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Avanti's Hidden 1st Class Gems

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voyagerdude220

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I have had mine checked twice recently! Only on the weekend however.
By catering staff or the Train Manager?

I guess at weekends on Pendolinos the catering person only has coach K to deal with so has much more time to check tickets if they wanted to and provide catering.
 
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By catering staff or the Train Manager?

I guess at weekends on Pendolinos the catering person only has coach K to deal with so has much more time to check tickets if they wanted to and provide catering.
Catering staff, quite knows what they’d do if someone presented them with a Smartcard!
 

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Just booked Crewe - Holyhead and back on a new Evero train which is £21.75 each way with a railcard. Very good value, plus access to the Crewe lounge on both journeys (Not sure how many people actually realised, but Avanti changed its lounge policy back to pre-covid so now you can visit the lounge after travelling).

Problem is, I have a 2 hour turnaround in Holyhead and there's nothing to do there!


I'm trying to hit 21+ Avanti journeys this year so I can get the Club Avanti Platinum tier, doing as many journeys on cheap routes like Crewe-Carlisle for £6.25 or Crewe-Glasgow for £8.55 - both prices with railcards.

Then I'll do London-Glasgow & back with the free tickets, making sure to use the Euston and Glasgow lounges as much as possible. Plus they give you an extra one-time lounge pass, which again, I will be using at Euston of course.
 

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Have Avanti started getting the catering staff in First Class to check tickets?
I would have thought they'd ask to see a ticket before doling out free food and drink, otherwise it'd be a free for all!!!

Though why SBB didn't on my recent Cologne to Bremen run on EC8 is a mystery......(see the "How far have you travelled without being asked to show a ticket?" thread).
 

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I would have thought they'd ask to see a ticket before doling out free food and drink, otherwise it'd be a free for all!!!
This has never been the case, even back under Virgin.
The CSA’s job was to serve the passengers and leave revenue duties to the TM. I don’t think this has officially changed.
 

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This has never been the case, even back under Virgin.
The CSA’s job was to serve the passengers and leave revenue duties to the TM. I don’t think this has officially changed.

Never been asked by any first class catering staff on any TOC for a ticket except for recent journeys on Crosscountry, where I’ve always been asked before they give me anything.
 

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I have been asked by catering staff to show my ticket in First Class on Cross Country and East Midlands Railway, but never on Virgin/Avanti (or GWR and LNER).
Resulting sometimes in seeing passengers complete their journey, and enjoy the hospitality, without ever having had their ticket checked!
 

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Just shows that the only drinks which should be given away in first class should be limited to soft drinks, water or hot drinks. If anybody wants booze they have to buy it.
Why?

The cheap fare in this post is still £2.10 more expensive than standard class. At corporate bulk buy rates a miniature Grouse won’t cost anywhere near £2.10, it won’t even cost you that in Costco.
 

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This has never been the case, even back under Virgin.
The CSA’s job was to serve the passengers and leave revenue duties to the TM. I don’t think this has officially changed.
I had a few Avanti journeys on my Britrail pass back in January, and each time they had a quick skeet at my ticket before serving me. Seems sensible to me, better to sort out any “confusion” sooner rather than later, especially now Avanti has Standard Premium.
 

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Why?

The cheap fare in this post is still £2.10 more expensive than standard class. At corporate bulk buy rates a miniature Grouse won’t cost anywhere near £2.10, it won’t even cost you that in Costco.

It certainly tastes pretty cheap - not quite Talisker or Glenfiddich or even the JW Black Label that BA dish out onboard in Club.
 

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Good luck to anyone able to partake. We all love a bargain.

Sorry to be that party pooper, but where refreshments are being given-out – notably alcohol – I don’t think the fare, with or without railcard, should be less than the retail price of the goods concerned. In fact, it should be substantially more – you’re getting first class travel, as well.

I might as well make myself really unpopular and state my view that where there’s a catering offer including lounge access, a £25 floor should apply to first class fares, net of any railcard discount.

The railway is supported by the taxpayer, and the optics are important – I don’t mean the ones spirits are drawn from.

If the argument is there are loads of empty first-class seats to be filled at any price, then it sounds as though there is too much first-class provision.

Do me a favour !! , more often than not the first class service does not reflect the first class price anymore especially on Avanti

Food and drinks are no longer complimentary as there is standard premium ( first class without food and drink ) and then first class at a higher price

I don’t begrudge the OP bagging a bargain like he /she did , let’s face it more often than not first class service is a let down and passengers are ripped off

When you say the value of goods given shouldn’t exceed the fare paid or along those lines . What about the majority who pay £100 plus and get goods that don’t come close to the price of the ticket ? Should the railway compensate them ? It works both ways but fortunately the kind of bargain that the OP received is rare very rare

I pay for a first class return Preston - Glasgow I don’t think I get my moneys worth from the first class hosts but it is what it is. The price of my ticket has shot up by 50% in the last 12 month's

Nice to know there are generous hosts around , the passenger didn’t ask for what they received they were offered it this time they got a great bargain next time they do the same journey they might not get offered anything , swings and roundabouts
 
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A minor issue with Avanti 1st is that although hot drinks are typically offered quickly, the snack tray comes round much later or - quite often - not at all. I like a biscuit with my coffee! I've taken to asking for a biscuit when they take my coffee order but I feel slightly as if I'm "being a nuisance".

IMHO Biscuits should always be offered with tea and coffee.
 
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