Avanti Service failed to call at LPY (20/05)

[saismee]

can't remember whether it was G to YY or YY to R.

Did you mean G to Y?

 

[Merle Haggard]

Did you mean G to Y?

Sorry, yes you are correct.

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To amplify; although the signals reduced by two steps it was one step at a time, so the last green went G > YY and, after a pause as the train in front set back, YY > Y. as it was approached (if there was long visibility),- and all the other signals visible in the distance also stepped down. which understandably alarmed the driver of the following train. Stretches of the line South of Hanslope allow early sighting of signal aspects.

As an aside, the original 4 aspect signals on the line when cleared from R to G - after, for instance, a junction being cleared by another train in the opposite direction - went briefly but visibly R > Y > YY > G, I don't think this happens now. Presumably mechanical control involved

 

[dk1]

Obviously not related to this incident but due to unforeseen unit swaps today, some services are not calling at South Parkway.

 

[8J]

Obviously not related to this incident but due to unforeseen unit swaps today, some services are not calling at South Parkway.

Indeed. I believe an 807 suffered some significant damage after striking a couple of deer near Apsley which caused delays and 390s being stepped up to work on 807 diagrams.

 

[Horizon22]

It is possible for a train to set back after an overrun. There are some conditions that must be met but if they are then it’s usually done.

Some TOCs have "forward only" policies.

 

[sharpener]

Some TOCs have "forward only" policies.

Is there any justification for the differences and are they going to be rationalised after re-nationalisation? How is this going to be done in practice?

 

[Horizon22]

Is there any justification for the differences and are they going to be rationalised after re-nationalisation? How is this going to be done in practice?

Safety risk and tolerance I guess.

And how is what exactly going to be "done in practice"? A forward-only policy or the rationalisation? Because I am not certain the latter will happen (alongside a great many other things).

 

[jamesst]

Some TOCs have "forward only" policies.

Yeah, merseyrail does now

 

[RichardAsh1981]

Yeah, merseyrail does now

That would be seriously inconvenient if they repeated one of the two overshoots I have experienced, which was Capenhurst (trainee driver with a sudden rain shower on the long 70 mph straight), because the next journey of that train back from Chester isn't booked to stop at Capenhurst. That time on a 507/508 they called signaller and backed it up from the rear cab.

The other was Bromborough in fog (again a dead straight, and the stations don't line up with signals), and just let on/off through the guards door as the rear of the train was platformed.

 

[Bevan Price]

Half of them don't. The 807 operated slower service does, the Pendolino operated faster service doesn't.

RTT shows 807.008 was the unit involved.