somewhere-Llandudno
40128 Llandudno-Chester
????? Chester-Crewe
40063 Crewe-Chester
Today being the nearest Saturday I thought this conundrum beat doing a crossword puzzle.

40172 was 09.20 Holyhead - Crewe arriving Chester 11.13
40192 was 10.45 Man Vic - Holyhead departing Chester 11.57. You may have had this to Prestatyn, Rhyl, Colwyn Bay or LJ. (It stopped at every bus stop too but 47197 below didn't)
47197 09.00 York - Llandudno from Prestatyn or Rhyl or Colwyn Bay or LJ.
40128 13.53 Llandudno - York to Chester
????? Chester - Crewe was the 15.25 DMU
40085 14.00 Euston - Holyhead

The only loco I can't pin down is 47539. This worked the 20.59 Holyhead to Crewe but I can't say which morning service took it to Holyhead.

HTH
 
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D1537

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Today being the nearest Saturday I thought this conundrum beat doing a crossword puzzle.

40172 was 09.20 Holyhead - Crewe arriving Chester 11.13
40192 was 10.45 Man Vic - Holyhead departing Chester 11.57. You may have had this to Prestatyn, Rhyl, Colwyn Bay or LJ. (It stopped at every bus stop too but 47197 below didn't)
47197 09.00 York - Llandudno from Prestatyn or Rhyl or Colwyn Bay or LJ.
40128 13.53 Llandudno - York to Chester
????? Chester - Crewe was the 15.25 DMU
40085 14.00 Euston - Holyhead

The only loco I can't pin down is 47539. This worked the 20.59 Holyhead to Crewe but I can't say which morning service took it to Holyhead.

HTH
Haha, thanks. I do have a faint recollection that 40172 was Prestatyn but I am clueless about the 40192/47197 split.
 

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47359
0600 Derby-Poole (Oxford-Reading)
50023 1610 Paddington-Oxford (from Reading)

It was always a delight to get a required loco on the way to work, although what any passengers joining the train at Derby at 0600 thought of their non-heat loco (assuming it worked all the way) is not recorded....
 

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45150 Birmingham NS-Leeds (1E43 2100 Penzance-Leeds)
45107 Leeds-Huddersfield (1M56 0650 York-Liverpool)
45019 Huddersfield-Leeds (1E00 0705 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45150 Leeds-Derby (1V81 0917 Leeds-Penzance)
45141 Derby-Bristol TM (1V81)
33048 Bristol TM-Westbury (1O81 1405 Bristol-Portsmouth)
DMU Westbury-Yeovil PM
 

D1537

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310068 Coventry-B'ham NS
47613 1V59 B'ham NS-Cheltenham
47293 1E67 Cheltenham-Derby
47316 1M26 Derby-Stockport
87030 1A77 Stockport-Rugby
 

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2L?? 11.17 Edinburgh - Dundee 27018 vb HA Edinburgh - Kirkcaldy
2G?? 11.21 Dundee - Edinburgh 27037 xb HA Kirkcaldy - Edinburgh
2L?? 13.17 Edinburgh - Dundee 27040 xb HA Edinburgh - Kirkcaldy
2G?? 13.21 Dundee - Edinburgh 27018 vb HA Kirkcaldy - Edinburgh
2L?? 15.17 Edinburgh - Dundee 27109 xb ED Edinburgh - Kirkcaldy
2G?? 15.21 Dundee - Edinburgh 27040 xb HA Kirkcaldy - Edinburgh
1E21 17.16 Edinburgh - Newcastle 47002 xb HA Edinburgh - Berwick
1S15 15.53 Carlisle - Edinburgh 46047 xd GD Berwick - Edinburgh
1E25 20.25 Edinburgh - London KX 40052 xb HM Edinburgh - Dunbar

Apologies for the missing Dundee service headcodes which are absent from my notebook for some reason. I'll need to edit this post once I've checked my 1H82.
 

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2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 37149 xo ED Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1O47 17.00 Glasgow QS - Edinburgh 47707 xeh HA Glasgow QS - Edinburgh
2J20 17.55 Edinburgh - Dunbar 47292 xos IM Edinburgh - Dunbar (this was an inward Carstairs portion that ran forward to Dunbar that day......no explanation in my notebook I'm afraid)
1S15 17.16 Newcastle - Edinburgh 47104 xb IM Dunbar - Edinburgh
 

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Whilst having no-heat locos on the Nottingham-Manchester axis was very nice, they were often awkward to get to from the West Midlands!

86253 1P02 Coventry-B'ham NS
43008+43020 1E10 B'ham NS-Derby
150133 Derby-Nottingham
47452 1M87 Nottingham-Sheffield
47110 1M87 Sheffield-Stockport
47277 1M51 Stockport-Nottingham

All fine, then the afternoon Blackpool diagram, supposed to be 47321, was a 31/4. Thanks.

150117 Nottingham-Derby
150001 Derby-B'ham NS
47568 1O09 B'ham NS-Oxford
47615 1M40 Oxford-Coventry
 

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Ouch! Anything at all but one of those!
Apparently said 31/4 had jacked on the Norwich-Liverpool that morning and been replaced by 47321, then was hammered back together again to do the Blackpool ... only to jack again at Sheffield on the way back and be replaced by ... 47321, which had done a Liverpool-Sheffield in the meantime.
 

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