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Sunday 17th July 1977

A spotting trip taking in my only visit to Wath.

55004 York-Doncaster (0838 Newcastle-Kings Cross)
DMU Sheffield-Worksop
DMU Worksop-Sheffield
47033 Sheffield-York (1256 Paignton-York)

Tuesday 17th July 1979

47543 York-Leeds (1618 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
40096 Leeds-York (1805 Liverpool LS-York)

Thursday 17th July 1980

Having had 40024 out of Scarborough, I had a pair of 25s on the Poole-Newcastle which must have been running 2 hours late. The evening was nicely finished off with 40058 back to York from Darlington.

E50573+50584 York-Scarborough (1713 Bradford Exchange-Scarborough)
40024 Scarborough-York (1925 Scarborough-Wakefield Westgate)
25249+25279 York-Darlington (1135 Poole-Newcastle)
40058 Darlington-York (2030 Newcastle-Kings Cross)

Friday 17th July 1981

40150 York-Durham (1135 Poole-Newcastle)
55014 Durham-York (2100 Newcastle-Kings Cross)
 
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25249+25279 York-Darlington (1135 Poole-Newcastle)
Dreadful! I remember hearing about a rat working through to Newcastle on a service from Liverpool, but to get a pair down this stretch of the ECML sounds like a mega rarity.

I only ever had rats into Newcastle following unit failures on Tyne Valley services. Details up thread.
 

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Dreadful! I remember hearing about a rat working through to Newcastle on a service from Liverpool, but to get a pair down this stretch of the ECML sounds like a mega rarity.

I only ever had rats into Newcastle following unit failures on Tyne Valley services. Details up thread.
During this period Class 25s were quite rare to be found working passenger services north of York, however I did experience another pair in the up direction during September 79.
 

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Wednesday 18th July 1979

Deja vu? Yes, travelling on the same two trains with the same two locomotives on consecutive days.

47543 York-Leeds (1618 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
40096 Leeds-York (1805 Liverpool LS-York)

Friday 18th July 1980

31264 York-Church Fenton (1902 Scarborough-Sheffield)
E50545+50566 Church Fenton-Micklefield (1935 Scarborough-Huddersfield)
31168 Micklefield-Leeds (2039 Hull-Leeds)
47520 Leeds-York (2040 Liverpool LS-York)

Saturday 18th July 1981

I must have known that Deltic 9 was working the 1112 KX-Scarborough because after having Eastfield’s 37157 on the Newcastle-Yarmouth I wouldn’t have taken 47415 blind to Grantham. This service was routed to Scarborough via Goole, then on towards Hull, before taking the Anlaby curve, then on through Beverley, Bridlington and on to its final destination.

37157 York-Doncaster (0835 Newcastle-Yarmouth)
47415 Doncaster-Grantham (0847 Bridlington-Kings Cross)
55009 Grantham-Scarborough via Bridlington (1125 Kings Cross-Scarborough)
55009 Scarborough-York (1705 Scarborough-Kings Cross)
55017 York-Kings Cross (1705 Scarborough-Kings Cross)
55002 Kings Cross-Edinburgh (2230 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
via Stockton & Carlisle
 

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Saturday 19th July 1975

A spotting trip to Reading and then onto Paddington in search of Westerns. This took in my first visit to Old Oak Common.

DMU York-Sheffield (0717 York-Sheffield)
45017 Sheffield-Birmingham NS (0700 Bradford Exchange-Penzance)
47056 Birmingham-Reading (0702 Newcastle-Poole)
47494 Reading-Paddington (1145 Weston super Mare-Paddington)
EMU Queens Park-Willesden Jnc
EMU Willesden Jnc-Queens Park
47482 Paddington-Birmingham NS (1605 Paddington-Birmingham NS)
45010 Birmingham NS-York (1623 Weston super Mare-York)

Thursday 19th July 1979

46022 York-Stalybridge (0710 York-Liverpool LS)
M50354 Stalybridge-Stockport (0852 Stalybridge-Stockport)
86213 Stockport-Crewe (0912 Manchester Pic-Euston)
40097 Crewe-Chester (1118 Crewe-Holyhead)
40075 Chester-Llandudno Jnc (1105 Manchester Vic-Holyhead)
40119 Llandudno Jnc-Crewe (1257 Holyhead-Euston)
47447 Crewe-Chester (1508 Crewe-Holyhead)
M50395+51194 Chester-Helsby (1345 Holyhead-Manchester Vic)
40012 Helsby-Chester (1540 Manchester Vic-Bangor)
47492 Chester-Manchester Vic (1503 Holyhead-Manchester Vic)
46053 Manchester Vic-York (1805 Liverpool LS-York)

Saturday 19th July 1980

By early afternoon I was at Leeds having picked up only one required class 40. I decided to head back to York in the hope of getting the required 40046 on a Scarborough-Glasgow relief train. On my arrival at York 40046 was preparing to run round its train, the only problem was that the train was standing in the middle road. It’s only booked station stop before Edinburgh was Newcastle. Fortunately for me 55017 was waiting to re-engine the late running 0725 Plymouth-Edinburgh service so a plan was quickly hatched to take No17 to Newcastle and 40046 forward to Edinburgh. The next issue was which train would be ready to leave first because both 40046 and 55017 were now waiting to leave for the north. Deltic 17 got the road first and off we headed towards our next stop, Darlington. Depending on how each loco performed there was a chance that 40046 could pass me at Darlington. Deltic 17 performed well on its run to Darlington however it was an anxious wait at the station as passengers got off and on the train. 40046 didn’t get the chance to pass the Deltic here and so I arrived into Newcastle knowing my plan was working. A few minutes after Deltic 17 had left 40046 arrived and so I headed off towards Edinburgh. At Belford just south of Berwick the train came to stand and then after a short period it slowly passed Deltic 17 and it’s train which had been declared a failure after an engine room fire. My plan could have so easily gone wrong had Deltic 17 failed earlier on its journey.

47411 York-Leeds (0710 York-Liverpool LS)
40121 Leeds-Manchester Vic (0752 Leeds-Llandudno)
40070 Manchester Vic-York (0855 Blackpool N-Newcastle)
40179 York-Leeds (1300 Scarborough-Manchester Vic)
E50639+50646+51431+51499 Leeds-York (1445 Leeds-Scarborough)
55017 York-Newcastle (0725 Plymouth-Edinburgh)
40046 Newcastle-Edinburgh (1420 Scarborough-Glasgow QS) Relief
55002 Edinburgh-York (1630 Aberdeen-Leeds)

Sunday 19th July 1981

This was the first day of my 1981 14 day All Line Rover and as it was to be the last year of Deltic operation I decided to focus my time with Deltics. I took No.8 to Grantham with the intention of returning to York on the 1605 from KX. My ALR was off to a dodgy start; Finsbury Park had obviously run out of available Deltics which was quite unusual for a Sunday during this period. I headed south and filled my time with a couple of 31s from Peterborough and March before heading into London for the northbound overnight services.

55013 Edinburgh-York via Stockton (1125 Edinburgh-Plymouth)
55008 York-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
47006 Grantham-Peterborough (1629 Sheffield-Harwich PQ)
31418 Peterborough-March (1640 Birmingham NS-Norwich)
31321 March-Peterborough (1826 Norwich-Birmingham NS)
55017 Peterborough-Kings Cross (1913 York-Kings Cross)
 

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Friday 20th July 1979

45076 York-Leeds (2027 York-Liverpool LS)
E51961+51962+51980 Leeds-Cross Gates (2114 Leeds-Hull)
31410 Cross Gates-York (2039 Hull-Leeds)
47210 Leeds-Stockport (2150 York-Shrewsbury)

Sunday 20th July 1980

E50563+50582+50601 York-Scarborough (1543 York-Scarborough)
25166+25169 Scarborough-York (1800 Scarborough-Shrewsbury) Return ADEX

Monday 20th July 1981

I can’t remember why I ended up with a 31 to Doncaster on the 0110 KX-Leeds, according to Napier Chronicles the 2355 KX-Edinburgh and 0002 KX-Newcastle were both Deltics heading out of KX that night. My intention was to head into Scotland so I joined Deltic 8 at Peterborough and travelled with it all the way to Aberdeen. I still regret not covering this service from KX because it was my best chance of travelling KX to Aberdeen throughout with a Deltic.

31411 Kings Cross-Doncaster (0110 Kings Cross-Leeds)
55013 Doncaster-Peterborough (2035 Aberdeen-Kings Cross)
55008 Peterborough-Aberdeen (0550 Kings Cross-Aberdeen)
55008 Aberdeen-Edinburgh (1630 Aberdeen-Leeds)
55017 Edinburgh-Kings Cross (2025 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
 

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Saturday 21st July 1979

Day one of my 1979 ALR was a partial success having a couple of required 40s in North Wales. With no other 40s about I headed off to Derby with a 25 before going onto Cheltenham to pick up the overnight Bristol-Glasgow. This heavily loaded train was booked to be banked up the Lickey by a pair of 37s.

86242 Stockport-Crewe (2150 York-Shrewsbury)
85003 Crewe-Preston (2215 Euston-Glasgow C)
81003 Preston-Wigan NW (2355 Glasgow C-Bristol TM)
81021 Wigan NW-Crewe (2345 Edinburgh-Bristol TM)
47509 Crewe-Bangor (0605 Crewe-Holyhead)
M50409+51194 Bangor-Llandudno (0729 Holyhead-Llandudno)
40015 Llandudno-Llandudno Jnc (0900 Llandudno-York)
47447 Llandudno Jnc-Colwyn Bay (0937 Llandudno-Birmingham NS)
40107 Colwyn Bay-Chester (0942 Llandudno-Manchester Vic)
40055 Chester-Llandudno Jnc (1105 Manchester Vic-Holyhead)
25286 Llandudno Jnc-Derby (1300 Llandudno-Nottingham)
25249+25321 Derby-Spondon (1425 Blackpool N-Leicester)
M50680+50709 Spondon-Derby (1639 Lincoln St Marks-Crewe)
47119 Derby-Birmingham NS (1639 Leeds-Bristol TM)
25032+25203 Birmingham NS-Walsall (1430 Yarmouth-Walsall)
312203 Walsall-Birmingham NS (1958 Walsall-Birmingham NS)
47515 Birmingham NS-Gloucester (1613 Newcastle-Cardiff C)
W50647+50705 Gloucester-Cheltenham (2202 Gloucester-Cheltenham)
47194 Cheltenham-Birmingham NS (2130 Bristol TM-Glasgow C)
37217+37231 Bromsgrove-Blackwell Banking Locomotives (2130 Bristol TM-Glasgow C)

Monday 21st July 1980

I wasted my bus fare today! I should’ve stayed with 40118 to Wakefield instead of having the surprising and unwanted Duff on the 2039 Hull-Leeds

47171 York-Darlington (1605 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)
43060+43068 Darlington-York (1700 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
40118 York-Castleford (1925 Scarborough-Wakefield Westgate)
Bus Castleford-Garforth
47097 Garforth-Leeds (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E50545+50554+50573+50575 Leeds-York (2200 Leeds-York)

Tuesday 21st July 1981

50043 Waterloo-Basingstoke (0650 Waterloo-Exeter St Davids)
47334 Basingstoke-Reading (0625 Poole-Birmingham NS)
50022 Reading-Paddington (0747 Oxford-Paddington)
55017 Kings Cross-Grantham (0940 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
55008 Grantham-Kings Cross (0930 Durham-Kings Cross)
55016 Kings Cross-Retford (1403 Kings Cross-York)
55011 Retford-Kings Cross (1550 York-Kings Cross)
312711 Kings Cross-Stevenage (2006 Kings Cross-Royston)
55009 Stevenage-Kings Cross (1745 Cleethorpes-Kings Cross)
55014 Kings Cross-Leeds (2300 Kings Cross-Bradford Exchange)
via Wakefield Kirkgate
 

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Saturday 22nd July 1978

My last family holiday to Bournemouth with Mum & Dad; I didn’t see much of them that week or Bournemouth come to think of it. I had a Southern Region Rail Rover for the week.

46001 York-Birmingham NS (0645 Newcastle-Poole) Relief
47355 Birmingham NS-Bournemouth (0645 Newcastle-Poole) Relief
avoiding Reading

33104 Bournemouth-Wool (1730 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33102 Wool-Bournemouth (1933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (1933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
73120 Southampton-Bournemouth (2008 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)
33103 Bournemouth-Branksome (2030 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33105 Branksome-Bournemouth (2144 Weymouth-Bournemouth)

Sunday 22nd July 1979

The second overnight of my 1979 ALR and having had an uncomfortable night being pulled and pushed around Chester I headed to Bristol for some sleep. At Bristol I took the first train out to Pompey with 31421. I decided that a change of scenery was needed so I headed up to London and onto Edinburgh via the WCML.

85013 Birmingham NS-Crewe via Bescot (2130 Bristol TM-Glasgow C)
47447+(85013) Crewe-Wigan NW (2130 Bristol TM-Glasgow C)
via Chester, Chester Sth Jnc, reverse to Nth Jnc, forward to West Jnc
47471+(81010) Wigan NW-Crewe (1928 Inverness-Euston)
via Manchester Piccadilly & Styal
86010 Crewe-Birmingham NS via Bescot (2355 Glasgow-Bristol TM)
47194 Birmingham NS-Bristol TM (2355 Glasgow C-Bristol TM)
31421 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H (0959 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
33118 Portsmouth H-Eastleigh (1308 Portsmouth H-Reading)
3005 Eastleigh-Waterloo (1150 Weymouth-Waterloo)
87028 Euston-Preston (1545 Euston-Glasgow C)
87035 Preston-Carstairs (1705 Birmingham NS-Glasgow C)
47708 Carstairs-Edinburgh (1705 Birmingham NS-Glasgow C/Edinburgh)
47211 Edinburgh-Inverness (2255 Edinburgh-Inverness)
via Dunblane & Rose Street Curve

Tuesday 22nd July 1980

E50563+50582 York-Scarborough (1713 Bradford Exchange-Scarborough)
40118 Scarborough-York (1925 Scarborough-Wakefield Westgate)

Wednesday 22nd July 1981

I was unaware at the time but the Deltic availability this week and in particular this day was quite poor with only 8 in normal traffic, one was restricted to vacuum only, 3 were on exams and 5 were on repairs. After taking No.13 to Newcastle I headed south to pick up 0550 KX-Aberdeen but 47414 dropped onto it so I stopped off at York and went home briefly before heading south with No. 13 again.

31204 Leeds-Selby (0300 Leeds-Hull)
55013 Selby-Newcastle (0005 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
43058+43067 Newcastle-Darlington (0600 Newcastle-Middlesbrough)
E51219+DB975664 Darlington-York (0700 Darlington-York)
55008 York-Selby (0807 York-Kings Cross)
47414 Selby-York (0550 Kings Cross-Aberdeen)
55013 York-Kings Cross (0930 Durham-Kings Cross)
55015 Kings Cross-Doncaster (1403 Kings Cross-York)
55021 Doncaster-Kings Cross (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55017 Kings Cross-Stevenage (2015 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
312704 Stevenage-Kings Cross (2025 Royston-Kings Cross)
 

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@Sultan1056 I notice you mention on two occasions in July 1981 the existence of an 0930 Durham - Kings Cross. Although I am strictly from the Beazer Homes League of bashers, I can't remember Durham ever having services that started there for Kings Cross. Were they summer additionals or something?
 

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The train was the 1047 York-KX starting back from Durham and worked on several days of the week during the summer. The stock would have come ECS from Heaton missing Newcastle therefore allowing Durham passengers first dibs at a seat.
 

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Thursday 22nd July 1999

Another night doing the dreaded 'Down for the Up' leap on the Sleepers, then straight into work. The 'Night Riviera' was not scheduled to call at Bristol but it was booked a crew change and often the guard would release the doors. If they didn't, you would have to bail through the guard's door.

47830 London Paddington to Bristol TM (1C00 2345 London Paddington - Penzance)
47832 Bristol TM to London Paddington (1A03 2210 Penzance - London Paddington)
47814 London Paddington to Oxford (1M02 0600 London Paddington - Manchester Piccadilly)

47843 Oxford to Leamington Spa (1M81 1818 Bournemouth - Manchester Piccadilly)
47627 Leamington Spa to London Paddington (1V99 1915 Manchester Piccadilly - London Paddington)
 

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Sunday 23rd July 1978

EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (1000 Bournemouth-Waterloo)
73130 Southampton-Bournemouth (0936 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)
EMU Bournemouth-Eastleigh (1253 Weymouth-Waterloo)
33112 Eastleigh-Winchester (1508 Portsmouth H-Reading)
33109 Winchester-Shawford (1559 Reading-Portsmouth H)
33105 Shawford-Basingstoke (1608 Portsmouth H-Reading)
33112 Basingstoke-Shawford (1659 Reading-Portsmouth H)
33102 Shawford-Winchester (1708 Portsmouth H-Reading)
EMU Winchester-Bournemouth (1730 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33118 Bournemouth-Branksome (1730 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33107 Branksome-Bournemouth (1833 Weymouth-Waterloo)
EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (1833 Weymouth-Waterloo)
31419 Southampton C-Woolston (1815 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
DEMU Woolston-Southampton C (1958 Portsmouth H-Southampton C)
73120 Southampton C-Bournemouth (2008 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)

Monday 23rd July 1979

Having endured a Duff on the overnight from Edinburgh it was good to get onto the Achnasheen bash with guaranteed 26 action. Heading back to Perth I had to quickly retrace my steps between Pitlochry and Dalwhinnie when a pair of 26s were turned out on a Glasgow-Inverness service.

26035 Inverness-Dingwall (0615 Inverness-Wick)
26037 Dingwall-Achnasheen (0705 Inverness-Kyle of Lochalsh)
26041 Achnasheen-Dingwall (0700 Kyle of Lochalsh-Inverness)
26023 Dingwall-Inverness (0530 Wick-Inverness)
47550 Inverness-Pitlochry (1035 Inverness-Euston)
26026+26038 Pitlochry-Dalwhinnie (1035 Glasgow QS-Inverness)
47270 Dalwhinnie-Perth (1240 Inverness-Edinburgh)
26011 Perth-Larbert (1557 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
SC50260+51231 Larbert-Edinburgh (1707 Dunblane-Edinburgh)
47419 Edinburgh-York via Carlisle (1825 Edinburgh-York)

Wednesday 23rd July 1980

47455 York-Leeds (1515 Edinburgh-Liverpool LS)
E51815+51843 Leeds-Bradford Exchange (1935 Leeds-Bradford Exchange)
E50624 Bradford Exchange-Leeds (2000 Bradford Exchange-Leeds)
E50294+52093 Leeds-Cross Gates (2114 Leeds-Hull)
31188 Cross Gates-Leeds (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E50137+50276+50645+51299+51524 Leeds-York (2200 Leeds-York)

Thursday 23rd July 1981

55022 Kings Cross-Newcastle (0005 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
55015 Newcastle-Edinburgh (0705 Newcastle-Edinburgh)
55021 Edinburgh-Darlington (0950 Edinburgh-Plymouth)
55017 Darlington-York (0910 Dundee-Kings Cross)
55021 York-Dunbar (0736 Plymouth-Edinburgh)
40068 Dunbar-Berwick (1729 Edinburgh-Newcastle)
55004 Berwick-Edinburgh (1553 Carlisle-Edinburgh)
55004 Edinburgh-Peterborough (2225 Edinburgh-Kings Cross) via Abbeyhill Jnc
 

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Slightly OT but a poser for the wise readers here:
1983, I think it was during summer timetable, my young self photograped 50015 Valiant passing rapidly through Eastleigh heading a rake of typical Waterloo-Exeter Mk2 non a/c stock.
However... I have no idea what service it was. Any insight, nearly 40 years on?
 

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Slightly OT but a poser for the wise readers here:
1983, I think it was during summer timetable, my young self photograped 50015 Valiant passing rapidly through Eastleigh heading a rake of typical Waterloo-Exeter Mk2 non a/c stock.
However... I have no idea what service it was. Any insight, nearly 40 years on?
I'm afraid the photo hasn't been attached again! However, given the description, I suspect that it may have been a diverted Waterloo-Salisbury or Exeter service running via Soutrhampton due to engineering works. Was it a Sunday?
 

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I'm afraid the photo hasn't been attached again! However, given the description, I suspect that it may have been a diverted Waterloo-Salisbury or Exeter service running via Soutrhampton due to engineering works. Was it a Sunday?
Ah - thanks - a diverted WoE hadn't crossed my mind.

The photo was a 110 format - the print (and negative) have been lost many years. :)
I suspect it was a Saturday or Sunday. We lived near Milton Keynes, so visiting would have occurred on a non working day.
My early-teen self had been taken there by parents, to stop me moaning about the 4 hour drive to see family friends! I do recall the photo had withdrawn 4-SUB units lined up adjacent to the station.
 

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Saturday 21st January 1978

BR Farewell Class 44 Railtour

This BR arranged railtour was a bit premature, as the last 44s were not withdrawn until the end of 1980. Maybe it was the last occasion they were used on a railtour.

It was a freezing cold morning when we left Nottingham for Chester behind no heat 44009. The 12 coach train had been pre-heated by the loco on the empty stock move, but things soon changed. After departure nearly every window on the train seemed to be open, with heads out and cold air flowing in.

44009 08:15 Nottingham-Barnsley
44009+56005 (banking) Barnsley-Dodworth
44009 Dodworth-Crewe

The route taken from Nottingham to Crewe was (via Chesterfield-Darnall-Tinsley-Wath-Barnsley-Dodworth-Pennistone-Woodhead-Guide Bridge-Stockport)

44009 came off at Crewe to be replaced by 44008+24133. The 24/1 was added for train heat but I can’t remember how effective it was. It must have been one of the few surviving Class 24s still running with a working boiler.

44008+24133 Crewe-Chester

There was over an hour to kill at Chester, so we left the station for some refreshments. When we returned 24133 had been detached, and no heat 44008 took us back to Nottingham.

44008 Chester-Nottingham (via Shrewsbury-Wolverhampton-Walsall-Lichfield City-Burton-Sheet Stores Jn-Nottingham).
hi

im looking for gen on Saturday 21 January 1978

spotting notes lost my book on the day

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parkinsonchristopher@ymail.com
 

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Ah - thanks - a diverted WoE hadn't crossed my mind.

The photo was a 110 format - the print (and negative) have been lost many years. :)
I suspect it was a Saturday or Sunday. We lived near Milton Keynes, so visiting would have occurred on a non working day.
My early-teen self had been taken there by parents, to stop me moaning about the 4 hour drive to see family friends! I do recall the photo had withdrawn 4-SUB units lined up adjacent to the station.

If it was a Sunday, almost certainly a diverted WoE. A semi-regular occurrence.
 

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Saturday 24th July 1976

DMU York-Leeds (0703 Scarborough-Leeds)
DMU Leeds-Stalybridge (0740 Hull-Liverpool LS)
DMU Stalybridge-Stockport (0952 Stalybridge-Stockport)
EMU Stockport-Crewe (1020 Altrincham-Crewe)
85009 Crewe-Manchester Pic (0845 Newquay-Manchester Pic)
DMU Manchester Vic-Leeds (1810 Liverpool LS-Hull)
DMU Leeds-York (2020 Leeds-York)

Monday 24th July 1978

33104 Bournemouth-Holton Heath (0630 Bournemouth-Weymouth)
33111 Holton Heath-Bournemouth (0615 Weymouth-Waterloo)
EMU Bournemouth-Waterloo (0838 Weymouth-Waterloo)
EMU Waterloo East-Folkestone C (1130 Charing Cross-Margate)
EMU Folkestone C-Ashford (1030 Ramsgate-Charing Cross)
EMU Ashford-Waterloo East (1312 Margate-Charing Cross)
EMU Waterloo-Bournemouth (1530 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33111 Bournemouth-Branksome (1530 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33118 Branksome-Bournemouth (1633 Weymouth-Waterloo)

Tuesday 24th July 1979

I came out to cover the 1215 York-KX but to my pleasure Deltic 14 arrived hauling a full and standing 1030 Newcastle-KX (booked for an HST). York passengers were advised not to board the train until an extra coach was attached to the rear, something that isn’t easy to do today. After having a non stop run between Doncaster and KX I headed over to London Bridge to cover the class 33s on the East Grinstead commuter services.
During this timetable in addition to the five class 33s in action there were also two LB-Brighton services booked for 73s, the only problem was that it wasn’t possible to cover all seven services. Today I took two 33s and two 73s before going onto Waterloo and increase my tally to three each. Back to KX for a Deltic overnight to Scotland.

55014 York-Kings Cross (1030 Newcastle-Kings Cross)
5656+5665+5666 London Bridge-East Croydon (1527 London Bridge-Tattenham Corner)
33038 East Croydon-South Croydon (1557 East Croydon-East Grinstead)
5035+5662+5663 South Croydon-London Bridge (1533 Tattenham Corner-London Bridge)
73101 London Bridge-East Croydon (1655 London Bridge-Brighton)
5030+5031 East Croydon-London Bridge (1712 East Croydon-London Bridge)
73122 London Bridge-East Croydon (1755 London Bridge-Brighton)
33209 East Croydon-Saunderstead (1821 London Bridge-East Grinstead)
1109+1303 Saunderstead-East Croydon (1821 East Grinstead-Victoria)
5030+5667 East Croydon-Waterloo East (1833 Tattenham Corner-Charing Cross)
73112 Waterloo-Basingstoke (2008 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)
33011 Basingstoke-Waterloo (1755 Exeter St Davids - Waterloo)
55013 Kings Cross-Edinburgh via Carlisle (2230 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)

Thursday 24th July 1980

55002 York-Selby (1955 York-Kings Cross)
31319 Selby-Leeds (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E50169+50267+50584+50573 Leeds-York (2200 Leeds-York)

Friday 24th July 1981

Having travelled overnight on the 2225 Edinburgh-KX I left the train at Peterborough and caught the early morning service across to Cambridge. I went in the hope of picking up a non-boilered 37 into Liverpool Street. I was rewarded with 37060 on the first service into the capital. I then resumed my chase for more Deltics.

E50378+51478 Peterborough-Cambridge (0538 Peterborough-Cambridge)
37060 Cambridge-Liverpool St (0717 Cambridge-Liverpool St)
313006+313011 Moorgate-Finsbury Park (0913 Moorgate-Hertford N)
312725 Finsbury Park-Kings Cross (0836 Royston-Kings Cross)
55009 Kings Cross-Grantham (0940 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
55018 Grantham-Kings Cross (0934 Hull-Kings Cross)
55022 Kings Cross-York (1403 Kings Cross-York)
55022 York-Kings Cross (1814 York-Kings Cross)
 
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Tuesday 25th July 1978

33118 Bournemouth-Holton Heath (0630 Bournemouth-Weymouth)
33105 Holton Heath-Bournemouth (0615 Weymouth-Waterloo)
33106 Bournemouth-Branksome (0830 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33105 Branksome-Bournemouth (0933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (0933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
31420 Southampton C-Salisbury (1042 Portsmouth H-Bristol TM)
33007 Salisbury-Basingstoke (1010 Exeter St Davids-Waterloo)
47432 Basingstoke-Reading (1139 Poole-Newcastle)
50010 Reading-Paddington (0838 Penzance-Paddington)
EMU Waterloo-Bournemouth (1530 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33105 Bournemouth-Branksome (1530 Waterloo-Weymouth)
EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (1900 Bournemouth-Waterloo)
31423 Southampton C-Salisbury (1856 Portsmouth H-Bristol TM)
31424 Salisbury-Southampton C (1915 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
73120 Southampton C-Bournemouth (2008 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)

Wednesday 25th July 1979

A very productive day for me today including two non-boilered 27s, admittedly 27027 was only acting as a banking engine. 26003 which at the time was very rare on a passenger service normally being found working off Millerhill on MGR trains.

40161 Edinburgh-Perth (0950 Edinburgh-Inverness)
40164 Perth-Stirling (0935 Aberdeen-Glasgow QS)
27028 Stirling-Larbert (1138 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
26010 Larbert-Stirling (1244 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
27020 Stirling-Larbert (1338 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
26026 Larbert-Stirling (1444 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
47053 Stirling-Glasgow QS (1349 Aberdeen-Glasgow QS)
27036 Glasgow QS-Larbert (1654 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
27027 Glasgow QS-Cowlairs Banking Locomotive (1654 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
SC50269+51746 Larbert-Edinburgh (1707 Dunblane-Edinburgh)
47015 Edinburgh-Kirkcaldy (1900 Edinburgh-Aberdeen)
40187 Kirkcaldy-Edinburgh (1820 Aberdeen-Edinburgh)
25066 Edinburgh-Haymarket (2140 Edinburgh-Carstairs)
26003 Haymarket-Edinburgh (1805 Birmingham NS-Edinburgh)
40060 Edinburgh-Carstairs (2345 Edinburgh-Bristol TM)

Friday 25th July 1980

55010 York-Selby (1955 York-Kings Cross)
31238 Selby-Leeds (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E50267+50584 Leeds-York (2200 Leeds-York)

Saturday 25th July 1981

I was hoping that Deltic 22 would stick to its diagram by working the 0100 KX-Newcastle sleeper service. Unfortunately it was held back for a daytime relief to Edinburgh so I went over to Waterloo to fill in some time. I travelled down to Bournemouth where I was greeted by the sight of an ex-works 73003 waiting to take over the Channel Islands Boat Train. If the train kept to time I would be able to get over to Kings Cross for the 0940 to Edinburgh. I can’t remember why the train was late, maybe it was the 80mph speed restriction of the 73, but I got to Kings Cross to see the back of the 0940 to Edinburgh disappearing into Gas Works Tunnel. Having set my mind on going to Edinburgh I decided to head down the WCML. This was quite fortunate because I unexpectedly picked up a required 40 between Carstairs and Edinburgh.

73107 Waterloo-Eastleigh (0245 Waterloo-Bournemouth)
33110 Eastleigh-Bournemouth (0245 Waterloo-Bournemouth)
73003 Bournemouth-Waterloo (0600 Weymouth Quay-Waterloo)
86311 Euston-Carlisle (1145 Euston-Glasgow C)
85011 Carlisle-Carstairs (1345 Liverpool LS-Glasgow C)
40169 Carstairs-Edinburgh (1435 Blackpool N-Edinburgh)
55022 Edinburgh-Kings Cross (2045 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
via Hertford N
 

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Wednesday 26th July 1978

33111 Bournemouth-Eastleigh (2238 Weymouth-Waterloo)
73136 Eastleigh-Woking (2238 Weymouth-Waterloo)
73130 Woking-Bournemouth (0245 Waterloo-Bournemouth)
47318 Bournemouth-Southampton C (0850 Weymouth-Leeds)
73114 Southampton-Bournemouth (0936 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)
47267 Bournemouth-Southampton C (1139 Poole-Newcastle)
EMU Southampton C-Bournemouth (1130 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33119 Bournemouth-Weymouth (1130 Waterloo-Weymouth)
DMU Weymouth-Dorchester West (1430 Weymouth-Westbury)
47244 Dorchester South-Weymouth (0812 Leeds-Weymouth)
33118 Weymouth-Bournemouth (1533 Weymouth-Waterloo)
33107 Bournemouth-Branksome (1730 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33104 Branksome-Bournemouth (1933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (1933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
73123 Southampton C-Bournemouth (2008 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)

Thursday 26th July 1979

I was heading up to London so at Carlisle I exchanged 85011 for 85022 and settled into an empty compartment where I quickly crashed out asleep. I woke a few hours later realising that I was now travelling in the opposite direction. I opened the blind to reveal brilliant sunshine and I quickly noticed the lack of overhead electrification masts. Where was I and what was hauling the train? I soon worked out that I was on the Midland Mainline somewhere north of Leicester and was now being hauled by an unidentified Duff. The train continued down the MML before branching off at Brent Junction. When it reached Acton Wells Junction the Duff was detached and a 25 was attached to the rear of the train before it hauled the very late running train into Euston. Apparently the WCML was closed south of Crewe because of a derailment.

85011 Carstairs-Carlisle (2345 Edinburgh-Bristol TM)
85022 Carlisle-Crewe (2220 Perth-Euston)
47xxx Crewe-Acton Wells Jcn (2220 Perth-Euston)
via Stoke, Derby, run round, Leicester & Brent Jnc
25266 Acton Wells Jcn-Euston (2220 Perth-Euston)
via Willesden Jnc
37047 Liverpool St-Bishops Stortford (1136 Liverpool St-Cambridge)
31193 Bishops Stortford-Cambridge (1205 Liverpool St-Cambridge)
37049 Cambridge-Ely (1205 Liverpool St-Kings Lynn)
E51297 Ely-March (1251 Cambridge-Peterborough)
31238 March-Peterborough (1317 Norwich-Birmingham NS)
47523 Peterborough-York (1405 Kings Cross-York)
55015 York-Grantham (1956 York-Kings Cross)
47402 Grantham-Edinburgh via Carlisle (2015 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)

Saturday 26th July 1980

47549 York-Leeds (0710 York-Liverpool LS)
40192 Leeds-Manchester Vic (0752 Leeds-Llandudno)
40020 Manchester Vic-Leeds (0855 Blackpool N-Newcastle)
40017 Leeds-Huddersfield (0935 Newcastle-Blackpool N)
25203 Huddersfield-Leeds (0900 Llandudno-York)
47413 Leeds-Manchester Vic (1217 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
M50069+50099+50824+50906 Manchester Vic-Bolton (1545 Manchester Vic-Blackpool N)
40010 Bolton-Manchester Vic (1320 Glasgow C-Manchester Vic)
E50602+50634 Manchester Vic-Bolton (1720 Manchester Vic-Blackpool N)
40081 Bolton-Manchester Vic (1443 Edinburgh-Manchester Vic)
86227 Manchester Pic-Crewe (2330 Manchester Pic-Brighton)

Sunday 26th July 1981

55008 Kings Cross-York (0830 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
via Hertford N
55014 York-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55004 Grantham-Newark (1605 Kings Cross-York)
55013 Newark-Kings Cross (1457 Newcastle-Kings Cross)
55010 Kings Cross-Edinburgh (2240 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
 
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I was lucky enough to see all 46 Class 92 in service before they started to store them or send them abroad, My last one to see was 92028 at Ashford International on 6th April 2010. I made a special journey to Ashford as I had information of its movement at the time. Class 92 were rare in Liverpool but did make occasional forays to Speke Yard on test. One such loco was 92041 which I saw there on 30th November 2011. My only previous sighting of this loco had been at a Tinsley Depot Open Day.
 

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Saturday 27th July 1974

40148 York-Scarborough (0840 Wakefield Westgate-Scarborough)
47403 Scarborough-York (1715 Scarborough-York)

Thursday 27th July 1978

47244 Bournemouth-Southampton C (0850 Weymouth-Leeds)
73109 Southampton-Bournemouth (0936 Waterloo-Weymouth Quay)
47474 Bournemouth-Southampton C (1139 Poole-Newcastle)
DEMU Southampton C-Redbridge (1203 Portsmouth & Southsea-Salisbury )
31419 Redbridge-Woolston (1115 Bristol TM-Portsmouth & H)
31423 Woolston-Southampton C (1256 Portsmouth H-Bristol TM)
47329 Southampton C-Bournemouth (0812 Leeds-Weymouth)
33112 Bournemouth-Poole (0721 Liverpool LS-Poole)
33105 Poole-Wool (1330 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33105 Wool-Poole (1533 Weymouth-Waterloo)
47445 Poole-Bournemouth (1639 Poole-Liverpool LS)
EMU Bournemouth-Southampton C (1900 Bournemouth-Waterloo)
31416 Southampton C-Salisbury (1856 Portsmouth H-Bristol TM)
31420 Salisbury-Southampton C (1915 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
EMU Southampton C-Bournemouth (2030 Waterloo-Weymouth)

Friday 27th July 1979

ALR Day 7 out of 14 and another good day is keeping my red pen busy. The objective of the day was to reach Carlisle by the evening to cover the Fridays Only Blackpool-Stranraer. This was achieved by getting my one and only 40 out of Glasgow Central. IIRC it wasn’t too long after this that 40s were prohibited from Central. The Stranraer duly produced with 40069 hauling a virtually empty train barring the front coach full of bashers.

27103+27203 Edinburgh-Glasgow QS (0700 Edinburgh-Glasgow QS)
26019 Glasgow QS-Croy (0844 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
26026 Croy-Glasgow QS (0738 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
40158 Glasgow QS-Perth (1035 Glasgow QS-Inverness)
37237 Glasgow QS-Cowlairs Banking Locomotive (1035 Glasgow QS-Inverness)
26039+26040 Perth-Kirkcaldy (0935 Inverness-Edinburgh)
26032 Kirkcaldy-Perth (1247 Edinburgh-Perth)
27030 Perth-Dundee (1315 Glasgow QS-Aberdeen) Relief
40151 Dundee-Glasgow QS (1340 Aberdeen-Glasgow QS)
40171 Glasgow C-Carlisle via Kilmarnock (1730 Glasgow C-Carlisle)
40069 Carlisle-Stranraer H (1730 Blackpool N-Stranraer H)

Sunday 27th July 1980

I did the Preston-Crewe drags several times but this was the only time I got a class 40 on them.

85004 Crewe-Preston (2145 Euston-Inverness)
40111+(86326) Preston-Crewe (2350 Glasgow C-Bristol TM)
via Manchester Pic & Styal
47338+(86326) Crewe-Stafford (2350 Glasgow C-Bristol TM)
86326 Stafford-Birmingham NS (2350 Glasgow C-Bristol TM)
25187+25262 Birmingham NS-Wolverhampton (0845 Birmingham NS-Barmouth)
47346 Wolverhampton-Birmingham NS (0715 Manchester Pic-Brighton)
47166 Birmingham NS-Manchester Pic (0850 Paddington-Manchester Pic)
40182 Manchester Vic-Warrington BQ (1559 Manchester Vic-Bangor)
40012 Warrington BQ-Manchester Vic (1438 Holyhead-Manchester Vic)
47466 Manchester Vic-York (1805 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)

Monday 27th July 1981

Day 10 of my 1981 ALR and tiredness is definitely kicking in, travelling with Deltic 10 on the Edinburgh-Plymouth. I remember passing through Morpeth when I drifted off to sleep. The next thing I was aware of was travelling across King Edward Bridge, just south of Newcastle, not with a Deltic but with a Duff. I bailed out at Darlington for something more suitable. I’m not sure why 55010 was removed because it was back in traffic the following day. I decided that a change was needed so I headed off to Paddington.

55010 Edinburgh-Newcastle (0950 Edinburgh-Plymouth)
47565 Newcastle-Darlington (0950 Edinburgh-Plymouth)
55009 Darlington-Kings Cross (0910 Dundee-Kings Cross)
50038 Paddington-Westbury (1835 Paddington-Plymouth)
33010 Westbury-Trowbridge (1810 Portsmouth H-Bristol TM)
33021 Trowbridge-Warminster (2020 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
33019 Warminster-Bath (2020 Portsmouth H-Cardiff C)
43020+43021 Bath-Bristol TM (2145 Paddington-Bristol TM)
 

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Saturday 27th July 1963

V2 60805 09:00 Newcastle-Carlisle (SO 09:00 Newcastle-Blackpool)
V2 60964 17:00 Carlisle-Newcastle (SO 13:40 Stranraer-Newcastle)

The Blackpool train went forward behind a Jubilee, and the Stranraer to Newcastle was hauled into Carlisle behind a Clan.
 

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Saturday 27th July 1963

V2 60805 09:00 Newcastle-Carlisle (SO 09:00 Newcastle-Blackpool)
V2 60964 17:00 Carlisle-Newcastle (SO 13:40 Stranraer-Newcastle)

The Blackpool train went forward behind a Jubilee, and the Stranraer to Newcastle was hauled into Carlisle behind a Clan.
Wonderful memories! I remember as a young child being hauled by a V2 from Stockton to York....but sadly neither I nor my mother recorded the number.
 

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Friday 28th July 1978

47293 Bournemouth-Basingstoke (0850 Weymouth-Leeds)
33023 Basingstoke-Andover (1100 Waterloo-Exeter St Davids)
33007 Andover-Basingstoke (1010 Exeter St Davids-Waterloo)
33024 Basingstoke-Andover (1300 Waterloo-Exeter St Davids)
33006 Andover-Basingstoke (1228 Exeter St Davids-Waterloo)
EMU Basingstoke-Bournemouth (1446 Waterloo-Bournemouth)
33104 Bournemouth-Wareham (1730 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33112 Wareham-Bournemouth (1933 Weymouth-Waterloo)
33112 Bournemouth-Branksome (1930 Waterloo-Weymouth)
33103 Branksome-Bournemouth (2038 Weymouth-Bournemouth)

Saturday 28th July 1979

I returned to Carlisle with 40069 getting very little sleep. My plan was to cover the Glasgow-Scarborough service and because it was Glasgow Fair Fortnight there would be relief services too. I took the first available train out of Carlisle to Kilmarnock just so I could get some rest. Somehow I managed to wake myself and get off there before returning back to Carlisle with 40083. Because of the Penmanshiel Tunnel collapse the Glasgow-Scarborough service was diverted via Carlisle and then Newcastle. It’s relief train worked by 40101, was however routed over the S&C to Leeds and York. I joined the train along with another six or seven bashers and headed south. The ideal move would be to take the train to York where the northbound reverse services could possibly be used. The only problem was that the relief service wasn’t booked to stop at York other than a crew change. At Leeds we decided to risk taking the train to York. To our disappointment it was routed through the middle road where it came to a stand. I don’t remember who it was but one of us decided to bail out and so like sheep most of us followed, quickly leaping up onto the platform. This had however not gone unnoticed and the Station Supervisor stormed up the platform to give us all an earful! Fortunately for me most of his anger was directed at just one person, TK a Train Guard. Our group quickly dispersed with only myself and TK sticking together. Wondering what would be the best move we wandered down to the south end of platform 9 (now 5) to watch 40047 bring in a Scarborough-Glasgow relief service. This too was routed in the middle road so obviously no use to us. As 40047 busied itself running around the train it’s guard who knew TK shouted across for a little chat. As the conversation progressed he asked if we wanted to join the train. Normally we wouldn’t have hesitated to take up this offer but we didn’t want a repeat of what had gone on only a short while earlier. We both looked back up to the central part of the station, all seemed fairly quiet with no visible sign of staff and in particular the Supervisor. We quickly dropped down onto the track and into the train; destination Edinburgh? Not quite, when the train arrived into Newcastle we were told that the train would be going to Berwick where passengers would be bussed to Edinburgh. This was no good to us so we left 40047 here. Apparently there had been a derailment somewhere on the WCML, the details of the actual problem were not known. Soon afterwards 40148 arrived with the scheduled Scarborough-Glasgow and to our pleasure we were told that it would be routed via Carlisle. Destination Edinburgh was back on!

40069 Stranraer H-Carlisle (0120 Stranraer H-Blackpool N)
47432 Carlisle-Kilmarnock (0620 Carlisle-Glasgow C)
40083 Kilmarnock-Carlisle (0830 Glasgow C-Blackpool N)
40101 Carlisle-York via Settle (0818 Glasgow QS-Scarborough) Relief
40047 York-Newcastle (1445 Scarborough-Berwick) Relief
40148 Newcastle-Edinburgh via Carlisle (1515 Scarborough-Glasgow QS)
26010+26034 Edinburgh-Carstairs (2345 Edinburgh-Bristol TM)

Monday 28th July 1980

55015 York-Doncaster (1955 York-Kings Cross)
43084+43118 Doncaster-York (1900 Kings Cross-Newcastle)

Tuesday 28th July 1981

A favourite train of mine the 0124 Bristol-Milford Haven with three different 37s making an appearance. I decided to hang around for the Fishguard-Paddington service and although a Duff, it was routed over the Swansea District Line, a first for me.

37190 Bristol TM-Swansea (0124 Bristol TM-Milford H)
37180 Swansea-Carmarthen (0124 Bristol TM-Milford H)
37191 Carmarthen-Milford H (0124 Bristol TM-Milford H)
37191 Milford H-Swansea (0730 Milford H-Swansea)
37190 Swansea-Whitland J (1115 Swansea-Milford H)
47056 Whitland J-Cardiff C (1315 Fishguard H-Paddington)
via Swansea District Line
33004 Cardiff C-Hereford (1710 Cardiff C-Crewe)
50015 Hereford-Paddington (1850 Hereford-Paddington)
 

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Am I the only person who hasn't baled in the centre road at York? :D
 

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