I think there would be huge backlash if they did try and enforce it given that there is a supply and skills shortage.
It was stupidly rushed. I don't believe any consultation was had on the matter either. Just another load of tosh drempt up by numpty civil servants who haven't lived a day in the real world.
Another issue with Compass Bus is that they have set the volume of the announcements so low that you can barely hear a word. It is an issue on all of their E200MMC buses. What is the point of announcements when you can not hear anything.
This is a problem with a number of operators. Guernsey suffers from low volume as well.
sorry
You can edit your original post by the way, instead of sending multiple different posts
Sadly as we have learnt with Bus Open Data over the past 5 years, it doesn't matter what the regulations state, operators do what they want. And sadly we have such a poor regulatory system and such a culture of passing the buck between DFT, DVSA and OTC, that essentially very few breaches of regulations, actually get investigated and relevant people punished.
Please, please, please, report these things to local authorities. They have the powers to fix NaPTAN. Many LAs are trying to skirt around the fact it's a statutory obligation of the LA (same as social care and collecting waste) and they will keep avoiding it unless people keep on at them.
No they don't (but to some extent would have been better if they had); indeed, there is no reference to NaPTAN in the entire Statutory Instrument. The only definition of a Stopping Place is "a place at which prospective passengers are taken up or passengers are set down" - there is no instruction as to how it should be described.
Interesting - I must admit to not having read the SI in full, but the page regarding PSVAIR on the DfT website on GOV.UK at https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ormation-onboard-local-bus-and-coach-services says…
I do - I work with a few different LA’s who are fantastic at maintaining their NaPTAN databases, and there have been lots of changes made - from stop name revisions to brand new stops implemented - as a result of my requests over the last 12 months.
Its quite common for details like this to be set out in Guidance rather than a Statutory Instrument. If NaPTAN turned into something else its easier to edit guidance than change an SI!
In my experience, it usually works fine on Cardiff Bus. Taking a bus out of service because the system is faulty would be silly. Everyone loses. Unlike a train, it's quite easy for a bus driver to offer assistance to a blind person, or anyone for that matter. I've sometimes seen passengers ask the driver the best stop for a particular street, and the driver will tell them when the bus has arrived at that stop.
That applies to so many things. I could write a list of things that I have complained to Cardiff Council about for years that they have not fixed. Why should they care? They get my Council tax payments whether they do a good job or a terrible job. I've mostly given up reporting things now. If it's something that I can sort out myself, e.g. cutting back vegetation, I just get on with it.
Depends on the passenger capacity of the minibus. If it can carry less than seventeen passengers, the regs don't apply. (Note that this a different threshold to PSV Accessibility Regulations, which exclude buses for 22 passengers or fewer).
These have a capacity of 23 according to the panel on the inside
If it's anything like open data, Local authorities wash their hands with it and say it's a DFT/Traffic Commissioner/DVSA issue and not something they care for enforcing. The only exception to that is where the authority has specified NSAs in the tender specification. Though my many dealings with local authorities have tended to come back with them not caring about enforcing their own tender specs or how their tenders are operated because they are too scared of holding operators accountable.
Really glad to hear that. I'm having less luck sadly.
Which in itself is daft. I know we are in the midst of a 'lack of common sense' crisis amongst our well paid, and definitely highly skilled civil servants and politicians. There is now this idiotic situation whereby a 17 seater bus has to have announcements and next stop displays, but doesn't need a ramp or accessible seating. Surely it wouldn't have taken too many braincells to realise that consistent regulations between PSVAR and PSVAIR would greatly improve compliance and understanding with the rules. And also ensure consistency around accessibility regulations.
I noticed this with 11690 when I rode on it last week but thought it was just probably just a issue with just this bus as when I rode 11689 this weekend it was working fine.
Pretty much only the 250 and 350 which aren't even Hull routes, even the 103 to Kirton in Lindsey & Lincoln was doing it today. I'd say complain to them. The more it's addressed the better done.
The requirements also apply to Scotland as well as England, same as the disability access requirements 10 years ago.
